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Pawpaw Medicine Tent 2.0 Perpetual Grow Journal
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Savvage61
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really @Bill284 ? You think Im that kinda person? you think I have no moral compass ? with no honor? after all the grows we been thru man Im sad
BUT your right Im lying sure as worm poop lol Ill be 62 but today 62 is yesterdays 38
Thank Buddy it is actully on fri the 26th same birthday as John Wayne and Stevie Nicks 2 very awesome people
BUT your right Im lying sure as worm poop lol Ill be 62 but today 62 is yesterdays 38
Thank Buddy it is actully on fri the 26th same birthday as John Wayne and Stevie Nicks 2 very awesome people
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Hery guys I gave it the tea with the living microbes last night I noticed they look like they started to grow again. well it is confirmed they are growing again. and I belive Im going thru the phase @Gee64 was talking about the " I think they look better maybe??? lol off course it doesnt help when I check on them every hour. Geesh I wonder if ill ever out grow that stage
@Gee64 I got this off the ZON
Thanks Everyone
@Gee64 I got this off the ZON
GS Plant Foods Organic Liquid Fish 36 oz Hydrolyzed Fish Fertilizer for Plants
Right stuff?Thanks Everyone
Gee64
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It sounds like the right stuff
. Just follow the recommended mixing instructions and add about 1 litre of mixed up solution to each plant after watering about every 2nd watering and it should work perfectly. No need to ph it.
. Just follow the recommended mixing instructions and add about 1 litre of mixed up solution to each plant after watering about every 2nd watering and it should work perfectly. No need to ph it.- Thread starter
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@Gee64 that brings up a couple questions
are you using the ACi nfinity sip now?
1. I have been PHing the water I add to the SIP reservoir. am I wasting my time since it will start to drift toward 7.0 anyway??
2. I did not PH the TEA but everything else that goes in at the top is PH to 6.2 - 6.3 or close. I have grown in bags before so I have an idea what it takes to get run off . But I do NOT want run off So I have Never gave it anything more that a quart/liter , about half of what I would water a plant before the SIP
3. ok here is a myth or magic question. is there any advantage to using a Air Stone in a SIP?
4. (last one im sorry) I removed one of the wicks from 2 plants when I thought they were being over watered. will that be a problem? would I cause a problem if I took the plant off the sip while I replace it?
Im sorry to bombard ya , at least we are giving Bill284 a break he is the one who helps when im running around with my hair on fire.
are you using the ACi nfinity sip now?
1. I have been PHing the water I add to the SIP reservoir. am I wasting my time since it will start to drift toward 7.0 anyway??
2. I did not PH the TEA but everything else that goes in at the top is PH to 6.2 - 6.3 or close. I have grown in bags before so I have an idea what it takes to get run off . But I do NOT want run off So I have Never gave it anything more that a quart/liter , about half of what I would water a plant before the SIP
3. ok here is a myth or magic question. is there any advantage to using a Air Stone in a SIP?
4. (last one im sorry) I removed one of the wicks from 2 plants when I thought they were being over watered. will that be a problem? would I cause a problem if I took the plant off the sip while I replace it?
Im sorry to bombard ya , at least we are giving Bill284 a break he is the one who helps when im running around with my hair on fire.
Gee64
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Im not sure how your nutrients work so I wouldn't want to tell you to stop phing something that is working for you but the fish ferts are mainly for the fungii and not the plant directly so you don't need to ph it. Myco fungii will deal with it.@Gee64 that brings up a couple questions
are you using the ACi nfinity sip now?
1. I have been PHing the water I add to the SIP reservoir. am I wasting my time since it will start to drift toward 7.0 anyway??
2. I did not PH the TEA but everything else that goes in at the top is PH to 6.2 - 6.3 or close. I have grown in bags before so I have an idea what it takes to get run off . But I do NOT want run off So I have Never gave it anything more that a quart/liter , about half of what I would water a plant before the SIP
3. ok here is a myth or magic question. is there any advantage to using a Air Stone in a SIP?
4. (last one im sorry) I removed one of the wicks from 2 plants when I thought they were being over watered. will that be a problem? would I cause a problem if I took the plant off the sip while I replace it?
Im sorry to bombard ya , at least we are giving Bill284 a break he is the one who helps when im running around with my hair on fire.
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Well I can say I have been schooled this week. Now ya gotta understand I like to keep my journal fun to read so I will make some really wacked jokes. a lot of time I pick on myself and bring up stuff like boiling my EWC lol well I can say after learning my lessons this week truly make feel really stupid. well a better word is Ignorant.. But thats good you guys have given me more knowledge I knew going into truly organic with LOS and using a SIP for the first time I would face some challenges while I did and with you guys I belive I (We) truly over came it. Thank you for your time and advice, and Kindness to share
ok so I gave them the TEA I believe it was later Tues and very early friday I used a qt/liter each time as not to over water
The EWC is getting that Crust like @Gee64 said it would so I run a bonsai rake and loosen everything back up so it can take in air and water . I added about a 25% strength cal mag 1/4 tsp per gallon. now I am STOPPING the Cannabis Calcium Blitzkrieg. and the rest of the week I will use a spray bottle to keep my EWC moist. GEE64 didnt you say that somewhat simulates how the soil is treated with Rain
the first pic Thought they would die week 5 of veg and my plants looked liike crap less than a week earlier they were pristine and growing so very fast it was like overnight she did a 360. I do not enjoy spending 4 months with sickly plants
Well then I got some reply's Ghee64 and Reservoir dog, Bill284 , Carmen ray and anyone else . I could not have asked better people Gee you saved me I thought they were over watered so not only was I starving them to desk I denied them H20.. this is a lesson I will always remember. I been growing about 2 yrs. I have learned So much I am growing decent weed with Geo Flora and Fox Farm soil. I dont want to grow OK pot I wanna grow top shelf . and I belive to be come that type of grower it takes practice and training periods are 4 months long
Thank you guys for all the help now maybe we sit by and watch them grow awhile.
Ill bb with a update soon til then
STAY STONED & STAY SAFE
DONT DRINK AND DRIVE
ok so I gave them the TEA I believe it was later Tues and very early friday I used a qt/liter each time as not to over water
The EWC is getting that Crust like @Gee64 said it would so I run a bonsai rake and loosen everything back up so it can take in air and water . I added about a 25% strength cal mag 1/4 tsp per gallon. now I am STOPPING the Cannabis Calcium Blitzkrieg. and the rest of the week I will use a spray bottle to keep my EWC moist. GEE64 didnt you say that somewhat simulates how the soil is treated with Rain
the first pic Thought they would die week 5 of veg and my plants looked liike crap less than a week earlier they were pristine and growing so very fast it was like overnight she did a 360. I do not enjoy spending 4 months with sickly plants
Well then I got some reply's Ghee64 and Reservoir dog, Bill284 , Carmen ray and anyone else . I could not have asked better people Gee you saved me I thought they were over watered so not only was I starving them to desk I denied them H20.. this is a lesson I will always remember. I been growing about 2 yrs. I have learned So much I am growing decent weed with Geo Flora and Fox Farm soil. I dont want to grow OK pot I wanna grow top shelf . and I belive to be come that type of grower it takes practice and training periods are 4 months long
Thank you guys for all the help now maybe we sit by and watch them grow awhile.
Ill bb with a update soon til then
STAY STONED & STAY SAFE
DONT DRINK AND DRIVE
Gee64
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I hope things are greening up. Don't over do it though. Your soil should be fixed by the 2 doses of calmag, the tea will bring lots of microlife and nutrients that are ready to eat, and then the EWC top dressings with the fish ferts will take you a long way. Just be ready for flower by having some good flowering top dressing around to fatten the flowers up.
I should mention that you shouldn't keep left over tea. If you don't use it all dump the rest in house plants or your lawn or veggie garden but don't keep it as it can go bad quickly.
I should mention that you shouldn't keep left over tea. If you don't use it all dump the rest in house plants or your lawn or veggie garden but don't keep it as it can go bad quickly.
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well I have my second dose of Tea boiling with air lol a lot of the green is coming back and it is very intresting some leaves were completely yellow with the Calmag and EWC you can follow how the nutes travel up the leave and the line breaks left and right slowly adding the color back to the fingers of the leaves and so on .Nature is amazing even in the simple ways.
Happy Memorial day for those of us who celebrate it
@Gee64 How often should I replenish the EWC ? (top dressing) after im back to green, if I keep the EWC and top water it once a week will that keep my calcium to desired levels? my fish ferts wiill be here June 6th
see you all tomorrow
Happy Memorial day for those of us who celebrate it
@Gee64 How often should I replenish the EWC ? (top dressing) after im back to green, if I keep the EWC and top water it once a week will that keep my calcium to desired levels? my fish ferts wiill be here June 6th
see you all tomorrow
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How often depends on how fast your plant is growing and how strong your soil is in the microbe/fungii dept. Usually about every 2 weeks. As the soil gets healthier the plant will grow faster so the EWC will get used quicker. You will notice it goes down and starts to look more like potting soil as it gets eaten so top it up again. As the plant grows you will need to add it more frequently. You can't really over do it with EWC just make sure to crumble it up if it crusts. I'm glad the health is restoringwell I have my second dose of Tea boiling with air lol a lot of the green is coming back and it is very intresting some leaves were completely yellow with the Calmag and EWC you can follow how the nutes travel up the leave and the line breaks left and right slowly adding the color back to the fingers of the leaves and so on .Nature is amazing even in the simple ways.
Happy Memorial day for those of us who celebrate it
@Gee64 How often should I replenish the EWC ? (top dressing) after im back to green, if I keep the EWC and top water it once a week will that keep my calcium to desired levels? my fish ferts wiill be here June 6th
see you all tomorrow
. Keep us posted on how things are coming along
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I started PHing everything since my very first decencies I have been doing PH for the water to fill my SIPs. am I wasting my time? the PH is always going to drift to 7.0 that and knowing when exposed to air it will change PH. so does it do any good? @Costanza , hey bud I figured this would be a perfect question for you lol or any other SIPPERS
well I learned some good lesson although I fgeel im about 2 weeks behind I was hoping to flip this week but the way things look it is going to be 2 or 3 weeks
Herer is today I just finished Tucking and weaving and starting to train the plant. I spread everythout to open the middle of every plant in a short time I will clean out the bottom once I get a little more coverage over the net I would clean them now But I will wait for them to heal up before I remove all the leaves under the net. so it can focus on what is growing above the net . this will most likely cost me another weak to bounce back. I tried rushing my last grow and got a measly 7 oz of smoke the one before this was over 11 ounces my goal is 1 pound. the key is to do the best job I have done to date. kind of scary when you have serious problems in veg. I feel very confident that these gals will produce quality and quantity. all of you have been a huge help between the SIP and the LOS I feel like this is my first grow. even after growing for the last 2 yrs. But I know some of you have been growing a long time and I bet you would also say you learn something new everytime
all are growing str4ong except this one the "Apollo" Sativia I found the issue when I today when I was breaking up the top dress and I found root ends that were growing right under the EWC some broken They only thing I could think to do wass to add more soil Hopefully that will fix it
well I learned some good lesson although I fgeel im about 2 weeks behind I was hoping to flip this week but the way things look it is going to be 2 or 3 weeks
Herer is today I just finished Tucking and weaving and starting to train the plant. I spread everythout to open the middle of every plant in a short time I will clean out the bottom once I get a little more coverage over the net I would clean them now But I will wait for them to heal up before I remove all the leaves under the net. so it can focus on what is growing above the net . this will most likely cost me another weak to bounce back. I tried rushing my last grow and got a measly 7 oz of smoke the one before this was over 11 ounces my goal is 1 pound. the key is to do the best job I have done to date. kind of scary when you have serious problems in veg. I feel very confident that these gals will produce quality and quantity. all of you have been a huge help between the SIP and the LOS I feel like this is my first grow. even after growing for the last 2 yrs. But I know some of you have been growing a long time and I bet you would also say you learn something new everytime
all are growing str4ong except this one the "Apollo" Sativia I found the issue when I today when I was breaking up the top dress and I found root ends that were growing right under the EWC some broken They only thing I could think to do wass to add more soil Hopefully that will fix it
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Savvage61
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@Gee64 would you mind answering some questions about the PH in a SIP do you PH the water before you add it to the reservoir? also do you ever check the PH in the reservoir its self? I must be missing something I expected using the LOS would be pretty simple it seems like as soon as I get one plant on track another goes all wonky on me. some of it maybe my calcium bomb I exploded on them possibly adding to much water/poop tea in a short period of time when ever I add anything on top I ph it to 6.2-6.3 ish and I only use a liter at a time (that might be to much to add to a sip.) I feel like a idiot I never had issues in Veg, even on my first grow. it maybe like you warned me about with the leaves drooping and the ends clawing. the LOS and a SIP for the first time has been worse than the first week of basic training. I would appreciate any advice or tips that might help me get this grow under control.
Thx
Savvage
* ok this one really blows my mind I went to break-up the EWC top dressing ( about 1 in) as i mixed it I found a lot of root pieces
Thx
Savvage
* ok this one really blows my mind I went to break-up the EWC top dressing ( about 1 in) as i mixed it I found a lot of root pieces
Gee64
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I don't ph anything. I would try running your sip reservoir at a lower level and see if maybe your soil is too wet. I never used a SIP, only a SWICK system but they are similar. I found too wet and no calcium up top to be the 2 biggest issues.
Thanks for the tag, @Gee64 .
Some do, some don't, but you shouldn't have to pH anything for an organic grow since the microbes control all of that. For a bottle grow, yes you probably would want to check and control for pH.
I'll go back and read the thread from the beginning and get caught up.
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Tell me more about your local source of Azomite. I have read that it is essentially a rock dust mined from a single deposit in Western US.
Is there some plant that's a good substitute for the mined stuff?
I'd offer an addendum to ResDog's thoughts here.
Many municipalities have started to add chloramine instead of, or in addition to, chlorine to their water supplies to better kill microbes since the chloramine doesn't off-gas like chlorine does. Soooo, if your municipality is one of those cutting edge type forward thinkers and adds that version to your water supply, simply leaving your water in an open bucket overnight won't get the job done.
For that, regular Vitamin C tablets from the drugstore can be used to precipitate both chlorine and chloramine out of solution in minutes. Won't hurt the plants either, though you'll be using so little of it it likely wouldn't even register.