Pawpaw Medicine Tent 2.0 Perpetual Grow Journal

[Savvage61]

Ill be honest ijm a bit under the weather , im trying to adapt to new diabetes meds it has been a rough 2 weeks. Thank God for Weed nothing like smoking a doobie to calm the stomach and give you a appetite. any way the STD from my last grow smells and taste like tangerine much better than Kaopectate,
any way Im not going to say how awesone the IndiCanja is and the SIP is teaching me how much water to give a plant. I wont brag ill just show

ya. notice how the runt is now bigger than the other Grimm Truffle middle left hand side . you can see the apollo is just out of control all have been topped one time now I just have to wait till I can start filling the net

 

[Bill284]

Ill be honest ijm a bit under the weather , im trying to adapt to new diabetes meds it has been a rough 2 weeks. Thank God for Weed nothing like smoking a doobie to calm the stomach and give you a appetite. any way the STD from my last grow smells and taste like tangerine much better than Kaopectate,
any way Im not going to say how awesone the IndiCanja is and the SIP is teaching me how much water to give a plant. I wont brag ill just show

ya. notice how the runt is now bigger than the other Grimm Truffle middle left hand side . you can see the apollo is just out of control all have been topped one time now I just have to wait till I can start filling the net

Looking good Amigo.
Hope your doing well.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[Savvage61]

still ha

Looking good Amigo.
Hope your doing well.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

still having issues I went all week with my bloodsugar dropping to 50 every hour no matter how much sugar I had OREOs, Ice Cream, lil Debbie's all the things i cant eat gonna go back to the doc and see WTF I can do
How about you my friend hope all is well
talk soon

 

[Bill284]

still ha

still having issues I went all week with my bloodsugar dropping to 50 every hour no matter how much sugar I had OREOs, Ice Cream, lil Debbie's all the things i cant eat gonna go back to the doc and see WTF I can do
How about you my friend hope all is well
talk soon

I'm OK not going to complain.
Can always be worse right?
You get that taken care of.
Put your foot down, stop letting your doc fek you around.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[Savvage61]

this is one week since my last pic I will be putting up the net soon 27"inches off the floor . that will get my 2" above the AC in order to minimize the growing space I lose from the AC . Gorillia Tents have a 12" top extention if I move to a taller room I can add that top room and raise my ac well above my light. this week I need to start getting ready to clean out the little growth. * @Bill284 is so correct about pinching leaves keep as many leaves as possibile if you look down at the middle plant on the bottom you can see where I cut away part of the leaf so the growth underneath gets light well my friends I will be back soon take care stay stoned stay safe

 

[Bill284]

this is one week since my last pic I will be putting up the net soon 27"inches off the floor . that will get my 2" above the AC in order to minimize the growing space I lose from the AC . Gorillia Tents have a 12" top extention if I move to a taller room I can add that top room and raise my ac well above my light. this week I need to start getting ready to clean out the little growth. * @Bill284 is so correct about pinching leaves keep as many leaves as possibile if you look down at the middle plant on the bottom you can see where I cut away part of the leaf so the growth underneath gets light well my friends I will be back soon take care stay stoned stay safe

Thick healthy girls.
Hope your doing well.
Take care.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[Savvage61]

hey guys new week starting week 5 and one thing I can say is Purple Cows IndiCanja living soil is off the hook am using the CX-1 once week basicly an organic tea that boost growth and feeds Microbes I feed everything (CX-1 and water) in the SIP and also use the Cx-1 as a foliar spray when I fill the sips * there is a bit of a learning curve to using a sip it varies from plant to plant I need to add water at least 1 time every 2 days or more. this pick is 2 days old 3 out of 4 are at the net. my goal now is to start training and weaving the branches thru and under the net . after about a week ill be able to get an idea which way everything is growing and what will be producers. think I will clean out under the net leaving nothing but bare branches under the net and a lush green Canopy and fill everyone of those 88 boxes with colas and buds

The pot from my last grow is really good pot here is a small bud I broke open very dense almost rock hard bud. mo9st buds are bigger this one was handy when you hit it for the first time you can taste the Tangerine .. now if you dont mind im gonna get some of that Sour Tangy Dawg vitamin THC

cough.... cough later friends....cough

 

[Savvage61]

Hey guys been a rough week in real life but I hope life is normal again.Im doing things a little diffrent this time I usually clear out the underneath little by little. I belive it would cause a stunt in growth this time I will defoil the under belly a few weeks before I switch to 12/12

@Costanza Im finding a bit of a learning curve using the sip ,
1. I have 1 plant top center it will go from full to halfway overnight requiring me to top it off about every day. is that normal ? the bigger they get the more water she takes , which I knew but I didnt realize how much
2. is it even possible to overwater just using a sip

pic above 5 days older than the image below

If you look close the leaves on the sativa are leaning or droopy. the first thing you think of is over watering But I never top fed or watered anything except one time a week I add a liter of (CX-1 organic tea ) from the top the indica are doing great and in a couple hrs the sativa will look good and healthy till the lights go out do you have any idea if that is a strain thing or normal?

The purple cow IndiCanja is amazing so far I am starting to get some burnt tips I talked to the inventor of the indicanja Robert about the burnt tips. he said that it means everything is working right and apparently thats normal with some strains especially sativas leaves are more sensitive than the bulky fat indica leaves.


Ill be on my normal times from now on I hope @Costanza if you can offer any tips or changes I should make please Im open for suggestions

everyone stay safe , stay stoned

 

[Costanza]

Hey guys been a rough week in real life but I hope life is normal again.Im doing things a little diffrent this time I usually clear out the underneath little by little. I belive it would cause a stunt in growth this time I will defoil the under belly a few weeks before I switch to 12/12

@Costanza Im finding a bit of a learning curve using the sip ,
1. I have 1 plant top center it will go from full to halfway overnight requiring me to top it off about every day. is that normal ? the bigger they get the more water she takes , which I knew but I didnt realize how much
2. is it even possible to overwater just using a sip?

If you look close the leaves on the sativa are leaning or droopy. the first thing you think of is over watering But I never top fed or watered anything except one time a week I add a liter of (CX-1 organic tea ) from the top the indica are doing great and in a couple hrs the sativa will look good and healthy till the lights go out do you have any idea if that is a strain thing or normal?

The purple cow IndiCanja is amazing so far I am starting to get some burnt tips I talked to the inventor of the indicanja Robert about the burnt tips. he said that it means everything is working right and apparently thats normal with some strains especially sativas leaves are more sensitive than the bulky fat indica leaves.


Ill be on my normal times from now on I hope @Costanza if you can offer any tips or changes I should make please Im open for suggestions

everyone stay safe , stay stoned

Hey what's up buddy I had issues with the sip pots as well and went back to regular risers and saucers on my current grow, hope all is well I havent been on as much I've been busy trying to keep the peace in my house I just added a cat to the family and the dog isn't too sure about him yet so I've had my hands full. Here are some pics of the two freeloaders

 

[Carmen Ray]

Hey what's up buddy I had issues with the sip pots as well and went back to regular risers and saucers on my current grow, hope all is well I havent been on as much I've been busy trying to keep the peace in my house I just added a cat to the family and the dog isn't too sure about him yet so I've had my hands full. Here are some pics of the two freeloaders

mean freeloader eyes these two

Hey Savvage, I've found you

 

[Savvage61]

@Costanza hey bud sorry to bother again what kind of issues did you have? Im getting overwatered I am considering removing a wick from each one. what other issues await me?
thx

 

[KeithLemon]

Hey what's up buddy I had issues with the sip pots as well and went back to regular risers and saucers on my current grow, hope all is well I havent been on as much I've been busy trying to keep the peace in my house I just added a cat to the family and the dog isn't too sure about him yet so I've had my hands full. Here are some pics of the two freeloaders

Cool looking cat and dog that kitten will keep that old pup gpoing.

 

[Costanza]

@Costanza hey bud sorry to bother again what kind of issues did you have? Im getting overwatered I am considering removing a wick from each one. what other issues await me?
thx

I had issues with build up and had a lockout around week 3 of flower on the blueberry in my 3x3. I think they work great in veg but I dont like them for flowering when the plants start to transition to flower they build up too much nitrogen in the root zone and the sips imo do not saturate the medium enough and the plants take in too much nutrients.

 

[Savvage61]

Can I get a second opinion I swear These plants are over watered I feck up by over water more time than I like to count. My gut and Eyes and even google says they look over watered But They are in a sip being bottom watered only. the AC Infinity SIP has two water wicks on the 2 sativa I removed 1 wick decreasing their water intake not only am I drooping growth has slowed a lot and yes @Bill284 thats me laying naked in the dirt but its ok it'S organic and Im all about Nature.
so anyone else think it is over watering?
@Costanza I feel ya man we just got a new puppie in the house for the grandkids we have a old part German shepherd female and my lil baby Precious Marie a 4 yr old chiweenie AKA ankle biter, this puppy is messing with the 2 female's you know like hanging off the ear or trying to feed on a tit thats been dry all her life Our house is a wild zone not to mention the pee puddles and poop piles 2 days ago i GOT OUT OF BED AND STUCK MY BARE FOOT IN A PILE OF SHIT THAT OZZED THRU MY TOES

 

[Bill284]

Can I get a second opinion I swear These plants are over watered I feck up by over water more time than I like to count. My gut and Eyes and even google says they look over watered But They are in a sip being bottom watered only. the AC Infinity SIP has two water wicks on the 2 sativa I removed 1 wick decreasing their water intake not only am I drooping growth has slowed a lot and yes @Bill284 thats me laying naked in the dirt but its ok it'S organic and Im all about Nature.
so anyone else think it is over watering?
@Costanza I feel ya man we just got a new puppie in the house for the grandkids we have a old part German shepherd female and my lil baby Precious Marie a 4 yr old chiweenie AKA ankle biter, this puppy is messing with the 2 female's you know like hanging off the ear or trying to feed on a tit thats been dry all her life Our house is a wild zone not to mention the pee puddles and poop piles 2 days ago i GOT OUT OF BED AND STUCK MY BARE FOOT IN A PILE OF SHIT THAT OZZED THRU MY TOES

I want to see pics.
The puppy not your toes.
Ok have you got the roots established in the sip?
I have no idea, don't run sip.
But they are overwartered and having difficulty picking up nutrients.
So starving at the same time.
Possibly let more air accumulate in the sip.
Don't totally fill it?
And dry the soil on top more.
You feeding full strength nutrients correct?
Do you ph in a sip?
See I don't know.
@ReservoirDog is a SIPaholic Possibly he could give an expert opinion.
Because I'm just guessen wit a sip.
But a semi educated guess.



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Bill284

 

[ReservoirDog]

Sorry guys and gals, these AC Infinity wicking trays aren’t really my ball o yarn. Do you just make contact along the pot-bottom with the wick or bring it up into the medium? I find that my SIP plants adjust early to the extra moisture, and afterwards take it in stride, but there are big differences between my SIPs and the AC wick-pot tray design.

I think Carmen-the-SWICK could likely help, even if he/she/they spends life living upside-down in the S.hemisphere, somehow they can make anything work down there just like it does up here.

Witchcraft, I assume.

 

[Carmen Ray]

Hi @Savvage61 I have tried to read back a bit and get a sense of how your wicking plates work etc. Are those plants on the wicking plates the ones with the perlite base below your LOS? The plants should be as perky as, not drooping. They are definitely getting too much water / getting hungry.

I think it is the perlite in the pots that may be the problem. That will wick the water faster than the soil I think and remain soggy, therefore wicking too much water to the soil. The perlite acts as a giant wick and the roots adapt to a semi-hydro situation and produce roots that live in the perlite, so that perhaps the plants are not deriving their nutes from the soil as they should? I'd remove some of the external wicking material so that it wicks slower to the perlite and see if that helps. This is purely guesswork though.

I'd call on @Gee64 who has experimented widely on watering techniques to weigh in. I actually took my pots off the perlite wicks and used cloth wicks instead, cut from absorbent dishcloth and fabric pots. That wasn't due to over-watering though. I just found working with the perlite a messy business.

In the meantime, look at some of the work in the SWICK club. There's some great stuff on roots. The link is in my signature.

 

[Gee64]

Hi Savage61. I too experienced almost the exact scenario you are going through. Its a calcium thing. Calcium always moves down and in Living Soil the main way to offset that problem is to add EWC as a top dressing.

EWC is loaded with calcium. It MUST be top watered in to be effective.

I ran plants side by side, some had the EWC top watered and some not. The sips/swicks that had the EWC top watered in gently flourished and the ones that had EWC but were only bottom watered turned very light similar to yours.

Once calcium becomes deficient magnesium takes over as your main electrolyte in the soil. When that happens nitrogen gets locked out and it turns into what you have....very hungry looking plants.

If you have some cal/mag a mild dose of that will help but don't mix it strong.

When it gets into the soil magnesium immediately gets put in check and nitrogen, which comes from the air, rushes in and can mildly overdose for a day or 2 and you may see some leaves claw as the color comes back. Too much cal/mag at once can cause nitrogen toxicity under these circumstances.

I would also give them some hydrolysed fish fertilizer a few hours after the cal/mag to make the myco happy and destress the plants.

Then put a nice thick 1 inch layer of EWC on top and gently, very gently, water it in daily. Just enough water to fully wet the ewc but not water the plant. Nature uses rain for this purpose so try to mimick that.

Then in 3 days repeat the cal/mag and fish ferts. After that just keep moistening the top daily and add EWC when needed. Use the fish ferts exactly as the mixing instructions state and use them once a week until 2 weeks before harvest when your plants start to change color for the finish. The fish ferts are for your myco fungii mostly, not really for the plant.

If the EWC starts to cake or crust on top break it up into crumble so air doesn't get choked. Usually after breaking it up twice it will stop caking.

My final conclusion is that bottom watering is very effective but if you are growing in cloth pots with LOS you still need a calcium source top watered in.

 

[ReservoirDog]

Good stuff, Gee, really helpful and fits with various scenarios I recall. The best 'deficiency' treatment I have come across to date, and I don't even bother trying to sort out which element is short anymore because its usually not a deficiency in that element but a conflict with overuse of a different element. Anyway, my poison of choice is an aerated worm castings tea that I feed a little bit of GL Sweet Candy to bump the numbers up, mixed with a gram of my septic field treatment bacteria mix. (yeah, I grow with drain cleaner - what about it?! lol).

I'm quite invested into worm castings, however, as they are my inexpensive entry into LOS/TLO weed. I have 12 busboy-totes now, taking up an entire shelf unit and more, with I dunno how many 100s of wrigglers in each bin. I feed them a specific diet only of special accumulator plants only that I've transplanted onto my property over the last two years into my "fertilizer forest" We've got Nettles, comfrey, horsetail, azomite, free crustacean shells from connections down at the docks, fresh-picked bull kelp, powdered eggshell, leftover brownrice cakes from growing mushrooms, and now I added malted wheat seeds that I taught myself how to malt, also grape must (leftover product from making plonk with homegrown grapes), cannabis shake, spirulina, endomycos, and some other secret ingredients. All elements are either grown here, or gathered within 1km of home for free, or leftover from a different hobby (mushrooms). I put them all in a blender, add some knf tonics, and blend into a fine slurry, then pour into x-large ice cube trays and freeze. For feeding just drop some cubes in and the worms go nuts for it. You won't have to screen the castings afterward because the food sources are such small pieces now and they consume food/produce castings much, much faster with this method. Definitely recommend.

I mix 3-4 parts plain, unspectacular garden soil with 1 part EWC and two-plus parts perlite or chopped-up dead cattail stalks that are at least a year old. They aerate the soil quite well. Just experimenting with what's available.

I had a lot of fun putting that whole EWC system together. It's super easy, and you can start small and add trays as situation permits. The resultant EWC from this mix is amazingly powerful stuff compared to 'normal EWC', and the normal stuff is already awesome for weed. Just sharing because its working out so well for me. Takes time and planning, but if you live somewhere stable, I really recommend it. I can't imagine paying for all those LOS amendments, and we'll see how I do but the small SIP plant I grew already in these castings alone is without a doubt the strongest weed I've developed thus far. The stuff is... whoah.

Anyone wanting to experiment is welcome to PM me for details.
okay, here's your thread back pawpaw! thanks for indulging me, I'm feeling rather evangelical about my special worm poop. I bet even a wee bag from the store would help you right away, and tea made from it would sort you out even faster. Best to you.

 

[Carmen Ray]

mixed with a gram of my septic field treatment bacteria mix. (yeah, I grow with drain cleaner - what about it?! lol).

Please do tell. I have drain issues and the plumber suggested using a bacterial drain cleaner, which I now do. I'm curious. I'd like to know more.