I think I'd go crazy without family near me. You and LA amaze me.
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GardenFaerie
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My hunny bunny is my family. The rest, well, my mother is in New York and will not even come visit me in the last 20 years I've lived here. And, everyone else is mental. So, we're happy being 2,000 miles from anyone!
Don't blame your mother, I don't have to tell you how hard it is to get some people out of the city.
GardenFaerie
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I don't blame her, but if I am to take care of her when she is really too old (now 80 still works full time), she needs to be closer to where I live. I can't move back up there. I'd love to, but only Brooklyn and she lives in the Hamptons on the water...which will be mine some day, but who can afford taxes out there in a big beach house? Eh.
Yeah, I hear you. If she was still in the city in the same apt. that long the rent would be something like $70 a month. I'm still angry at my sister for losing the apt. we grew up in. She gave into the Landlord's buy out & now she's paying nearly $1800 a month for a two bedroom on the same side of town. They're probably getting at least that for the 3 bedroom apt. we grew up in since the Landlord got it back. My sister was paying $93 a month & took a buy out that wasn't even $10,000. I couldn't step in because under the new NYC rent control laws you have to have utilities or bills to that address dating back one year or more from the last lease renewal.
Another grand move of the X mayor Bloomberg. "Lets give the Landlords more room to get rid of old tenants"
Another grand move of the X mayor Bloomberg. "Lets give the Landlords more room to get rid of old tenants"
ProperGreen
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Man! I Can't Tell You How LONG It Took To Get Here! Great Work From Top To Bottom!
But I finally made it and I have to say GREAT WORK brother!
It's been nice watching the progress you've made over the course of this thread,
and it's even nicer now that I'm all caught up and can follow along while I'm here
@
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Hopefully I can learn a thing or two from you as well! I'm new to this forum but not to organic farming!
But I find it amazing all the different ways you can grow a perfect plant without attempting to "feed" it with all these high priced snake oil and salts! I've never fed my plants! I only feed my soil!
But keep up the good work & I'll be around from this point forward!
Organic we stand!
& Blessings!
Ps, I harvested a Darkstar this summer and it looked remarkably similar to yours!
The effect of it was very nice and it was really potent and made you wanna just have a seat haha.
And the aroma was something else! It smelled like something totally other than cannabis.
Kind of a cinnamon-ish, orange-like mixture, with some weird spicy smell that I couldn't put a finger on!
Kinda reminded me of Seedsman White Widow while flowering, but in the end it tasted exactly like it smelled! See ya around the forum brother!
Also pick up some Kelp Meal and Alfalfa Meal just because of all the great things they both bring to the table in terms of the organic garden!
And I'm new to the Excelerite scene, so would you care to share with me how you've been using it!
But I finally made it and I have to say GREAT WORK brother!
It's been nice watching the progress you've made over the course of this thread,
and it's even nicer now that I'm all caught up and can follow along while I'm here
@
!Hopefully I can learn a thing or two from you as well! I'm new to this forum but not to organic farming!
But I find it amazing all the different ways you can grow a perfect plant without attempting to "feed" it with all these high priced snake oil and salts! I've never fed my plants! I only feed my soil!
But keep up the good work & I'll be around from this point forward!
Organic we stand!
& Blessings!Ps, I harvested a Darkstar this summer and it looked remarkably similar to yours!
The effect of it was very nice and it was really potent and made you wanna just have a seat haha.
And the aroma was something else! It smelled like something totally other than cannabis.
Kind of a cinnamon-ish, orange-like mixture, with some weird spicy smell that I couldn't put a finger on!
Kinda reminded me of Seedsman White Widow while flowering, but in the end it tasted exactly like it smelled! See ya around the forum brother!
Also pick up some Kelp Meal and Alfalfa Meal just because of all the great things they both bring to the table in terms of the organic garden!
And I'm new to the Excelerite scene, so would you care to share with me how you've been using it!
Happy Skunkday Pj 
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Re: Man! I Can't Tell You How LONG It Took To Get Here! Great Work From Top To Bottom
Welcome Mr. Green. All I can say is the Darkstar sample was indeed a "take a seat" smoke. I was shocked by how good it was. I'm going to chop it as soon as I find a window of opportunity - maybe even today.
The Excelerite is a source of all the trace minerals a plant, bacteria or protazoan could ever want - similar to azomite. It is also a cation exchange agent that binds positive ions out of the solution (soil or water.) It needs to cook in the soil for a while to function - at least three weeks. Mineralized soil is the foundation of high-brix growing.
The Yum Yum mix in my soil has both kelp and alfalfa meals as well as a little cottonseed meal. It also has greensand, rock dust and lots of other good stuff. It's a great balanced product I've used for years landscape gardening and a great way to reduce the number of amendments one must purchase to build high-powered soil. Here is a picture of some Yum Yum.
But I finally made it and I have to say GREAT WORK brother!
It's been nice watching the progress you've made over the course of this thread,
and it's even nicer now that I'm all caught up and can follow along while I'm here
@
Hopefully I can learn a thing or two from you as well! I'm new to this forum but not to organic farming!
But I find it amazing all the different ways you can grow a perfect plant without attempting to "feed" it with all these high priced snake oil and salts! I've never fed my plants! I only feed my soil!
But keep up the good work & I'll be around from this point forward!
Organic we stand!
Ps, I harvested a Darkstar this summer and it looked remarkably similar to yours!
The effect of it was very nice and it was really potent and made you wanna just have a seat haha.
And the aroma was something else! It smelled like something totally other than cannabis.
Kind of a cinnamon-ish, orange-like mixture, with some weird spicy smell that I couldn't put a finger on!
Kinda reminded me of Seedsman White Widow while flowering, but in the end it tasted exactly like it smelled! See ya around the forum brother!
Also pick up some Kelp Meal and Alfalfa Meal just because of all the great things they both bring to the table in terms of the organic garden!
And I'm new to the Excelerite scene, so would you care to share with me how you've been using it!
Welcome Mr. Green. All I can say is the Darkstar sample was indeed a "take a seat" smoke. I was shocked by how good it was. I'm going to chop it as soon as I find a window of opportunity - maybe even today.
The Excelerite is a source of all the trace minerals a plant, bacteria or protazoan could ever want - similar to azomite. It is also a cation exchange agent that binds positive ions out of the solution (soil or water.) It needs to cook in the soil for a while to function - at least three weeks. Mineralized soil is the foundation of high-brix growing.
The Yum Yum mix in my soil has both kelp and alfalfa meals as well as a little cottonseed meal. It also has greensand, rock dust and lots of other good stuff. It's a great balanced product I've used for years landscape gardening and a great way to reduce the number of amendments one must purchase to build high-powered soil. Here is a picture of some Yum Yum.
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Oh, I forgot to say, Mr. Green that the dried Darkstar sample I smoked yesterday smelled of gingerbread with a little spruce in the background. I like the spicy smell. A couple of weeks ago it stank of turpentine, but that faded the last couple of weeks. I'll be pleased if the spice develops further while it cures.
Dresney
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Great going, Peejay 
Your girls look furry to me!
I've been looking at Yum Yum Mix and a couple other products on that manufacturer's website. I may end up trying a couple of their products. Thanks for introducing them to us.
I got real high and spent like 3 hours on their website Saturday. Think I read some of the same product descriptions 4-5 times.
Have some more-than-deserved reps!
Your girls look furry to me!
I've been looking at Yum Yum Mix and a couple other products on that manufacturer's website. I may end up trying a couple of their products. Thanks for introducing them to us.
I got real high and spent like 3 hours on their website Saturday. Think I read some of the same product descriptions 4-5 times.
Have some more-than-deserved reps!
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Cool Dres! The Yum-Yum was developed by a gardener in Santa Fe many years ago. She marketed it herself for many years before selling the proprietary "recipe" to the soil mender folks. It would be fun if someone else was using it.
Dresney
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Heya again, PJ
I'm looking to start doing some heavy soil microbiology and mineralogy homework. Any books you've read that stand out?
I'm probably going to order some heavy duty college texts soon. Going to get my nerd on.
(Mr. Dres makes fun of me because I prefer to do my reading away from computers and devices. Real books for life!)
I'm looking to start doing some heavy soil microbiology and mineralogy homework. Any books you've read that stand out?
I'm probably going to order some heavy duty college texts soon. Going to get my nerd on.
(Mr. Dres makes fun of me because I prefer to do my reading away from computers and devices. Real books for life!)
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Ouch! College texts are not much fun. How are you on the basics of chemistry and microbiology? I read all over the place and have enough background to decipher most stuff.
These two books by Jeff Lowenfelds are very good: "Teeming with Microbes" and "Teeming with Nutrients." If you have an understanding of the basics they will be very valuable - you don't need to be a science fiend to get lots of great information but a general understanding of chemical principals helps.
"Anatomy of Life and Energy in Agriculture" by Arden Anderson is a great read, a little more technical than the two Lowenfelds books. It demystifies high-brix principals. It really isn't as complicated as the high-brix gangstahs would have us believe. Doc's kit is great, but it ain't the only way. There is a lot of "true high-brix" hoo-ha out there. True high-brix is determined by refractometer readings not by using someone's kit.
These two books by Jeff Lowenfelds are very good: "Teeming with Microbes" and "Teeming with Nutrients." If you have an understanding of the basics they will be very valuable - you don't need to be a science fiend to get lots of great information but a general understanding of chemical principals helps.
"Anatomy of Life and Energy in Agriculture" by Arden Anderson is a great read, a little more technical than the two Lowenfelds books. It demystifies high-brix principals. It really isn't as complicated as the high-brix gangstahs would have us believe. Doc's kit is great, but it ain't the only way. There is a lot of "true high-brix" hoo-ha out there. True high-brix is determined by refractometer readings not by using someone's kit.
ProperGreen
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Darkstar, Yum Yum, & Excelerite! And Good Morning Brother!
Morning sir! And thanks for the response!
I opted to try the Excelerite just because it was suggested to me by the guy in the store, so I'm glad to see that you're actually having success with it.
I used it @ about 1/3cup per cubic foot of my soil mix. To be more specific I used 1 cup in 2.75 cu ft of base.
I read that it won't burn which is usually my key to use it a little more liberally, but then I read that a little goes a long way so I held off a bit, with the thought in mind that I can always top dress it procatively.
But how'd you use it brother?
And yep, I let my soil always sit and cycle for a month before I use it!
And the Yum Yum sounds damned good actually! I would have probably tried it out had I know what it was before now! I'm trying to work towards using only plant based amendments and the Yum Yum works for that totally. Def. something I'll take a mental note of for the next mix. Looks great on the net.
And GINGERBREAD!!!! That's what it is I think! The smell! Probably Spruce too, but I'm not too sure what that smells like at the moment lol, but def. a truly unique aroma. Off all the weed I've ever come across, even living in The Netherlands for a year and a half, I'd only smelled something similar once!
I think that both our phenos were Mazar Dominant for sure! I didn't get any kush out of mind at all it seemed!
What about yours? And If you even had a Mazar strain before, what's it like?
& Blessings brother
Ps, @Dresney , I too think that Teaming With Microbes is a MUST READ!
And @PeeJay, PLEASE Look into the Boveda Humidipak 62%! You WILL thank me later if you haven't already used them! And I tried to link you to the grow of my Darkstar, but it doesn't work for whatever reason...Maybe I don't have enough posts or you can't link to other forums?? Oh well..
Morning sir! And thanks for the response!
I opted to try the Excelerite just because it was suggested to me by the guy in the store, so I'm glad to see that you're actually having success with it.
I used it @ about 1/3cup per cubic foot of my soil mix. To be more specific I used 1 cup in 2.75 cu ft of base.
I read that it won't burn which is usually my key to use it a little more liberally, but then I read that a little goes a long way so I held off a bit, with the thought in mind that I can always top dress it procatively.
But how'd you use it brother?
And yep, I let my soil always sit and cycle for a month before I use it!
And the Yum Yum sounds damned good actually! I would have probably tried it out had I know what it was before now! I'm trying to work towards using only plant based amendments and the Yum Yum works for that totally. Def. something I'll take a mental note of for the next mix. Looks great on the net.
And GINGERBREAD!!!! That's what it is I think! The smell! Probably Spruce too, but I'm not too sure what that smells like at the moment lol, but def. a truly unique aroma. Off all the weed I've ever come across, even living in The Netherlands for a year and a half, I'd only smelled something similar once!
I think that both our phenos were Mazar Dominant for sure! I didn't get any kush out of mind at all it seemed!
What about yours? And If you even had a Mazar strain before, what's it like?
& Blessings brotherPs, @Dresney , I too think that Teaming With Microbes is a MUST READ!
And @PeeJay, PLEASE Look into the Boveda Humidipak 62%! You WILL thank me later if you haven't already used them! And I tried to link you to the grow of my Darkstar, but it doesn't work for whatever reason...Maybe I don't have enough posts or you can't link to other forums?? Oh well..
GardenFaerie
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Re: Darkstar, Yum Yum, & Excelerite! And Good Morning Brother!
There is so much talk and discussion in the 420 community about fertilizer and products for this and that. I have seen people saying they use more than suggested because it is slow release. I have to chime in a bit. Organic fertilizers have three numbers on their bags like all other fertilizer. Federal regulations require that the bag be labeled with the exact amount of immediate availability of the top 3 of NPK. Synthetic fertilizers use much higher numbers, yes. Miracle Gro uses 15-30-15 which, in the industry, they call a "balanced" fertilizer when it is nothing of the sort. It is toxic waste do NOT USE IT AND SMOKE IT. It is made of petro chemical waste. Please avoid it. Organic fertilizer is developed for one thing, to feed the microbes in the soil which then break it down into exudate and root hairs can take up nutrients. Plants do not know if a nutrient is made of petroleum and heavy metals/salts OR if it comes from plants. What does know are the microbes in the soil. They die instantly when we over fertilize. Eh, I'm on a rant...not so much for this forum because organic is the method of preference, but out here in the world who I've been battling for 30 years about organics. Rant off.
Morning sir! And thanks for the response!
I opted to try the Excelerite just because it was suggested to me by the guy in the store, so I'm glad to see that you're actually having success with it.
I used it @ about 1/3cup per cubic foot of my soil mix. To be more specific I used 1 cup in 2.75 cu ft of base.
I read that it won't burn which is usually my key to use it a little more liberally, but then I read that a little goes a long way so I held off a bit, with the thought in mind that I can always top dress it procatively.
But how'd you use it brother?
And yep, I let my soil always sit and cycle for a month before I use it!
And the Yum Yum sounds damned good actually! I would have probably tried it out had I know what it was before now! I'm trying to work towards using only plant based amendments and the Yum Yum works for that totally. Def. something I'll take a mental note of for the next mix. Looks great on the net.
And GINGERBREAD!!!! That's what it is I think! The smell! Probably Spruce too, but I'm not too sure what that smells like at the moment lol, but def. a truly unique aroma. Off all the weed I've ever come across, even living in The Netherlands for a year and a half, I'd only smelled something similar once!
But here's a link to the exact page of the last post on that thread. It's from last summer and is all there but the last three weeks or so, but you can get the idea of the pheno I had thru what is there. I let a guy in on my locally and ended up deeming him untrustworthy, so I had to fake the death of the girls lol.
Last time I EVER open my mouth about what I'm up to, to someone that I haven't grown up with.
But here's the thread in case you wanted to check it out
-https://forums.-------------.com/topic/7060-summer-2013-100-organic-indoor-garden/page-20
I think that both our phenos were Mazar Dominant for sure! I didn't get any kush out of mind at all it seemed!
What about yours? And If you even had a Mazar strain before, what's it like?
Ps, @Dresney , I too think that Teaming With Microbes is a MUST READ!
And @PeeJay, PLEASE Look into the Boveda Humidipak 62%! You WILL thank me later if you haven't already used them!
There is so much talk and discussion in the 420 community about fertilizer and products for this and that. I have seen people saying they use more than suggested because it is slow release. I have to chime in a bit. Organic fertilizers have three numbers on their bags like all other fertilizer. Federal regulations require that the bag be labeled with the exact amount of immediate availability of the top 3 of NPK. Synthetic fertilizers use much higher numbers, yes. Miracle Gro uses 15-30-15 which, in the industry, they call a "balanced" fertilizer when it is nothing of the sort. It is toxic waste do NOT USE IT AND SMOKE IT. It is made of petro chemical waste. Please avoid it. Organic fertilizer is developed for one thing, to feed the microbes in the soil which then break it down into exudate and root hairs can take up nutrients. Plants do not know if a nutrient is made of petroleum and heavy metals/salts OR if it comes from plants. What does know are the microbes in the soil. They die instantly when we over fertilize. Eh, I'm on a rant...not so much for this forum because organic is the method of preference, but out here in the world who I've been battling for 30 years about organics. Rant off.
Dresney
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Re: Darkstar, Yum Yum, & Excelerite! And Good Morning Brother!
I will check those titles out, for sure.
I love good college textbooks. There sure are some flops out there though. I was a chemistry major, and my first organic chemistry book is one of my most cherished books. I just can't get rid of it... what if I need it someday... for... something?
Sunday morning, sitting in my big comfy chair with a blanket, dual-wielding a highlighter and a bowl of Loretta while reading well-written, informative text... doesn't get much better than that.
This is the third recommendation for this book now. I think I'll order it today.
I will check those titles out, for sure.
I love good college textbooks. There sure are some flops out there though. I was a chemistry major, and my first organic chemistry book is one of my most cherished books. I just can't get rid of it... what if I need it someday... for... something?
Sunday morning, sitting in my big comfy chair with a blanket, dual-wielding a highlighter and a bowl of Loretta while reading well-written, informative text... doesn't get much better than that.
This is the third recommendation for this book now. I think I'll order it today.
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As a chem major you will like the Arden Anderson book, Dres. I always strive to keep in mind that biochemical pathways are not independent - they are all interrelated by allosteric and hormonal regulation and feedback loops, reactions are driven by concentration of substrates and enzyme gene expression, yada, yada, yada. "Anatomy of Life and Energy in Agriculture" does a great job of putting all those things into perspective.
Mr. Green, I just use the excelerite as a soil amendment. Here are the recipes for the soils I'm using:
For the seedling mix I combined 3 gallons of Sunshine, 1 gallon of FFOF, one gallon of chunky perlite, and 1/2 cup of granulated mixed mycorrizial inoculate. From what I've been reading, seedlings benefit greatly from a soil biota dominated by fungus. There is plenty of food in the FFOF to feed the seedlings, the Sunshine is not nutrient rich at all, and the perlite improves drainage.
The base for both the veg and flower soils is the same. Nine gallons of Sunshine, three gallons of FFOH, three gallons of worm castings, one and a half gallons of chunky perlite, five cups of Yum-Yum mix, and one cup of Excelerite. Here is a blurb from the Excellerite web-site about this product:
"U.S. Rare Earth Minerals has been blessed with the rights to mine what is widely considered the rarest source of ancient lake bed sediments in Panaca Nevada found to date. A host of scientists recognize it as the richest known source in the world for natural occurring macro, micro and nano nutrients. These minerals and trace elements have been naturally chelated in the presence of Humic and Fulvic acids to produce the powerful combination of Panaca minerals,that we call Excelerite; Excelerite is approved by the Organic Materials Review Institude ( OMRI ) listed, and may be used in certified organic production or food processing and handling according to the USDA National Organic Program Rule.
The only other thing the veg soil gets is 1 cup of 10-1-1 Mexican bat guano.
The flower soil has no Mexican guano. It gets 1 cup of 0.5-13-0.2 Indonesian bat guano, and 1 cup of soft rock phosphate.
Mr. Green, I just use the excelerite as a soil amendment. Here are the recipes for the soils I'm using:
For the seedling mix I combined 3 gallons of Sunshine, 1 gallon of FFOF, one gallon of chunky perlite, and 1/2 cup of granulated mixed mycorrizial inoculate. From what I've been reading, seedlings benefit greatly from a soil biota dominated by fungus. There is plenty of food in the FFOF to feed the seedlings, the Sunshine is not nutrient rich at all, and the perlite improves drainage.
The base for both the veg and flower soils is the same. Nine gallons of Sunshine, three gallons of FFOH, three gallons of worm castings, one and a half gallons of chunky perlite, five cups of Yum-Yum mix, and one cup of Excelerite. Here is a blurb from the Excellerite web-site about this product:
"U.S. Rare Earth Minerals has been blessed with the rights to mine what is widely considered the rarest source of ancient lake bed sediments in Panaca Nevada found to date. A host of scientists recognize it as the richest known source in the world for natural occurring macro, micro and nano nutrients. These minerals and trace elements have been naturally chelated in the presence of Humic and Fulvic acids to produce the powerful combination of Panaca minerals,that we call Excelerite; Excelerite is approved by the Organic Materials Review Institude ( OMRI ) listed, and may be used in certified organic production or food processing and handling according to the USDA National Organic Program Rule.
The only other thing the veg soil gets is 1 cup of 10-1-1 Mexican bat guano.
The flower soil has no Mexican guano. It gets 1 cup of 0.5-13-0.2 Indonesian bat guano, and 1 cup of soft rock phosphate.
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Re: Darkstar, Yum Yum, & Excelerite! And Good Morning Brother!
I'm in the process of chopping and will post some pictures in a bit after I trim the rest of the buds and give them a three part wash.
I'm in the process of chopping and will post some pictures in a bit after I trim the rest of the buds and give them a three part wash.
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Almost done... Just need to wash. If you are expecting a giant plant recall that even though I take most of my pictures in the greenhouse I'm a micro-grower and need to fit flowering plants into a 18"x24" footprint. Wish I'd pushed the Darkstar a little more in veg but I'm still getting maxing-out the space down. I think I'm looking at ~ 1.5 oz. In the mean time, here is a photo retrospective of Darkstar Maude.
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Set up a chopping station by the cab and cranked up the 6" vortex to full for odor control. Took a brix reading from some remaining fans. Hanging in there at 17.0 / 17.25.
Sorry, I didn't realize that this hunk of cola looks like what's inside a man's pants until I saw the picture on the monitor
All the final nug shots are post-wash in lemon water solution followed by H2O2 soulution and finally straight RO water. I tried to get a root ball picture but it was difficult to get the roots out of the fabric pot... Many were torn away. The fabric pot did a great job of preventing root-bind - one of the reasons extracting the root ball was difficult.
Sorry, I didn't realize that this hunk of cola looks like what's inside a man's pants until I saw the picture on the monitor
All the final nug shots are post-wash in lemon water solution followed by H2O2 soulution and finally straight RO water. I tried to get a root ball picture but it was difficult to get the roots out of the fabric pot... Many were torn away. The fabric pot did a great job of preventing root-bind - one of the reasons extracting the root ball was difficult.
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