Perpetual Grow Among Other Things!

Houston another issue!!!

It has to do with the PC...


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Yes what is it?



The f in harvest is damn good .. I mean this is hard work.. I am only half way through... Damn .. no idea on the yield but I have zero complaints....

N1 was 1.89 Zips...
This will blow it away.. and i mean so sticky i cant keep anything clean and I am trying not to touch the crap....

And yes I have some neat pics to show Cogreen you where right on... Bleached buds.. neat as shit,,, not burned... just all white...

Anyway back at it.. getting late already and I am not close yet...

Pics tomm i am sure


FE
 
LOL. Wish I was there too help you FE! :)

Thanks Bama. I would gladly accept your help and make sure to send you on your way with a care package after ;) I did milk it. I mean i took my time overall.. The PC i wanted to manicure carefully. the stickiness was so unreal and messy that I want to maximize this one. I bet even the hash i make will be really good on this one. Hate to guess at this point but there are some serious nugs. I bet yield was double the N1's earlier in the week. not sure.. hard to tell but the n1 ended up mostly small nugs. I am tryin desperately to get a pic of the bleached top bud. It goes from my finger tip to past my wrist. Huge.. can't seem to get a good one.. but I was tired. I do need a better ergonomic cutting area. Sitting on a milk crate hunched over has my back displeased with me.


Cleanup tonight. Still got a tub in flower with a butchered plant. mess all over. Checked some stats last night but didnt log them... just wanted to see what was going on... Doesn't end with this harvest. This is actually when it gets good. My perpetual is running full force. 3 weeks i think on TW and WW.

Fogger should be in today and ..... The clones popped last night... atleast one of each TW and WW. The PC not yet but looks close. weird they where cut almost 10 days before the TW and WW's. Thats all good though the PC i have still a big ass one in veg.. I really just need one to take to keep the strain going... definitely the TW and WW will go back into Flower next. So my clones i messed up in the beginning this round but I did get them to work. The TW and WW where less than 10 days..(gotta look that up) I am going to try the fogger only cause I panicked basically and ordered it.. 10 bucks so what ever..lol Kinda needed a new tinker toy anyway... If the roots can happen on the clones easier, faster, better than i am all for that. But as long as they do I can work the schedule around however long it takes.

Alright off to earn my keep...

:peace:

FE
 
Sorry to hear I was right about the bleaching... As I understand bleached flower looses it potency / taste. However I'd be interested to hear your take on the affects of bleaching if you get time.

Tough one... I will certainly test it's smoke separate from the rest. It is only 3 buds and just the tops..(about one inch) Other than totally white they look normal .. pistils on them and all... I'll try to get a decent pic tonight... I am not totally surprised as the PC grew right up to about 4 inches from the LED and I knew it was too close. I am not sad though it is actually quite interesting

:peace:


FE
 
Grab your smoke and have a seat please...

11-12-2015

This may get super long winded my apologies.. The most I have accomplished in three days since I think I redid my grow room..Have a seat light up a good bowl and sit back for the ride....

So lets start with my last harvest and little update on it....

After one week hanging it became this....
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Sufficiently dried just as planned... I chopped it all up and it looked like this


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Weighing in at 1.89 zips.. maybe slightly less than I expected due to me pulling it a full week early but let me tell you... Good call... 7-8 grams in and i have yet to see a seed. I know I saw a couple somewhere before it's harvest or as I was doing it but the plant did not pop all over like last time. The smoke is sooo much better already and it has no cure really..a couple weeks and it will be smoother as last time it got better with curing. It definitely grew way more potent. It was evident in the tric's all over it.


So the PC was due next and these are kinda the final pic's of it...


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Quite a bit of work... I stuck with my last plan it worked. Lunch time I chopped the plant in very large cola's stocks and hung them complete... Went back to work and then came home to clean them all... I do believe in cutting them in dark so they will have dropped fluid back into res some... Maybe helps maybe not... been doing it and its all working so there yah go.....

So here is some pic's of the chopping... I guess i forgot complete plant hanging.. That suks!

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Those two pics have the white topped bud... Very unusual but probably just the bleaching from light height. I don't think i will see it next time as my current stuff shouldn't be that tall... I definitely will post a smoke report on the tops... solo...

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Yup that was all one plant... Yup you saw it in my hand.. they are that big... I know they will shrink a shit load but seriously.. Those things are well you can see it on the gloves.. delicious sticky icky tric blobs. They stick to my finger and don't want to let go...and I don't want them to.. I do need to move them as I don't want them to dry so close to the charc filter blowing on them. It may make it too fast or something... Use what worked..

So let's look at the white nug again as maybe you can see it better on one of these pics and I took them so oh well...

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The sugar leaves where so delicious and sticky i didn't even want to cut them off buds .. Gonna be some hash from those things....


So this is what it looked like after harvest in Flower


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Looks funny so empty and such wimpy little plants.... Just kidding they are doing excellent.. They will give me prob 1.5-2 zips each i bet... well we'll see.. Doing good growing well I am happy about it... Both Tubs got freash nutes tonight in flower... the F1 ..pc tub was removed and plants are spread out for a couple weeks.. they will like it for sure....

Oh the roots on the PC looked like shit!!

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So here is root question for any Guru's.... Does adding colored nutes.. supps discolor roots? This thing didn't have a huge root ball.. well it was stuck in the net pot like nothing i have seen.. I chucked the whole thing... but its strands where darker except newer ones looked white.. but they probably grew during straight PH flush... This thing only hit a wall once slightly from cal mag.. stron growing almost all the way through... I add DMZ so i was curious on root coloring... Temp always 63-66 in res.


So I have two weeks to get two of these things ready.....


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I had roots pop over the last couple days on 3?? 4?? clones... So we have movement.. I wanted to get 2 WW and two TW to run in their own tubs so there may be some cloning and recloning plants coming as i try to keep the perpetual running... That is why I have the empty spot for a few weeks. Feels strange but it will help yield on the ones in there and then I should be able to just streamline it more...


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and since things are now working I figure I would screw around with it... Lookie Here!!!!


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No it isnt on fire it is fog! Mist actually and it does soak everything down inside there.. Really interested in seeing if it cuts the times down some on cloning. So I cut a really strong clone off the PC in Veg.. Just one but I have a couple coming off the DCC and the BK soon.. They will be a good test.

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So here is overall veg section... just one big ass momma i am clipping to nothing...and the clones that need to get there ass in Veg.... I am letting them Fog it up for a bit and see if this time I can throw them in veg pots with bigger roots so they can really pop... If the Pc pops roots.. at least one of the clones.. Then i can ditch the mom and refresh V1 tub and then clones can all go in there with lower ppm's. I think one of them has a couple tiny tiny roots so I may be all set tomorrow..

Ok so I have been checking stuff but busy as shit so some stats I just checked didnt log... I hate that but.. all was in range so ..harvesting was more important.. but here is what I did ...

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I guess just two ... lol!


So let me recap to myself.. Did I forget something? Possibly.. So expect follow up posts... lol

Long winded enough though.....

Thanks for trudging through with me...

:peace:

FE
 
nice job FE those buds look amazing, you should get some pics of the white topped one without a flash, or give it a contrasting background so we can see in there, but shit looks great you did an awesome job, why did you leave some leaves on the one lobe? on the root question, yes nutrient solution will stain the roots, that root ball looked massive again great job
 
nice job FE those buds look amazing, you should get some pics of the white topped one without a flash, or give it a contrasting background so we can see in there, but shit looks great you did an awesome job, why did you leave some leaves on the one lobe? on the root question, yes nutrient solution will stain the roots, that root ball looked massive again great job

Thank you for being involved... kind words... they where just fans i would be throwing away...i didn't even open the tent til late that night as all the huge stocks where being processed. all the sugars got saved in one of those cheap cheap one dollar to be exact oil pan tubs to dry to make hash... Good call on the bud i'll try without flash.. macro... had to leave room mhs light messes it up...

The root ball grew a lot this time right in the net pot.. but I ran high water at first.. may have been related... This is the reason we all do it and this one worked out very well...
 
Man you have a lot of awesomeness going on -- everything from the harvest to the fogger!
Those flowers you recently harvested look amazing; congrats on that and well done!

On your question about root discolouration... Your roots can get stained based on what your putting into your res I believe. My roots have (and have been) a tan-red color due to the Thrive Alive B1 I use (it's very dark, almost black) and I've read others have experienced root staining like this as well.

Just curious -- are those roots slimy or stinky at all? To me that might be a greater cause for concern.

Again; fine work sir and I'm guessing your house is smelling pretty dank right about now :)
 
Man you have a lot of awesomeness going on -- everything from the harvest to the fogger!
Those flowers you recently harvested look amazing; congrats on that and well done!

On your question about root discolouration... Your roots can get stained based on what your putting into your res I believe. My roots have (and have been) a tan-red color due to the Thrive Alive B1 I use (it's very dark, almost black) and I've read others have experienced root staining like this as well.

Just curious -- are those roots slimy or stinky at all? To me that might be a greater cause for concern.

Again; fine work sir and I'm guessing your house is smelling pretty dank right about now :)


Morning CG ;)
Thanks for the kindness! I am lucky to have people like you in the 420 Community to help me with my grows.. Truly a great bunch of people.. Feel like I have friends across the US now...

On the roots.. great question.. Last time on the n1 slightly but the PC had super squeaky clean roots... like squeaky really.. none no slime.. just brownish but yah cal mag is dark GM micro makes it dark etc... I just wondered.. thanks you for chiming in.. I have TW,WW BK and DCC all in flower.. my thread should always be this stuff going on..lol

The whole house does smell... basement is on door lock down... lol that controls it but don't go near there...cat litter box can't be in the basement for now..lol


Have a great friday CG,

FE
 
Somewhat PC report....

Ok so the report....
PC needs no curing... Just kidding ... it really smokes better than anything i have smoked in months as soon as dry... I will have to report more on the taste as I am sure this is not it.. but there is ZERO barn taste and clean ash immediately.

Today I went in veg and it was like 38% humidity and there where various buds crispy and some still moist but way too fast on the dry.. only been 3 plus days... Soooo I am going to be away 48 hours... so I made the call to can it up. I figure there are enough dry ones mixed with the moist ones to even it out some... Mostly dry result... well lets just say a good ways into 5 zips... only slight well ok largely over my state limit... Doh! Smoke AWAY! I am going to have to step up to bat here and keep up! The best part in the almost empty oil tray i use to process ...............................was a lonely seed................. That is how the PC all started for me........(twilight zone noises)........ this Pheno/strain i think is prone to the occasional bag seed...not PC just mine..

I'll have to keep burping them cans for awhile here but they are all in place to do so and tucked away nicely. What a great harvest and really felt amazing when I took the first hit... I did literally jump up and down. It is very effective and well off to do more sampling!!


Thanks for looking and following.. stay tuned as the TW and WW are only what 2? 3? weeks away.. Damn i forgot how much PC lingers on my breath...



:peace:

FE
 
I have to get the final measurement but 3 cola's grew until 3 inches from the light.. one leaned over early some so I tied it that way. Very tall strain...My feeling as it was growing was it would stop when I stopped moving the light up. really. Good and bad... It had immense nugs all along the sides of the 4 main tops i made... They dwarfed everything else in the tent... I was not in line with a perpetual time so it was way ahead of the others and it showed. It may be better run as a alone strain or a group together... Worth reviewing and ask me again in 2 weeks...

Serious on the potency and plus it is a "fresh" strain for me in a long time but feels very strong... One good nug burns nice and long with many hits and gets set down due to immediate response mentally... Does that make sense?

So a possible good test for me.. This was grown alone in a tub in what i use as two spots..
I need to see if the same strain run as two in a tub give me better yield... Impossible to call it a true test for me but would be fun...

I guess a true one week flush though may be more than needed will help a good strain to be usable immediately upon drying.... And i am sure it will only get better in time.. the nugs look amazing...


FE
 
its ok i voted to support you

Gosh.... (kicks dirt staring down...) um thanks... hehe I don't feel deserving but thank you Gooch!
I appreciate it fellow north easter ;) I would love to win a contest but this community has some amazing people and damn some serious competition. I only hope by doing fun things like the contest it adds some excitement to my grows and stuff... fun to talk about and stuff too!


Thanks again!

FE
 
The issue with Hydro....

It requires more upkeep!

Soil when you are busy a quick watering and away you go... Hydro if you are busy ..Like i have been for several days. It is harder to keep up with. I have managed to get some stuff done but all quickly and not apparently well enough....

So i have stats for the a few days but decided to start with tonight and go forward. The site crashed uploading once... took 45 minutes to upload pics another time .. So screw it ..

stats for tonight...


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Things have been in range more or less all along... Except the cloner... The PH was high and it stopped the plants from rooting. A few as they went into veg had other issues but we will get to that... I believe rooting that the ph and water temp are critical. I thought and thought and maybe even thought some about it... The only difference in this cloning pre fogger and awhile ago was the temps and the ph... I did research and some more.. yah you get the picture... 6.0 should be ideal for roots... temps a little warmer than normal on the res 85 or so.. 6.2 or 3 on ph or same low will be too far... as soon as I adjusted these the plants perked up over night and i moved another into Veg tonight....

Here are some Pics...


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Same pics just different camera stuff.. still sucks... my glasses don't help the pics at all (they do help my eyes immensely)


So Veg.... yah ... good thing I haven't been posting...


So here it is...

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Last pic is probably dead but the TW looked almost as bad two days ago and I had it rebound... The roots on all these where extremely vibrant including the one i put in tonight.. the PC..

the issue i had was damn stupidity again.. So I went from drowning my last batch to under watering these... Thus why I am also spraying them straight ph'd water... Their roots couldn't reach the water... So I ran the water up a ton and spray once a day... The WW is probably not going to make it ;( But I have another next to it and probably will just make it the mother of a new batch of clones again... So all good! I'll give her some more time to fight...

My humidity is way low now as I knew it would in winter but no.... I just finally ordered a humidifier. I should have awhile ago but what ever.. So that didn't help. Humidity was so low clones hated it... A few days i ordered a decent one with a digital setting... Well so i think... time will tell.


So let's look in flower...


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Things look at first glance amazing.. But time away and busy will reveal some things....


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I forget which is which but The Tw or WW one had slight burn... So after adding 20 cal mag this week and them drinking alot while i was gone etc the PPM was 1300's and that I guess it the limit... I topped off both tanks since then and PPM's are reasonable now so things are still good to go but it showed on some leaf edges etc... plants are just starting to smell slightly.. (forget what week I am ) Buds are forming... I am letting stuff just grow,, Barely some LST on them.. Kinda neat to see what happens in growth sorta natural. They are topped but the DCC and BK next aren't even topped.. I figure as I get more in this perpetual thing if I do keep this going like this... I will be defoling a lot in the future so I wanted to see when there is extra space how they grow.

So they next group is really growing.. The DCC almost caught the other flower plants weeks ahead of it in height.
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It as well has had leaf issues etc but it has never slowed it down. It want's this tent to be it's b..... ok i am back...

The BK is just awesome! look at it!!


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I love the new looking to me leaves.. almost roundish! ok what ever just looking cool...

So things are good.... My perpetual is going to be off... I think I have a new plan... UMM.. lets just say last yield was kinda an awakening to to the results of a good harvest.. If I continue even 50 or 25% of that there will be i hate to say... too much...

So I need to be focusing on vegging more cloning more and throwing the occasional plant into flower when I like it... Singles at a time etc... After the four in flower now I will have the variety I was seeking minus a few but a good start... So then I can play more and be more selective.. Shoot for less plants utilizing the square footage per plant increase to get yield.. always have some stuff ready to throw into flower and play with them more for fun!

So i don't think I missed anything. I'll do a PC smoke report soon...

Have a good night thanks for coming by...


:peace:

FE
 
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