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Pineapple Chunk!

FE

I am really thinking about getting that PC. What do you think I could get for yields growing it as big as I grow mine? Did it have a unique taste? How long did the high last? I am looking for something that is fun and generous that last a while. Do you think the PC fits that?

Ok I'll do my best to answer....



The PC smacks you right in the face immediately when smoking. I hardly take 4-5 hits and have immediate face warmth and lose track time...what i was doing etc real fast.. numbs that short term memory real good. I forget to finish the bong...I am no novice smoker as I am approaching 30 years now. 15-20 minutes as it settles it numbs and I get very relaxed... If i am not careful I can easily take a nap. That being said it isn't forcing one.. If i motivate then it is fine.. but if i don't I can get that one hour cat nap real fast before i even realize it.

Fast hitting then settles into a little mellow... can be couch lock but if done correctly doesn't have to be.

Taste is really nice and fruity now. the first few hits burning the outer layers of oils is hard very hard to describe but .. I'll try.. I can't say it tastes of pineapple directly. It is a sweet immediate taste of tropical melony with a great smooth taste on exhale. It can expand or tickle the lungs and make big coughs happen. If you need that mind numbing hit before you walk out the door then you can be still coughing ten minutes later if you blast your self.. lol and you will be knowing you did it.

Half smoked bowls smell nice.. sounds funny but I like half burnt weed smell and it has a good one.. not much else to say there...

Yield .. i got 5.5 zips on one plant... with a little extra room could have been 8-9 easily... I used all the space and had a lot of cola's so it was a decent Yield for the space investment if that makes sense to you. Scrog may have given me some more but the space is still the space and i feel if you use it all effectively, scrog or no scrog should be similar. It was a pretty clean run and the plant grew very hearty. No bugs or serious issue's. So yield on my strain was probably considered good for a novice.

PC grows tall so keep that in mind. But i kept it at 6 inches or less from LEDs and had tiny bleaching but those buds smoke fine as the rest ... I think they are neat..

So I guess that summarizes it some what better. I know you have read about it in my stuff all along so this should help add to that.

I would say this... If i didn't have it yes I would consider getting it to try. I have even considered another strain of it from a better seed bank. But my list is long again in that area and I have atleast 20 beans tucked away from the last order of all the strain i am running now. I haven't even made it through one run of each but getting there...

I think I like it so far better than WW but too early on that really. tastes totally better... Have not tried a TW bud yet...LOL plenty right over there next to me .. Stoned... I'll get to it... lol


Feel free to ask me more questions if you have them or I missed something....


:peace:

FE
 
Just in time for frosty Nuggs and harvest pics! I'm in.

Sweet thanks for Joining!

Almost missed this post think i was writing a post in here so it skipped it weird like..?

I use to post daily but been busy.. should be back at it more soon ;)
The grow goes on either way. I run perpetual so there is a harvest in two weeks.. then o have a lull but stuff going in all the time ;)

Feel free to chime in any time


FE
 
Cloner update again!

Cloner update again!

So I wanted to mention that last night I saw roots on 3 or all 4 of the new clones. The recent addition of the air stones while using fog as well has given me roots in 7 days.. 3-4 faster than I have ever done! I consider that a huge success .. One week on clones is great! That i can work around! And I only popped 4 clones .. looks like all 4 will make it and if i pot them soon.. no bad leaves or anything.. they never wilted or nuthin!!

I added very little... GH rapid start... DMZ.....very very light nutes.. Lucas mix. (250ppm Total) I cleaned clippers popped clones and put them in. No scraping no fancy cut on bottom.. nothing.. The tub runs around 83-85 deg F as it is half on a heat mat. I read to run hot but worry. I run DMZ and change water pretty consistent so no slime so far. and ph is 5.9-6.0 generally. they are right in my veg set up under the 20-4 I run MHS at 300W. I try to keep humidity around 60%-65%. No dome or anything but humidifier is close they get some from it i am sure...

So that is about it.. That simple... I will plant these in Veg tub when roots get bigger.. they just popped. If I can replicate it and have it down to the weekly thing then I don't think I will change anything for while...

Other changes coming first for sure! Other growing projects always happening!

Thanks for reading

FE
 
Merry Xmas to me.. Wifey just showed up with an ACDC clone in dirt for me ;) If I can get it to take in hydro.. new strain!!! ACDC read the review 1 part THC per 20 part CBD. Serious meds!

It really is for her as I prefer the heady stuff but kinda neat to have my family involved with my hobby.

Just a quick thing...

Off to make some BHO

;)

FE
 
Sorry my friend. i can not find much on it either.

Thanks for looking
ridiculously rare I guess...
9-10 weeks flower I read somewhere 1 part THC to 20 part CBD is insane ratio...
Can't really find legit info though just a few tidbits here and there...

Anyway.. Lets hope it makes it cause soil to hydro conversion is messy...

Not only did my wife get it for me... She said tonight Please make the whole basement into a garden because she wants winter tomatoes... Well let's see thats how many square feet? Holy shit...

I said nah just need a few walls for a separate veg room.. I'll add a tomato room next...

I'll be getting some 2x4's soon ;)

FE
 
From paper to started!

From paper to started!

So I started the expansion tonight. Well all I did was get the 2x4's and started organizing...I'll have to move and reorganize quite a bit of stuff to add on. Also I am struggling a little with the entrance and overall size. It really isnt that big of an add on but it is 150% of the size of my space that will be flower. It is my total space right now where i manage to do all of it. This new area will also become some grow stuff storage and work area. I am kinda stoked for it! The only issue is the water has to stay where it is but I am thinking of how to add a drain in the new room. So i can pump the old water directly out as I do now.

I have enough stuff to work on it for hours right now but have days of obligations. I'll get going soon enough

:peace:


FE
 
Re: Cloner Update.

I'll update the results on this batch as it is the first run with both the air stones and fogger. Eventually I will find the set up I like and be done with it but it is fun playing with and I haven't hurt results yet so it's been good. Maybe i'll try and Aero next...

thanks for reading

:peace:

FE

cannabis is a forgiving plant. amazingly i have been tinkering with the same plant and not killed it. all at the expense of no buds and "dialing" it in. I suppose setting the system right is the real gold we should be after.

Vlad
 
Re: Cloner Update.

cannabis is a forgiving plant. amazingly i have been tinkering with the same plant and not killed it. all at the expense of no buds and "dialing" it in. I suppose setting the system right is the real gold we should be after.

Vlad

Sure is..
My latest clone run with the fog and the bubblers popped roots in 7 days..and 100 % success much better than i had ever achieved..! I think this as good as it can get on clones!

FE
 
Yesterdays Update today!

Yesterdays Update today!

So when uploading pic's last night the sight crashed and wouldn't let me back on again so I went to bed..

I'll do one this am ;)


So things are looking pretty good. I am in the pre-construction phase. I have gone over the new layout several times. It really is just an issue of time to do it. I'll have to grab some sheet rock too but that will be after the walls are up.

So now about my current grow...


Things are rolling along nicely...

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This tub i removed a PC and moved the BK to the other new veg tub. I had a hard time moving them as all the stones where stuck to the roots. I really need to find a way to avoid this. I know if i removed them and replace them more often it is better but I hate to disturb them. These three all have clones so maybe tonight I will freshen up the tub and put the clones in here... they are basically ready...


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So this is the BK and the new ACDC. They have their own tub. BK goes into flower next and hopefully when the new set up is done I can start running six in flower at ones with room to spare. The ACDC can go into flower as soon as it is ready. I am sooo curious on the strain. trying finding seeds or clones for it...$329 for a seed... yes cali connection for 329.. stupid! I think it was an older post from when it was created. I feel like i need to treat that clone like a family member... no better than that...


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these are my clones I can't stop talking about... all perfect.. ready for their next phase. Over the next few days this will all be swapped around and these will end up in the veg tub! their roots are ready anytime...


So over in flower I have been chugging along...

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The TW here is sooo small but already starting to bud. It was a reveg flower clone so it is responding different to Flower this time. I am testing a little on this thing. The water in the tub is really full. Lots of air this time though i am wondering if it will drown. So far it hasnt... it has been 2 days. I want to redo all my airstone methods... but will have to implement that when I do all the change over after the new build. I have too many splitters etc... flow is uneven on some stones. I want it even.

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The BK is a very strange growth to me.. it's stretch gave it a pom pom top. BK and SD have always been popular to me so I am looking forward to harvesting this one. That being said I want it to fill out so I will wait until after the DCC as it seems like it is behind it even thought they both went to flower at the same time.


So on that DCC

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It is growing nicely and it starting it's very unique to me scent. It has but didn't want to stop stretching.. I did some LST and HST training. It responded nicely... I have a cola on the top i trained almost in a circle. Look.. hard to see though..

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I'll see if I can get a pic when I harvest it....

I am going to try to hold off on harvesting early on these as I am in no rush and no shortage of bud. Well always with the projects I use that are starting to use up zips like candy. But I can wait an extra week or two on plants at this point as I won't have as much of a space issue. Future flower plants should also have more room so I can veg them a little longer and prune them more and easier once completed. I guess I won't be pushing down the yield as planned originally planned. but rather I will go for the yield as I seem to want to and do lots and lots of Zips as projects.. give away... Guess everyone was right. I will never have an issue finding out what to do with good bud.

Well I guess that is about it for now

everyone have a good Christmas !!

:peace:

FE
 
Gonna have to learn again....

So the grow room upgrade is nearly complete...
I knew I would not be able to stop until it was complete once I got started. It is a good/ Bad trait i have. Hate shit incomplete...So I added a veg/ Work room

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Not huge but it did add 150 % of what I had. Now I can flower in it's own room with plenty of room for 6 ladies to spread out all at once... here is some pics of the ladies now....

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They all got neglected a little.. Well I forgot over the holidays to add cal mag and the PH was off a little. But hey no biggie. They are lights out in the pics and will have to get use to pics again as I am running them at the moment under my HPS at 600W ;)

I need the heat as the two rooms now don't hold quite the heat the small room use to. 59 F in lights out in flower is chilly. Veg runs at 62-65. I only have the three in flower at the moment so i debated putting my LED in the Veg room but don't like to wear glasses all the time when I am in there. I originally was going to start flushing the DCC but decided to run both that and the BK back a week. I just want to see if I can push the yield now that space is no issue. All the plants spread right out. Well the DCC did.

It will be interesting when I add more to flower and get up to six plants I will have LED on one side and HPS on the other. I can definitely do some side by side comparisons if I get ambitious enough for sure... But for now just need to decide who gets LED who gets HPS.

By summer time I will need more LED's for sure as heat will then be a factor again.



So for Christmas my family went to visit my friend at the grow store and bought me a well neat gift...a Top feed drip system with a 13 gal res complete. I say it like that because at first I was like hmm I don't use that type of setup. But then I got to thinking... and some more...

And some more .. as i built the Veg room... Ok you get it...

The guy knows my stuff somewhat and I think he believes this set up would be ideal for me and umm i think he is right.. (i'll go today and talk to him)

If I run this set up... Plants can go into and out of tubs as simple as picking it up and removing a hose... No need to add more nutes etc as I expand or contract.

I have built one tub to run with 5 plants so far I'll show pics of the conversion.

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That simple. I filled about 5 gallons in the Res and later topped it off at ten.

I messed with the drippers for awhile until I got them how I like them as I built rings but scrapped the idea as I didn't like the flow etc. So just a simple hole in the side for hose to run through and a clothes pin to hold them in right spot.

Simple...

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I have to say I think umm the plants love it... So far they look lush and better than the 4 in the DWC tub (that is fresh). Now these guys well three of them where in a veg tub that was a week overdue on fresh nutes so they had started to show it. Maybe the fresh stuff in the top feed are the reason for the increase in health.

The concept of this is what enticed me to install it. Plants can so simply be put in veg tubs. Plug them in no need to add a fresh batch of nutes etc... A big tray may be in the future. PH and ppm checks are one res to work on and if I correct something it is pretty much instant. No waiting for things to even out....

I am running the pump 15 min on and 15 mins off. It is quiet other than the click... squirt of air for a second...

No More Big Pumps.. well soon on that part.. still a veg tank with one..

There also is about 1 inch of water in the bottom of the tubs that don't drain and apparently this is not a bad thing the roots will utilize it and breath through the upper half of the roots.

So I am learning this and so far like it... I have a ton of questions and concerns etc but hopefully will figure it all out. It has been fun to play with so far.

I am sure it can be used in flower as well but I don't think I have the height to do it as I would need to elevate the flower tubs and lose critical vertical space. I would absolutely love to do it though. I could use it for all the flower tubs and then flush with dwc for the last week. Certainly would love to figure it out somehow. I run everything the same on all my flower plants besides flushing. So the idea of one res for all six tubs is super enticing! There is always the danger of an issue in one becoming an issue in all but bah... lol

I am sure as the mental wheels turn I will find the solution. I am excited for this next chapter of growing with the new room and all. I am sure new challenges are approaching. stay tuned!


:peace:


FE
 
Looks good FE. I have considered the top drip systems. I did not go with it obviously, but a top drip system on a flood and drain "pan", is probably what you are thinking of in the flower room. What I am thinking is;
using your totes, drill a couple of holes in the bottom enough to allow the water to drain easily.
place the totes in a drain pan (need one that has groves in the bottom that drain into a hole).
the res is what the pan drains into. Then you pump it back up into the tote.
Fill the tote with hydroton and just plant the rooted clones into the hydroton.
Now you have this in the veg and the flower room. When it is time to move them to flower just pick up the tote and move it to the pan in the flower room. You would lose the height of the res. Perhaps using a scrog method to spread them horizontally in the beginning of stretch will let you reclaim the vertical space? Just some food for thought. I have really been thinking about this my self. The couple of commercial grows that I have seen in journals have used a flood and drain approach. There seems to be a big savings by using a flood pan/table with a simple drip system into the medium. I have seen them use it in a sog setup.
 
Vlad threw away his DWC and went top-feed. Now all the kinks are just about worked out of the system and things are going to be stellar.
Good job FE!

Hope you will share with us some root porn on the new system.
Very nice journal FE

V
 
Ok back from Hydro shop where I picked up some last needed pieces to complete the second tub.
I spent a good amount of time there talking with two people there and I have a plan.

With top feed and also mixing it with nutrient film method ( I did this without knowing) I can easily do this in veg and flower. I certainly will give it a good try. Nutrient film method is the bottom of each pot has an inch of water for the base of the roots to drink as needed. Even if the pump failed I was told this would support the plants life at least for a couple days. No more drowning in a power loss situation.

The drip is on a timer so it will get its air from the air stone in the big res and the drip off time. These will get more o2 than i have ever given them. Roots should thrive.

I removed the emitters as I was told it would be ok due to the fact I run the timer so I hope I am crossing off the loose ends. I'll get some pics up on them eventually but it is much cleaner.. simpler.. quieter.. I am excited to see the results....

thanks for stopping by...

:peace:

FE
 
Nothing to see here move along...!

So a mid update...

Things are going pretty well with the new veg room and flower... The flower room is amazballs! I moved the TW small girl under the LED cause I wanted the extra heat in there,,, 10 degrees outside and it has dropped the temps in my grow considerably. low 60's in veg continuous and high 60's in flower even with the lights on. So tomorrow off to the store to get a small heater for flower room and that should help both.

The reason the flower room is amazing is because it is so spacious now. I will lose 15 inches or so vertical height but it was 8 plus feet and if i cant get by on 7 with a little HST then I should quit this. I need that room to put a res under one side. I am working on getting a good 20 or 40 gallon one but they are very pricey...( low profile) So i will start with only running a 10 gallon in flower and change it alot. Plus i will harvest 2 soon and then have crap in flower for a bit.. just 1 plant. So I can start it up on the new stuff as i put it in there and finish up what is in flower on DWC.

The temps have seemed to slow down production. the girls in flower had a heavy heavy defol a couple days ago and a nute boost only tonight. Did the defol simply because I wanted to. everything looked good but cluttered. Last couple i didn't defol alot so these two the BK and DCC i chopped a good amount. I also was ok with it because I am in no hurry to finish them. Well i am but I am not. Always look forward to the reward for the work but if yield gains can be 30% in waiting one week then I am all for that!

Future yield should be sweet as the new floor plan most plants can grow as much as they desire. Spacious as planned in there!

So thats the current situation. Pics to come later in the week. Long weekend again so the RWDC in flower should get set up. May not have much on it but hopefully functional.

Oh the 4 other plants are on the RWDC in Veg and they are doing well. I was running 15 min on and 15 min off but talking to OG on Vlads thread he waters only 4 times a day for 15 minutes using hydroton like me. I need to check his set up so I can compare and haven't had a chance. but i backed mine off to 15 min on and 45 off... I'll see how they respond to that and play more from there. I would rather give them more than enough water but only if it doesn't have ill effects. If it will thrive better from the extra O2 when it is idle I want to know and go for it!


So I have a question I would love to have some action and responses to!
I am running two light's in Flower One LED and one HPS. LED on one side with projected three under it and HPS opposite side with same.. 3 under it. Should I use one side for early flower and other for late? Mix it up? I have been really debating what to do with the mix of led and Hps. Current plan is to just put some in each no rhyme or reason but haven't come up with a different plan that would make sense. Or a reason to want to mix or something. I am sure I will learn what strains like what if I do comparisons but I wasn't sure what others thought!!

So thats about it...


Have a good New Year All!

:peace:

FE
 
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