Pawpaw Medicine Tent 2.0 Perpetual Grow Journal

Please do tell. I have drain issues and the plumber suggested using a bacterial drain cleaner, which I now do. I'm curious. I'd like to know more.
Well... I was doing some research on different biotech ideas a couple of years ago and found that waste-water treatment utilized a bacterial mix that was ultimately ideal for growers. Microbes tend to be grouped into classes organized by what they use as a primary food source, and/or the excretion enzymes they produce for external digestion of said substances. For cleaning pipes and storage tanks, or anything containing primarily human waste, you need microbes that can break down fats, proteins, lignums and cellulose, as this makes up the bulk of material... er, 'down there'. This is also what makes up much of what you find in soils.

I found that most commercial products developed for treating sewage systems were a selection of these microbes, often sprayed onto different kinds of finely ground seed bran - essentially the same as "bokashi" which is typically just a single microbe, "Lactus Bacillus", also impregnated into rice or wheat bran. The bran keeps the numbers stable, a physical surface to house them and an emergency food source - but they remain primarily in a sporulated form, or 'asleep' as it were, when dry. Drop a scoop in water and they multiply, get active, and get chomping. Chomping that breaks proteins, lignums, cellulose and fats into their base mineral elements that plants can uptake as food.

It's important to understand that these microbes cannot possibly do harm to living tissues of any kind and pose no threat to human or plant health, really only benefits. That said, it will be important to confirm that any sewage-targeted product you are considering has not been mixed with some strange chemical as your usage scenario is, "off-label", but most are merely bacterial cells/spores and a fine bran of some kind. Some are in thin rice-paper-like sacks for flushing, but the one I use is just applied with a scoop and a flush... or just a scoop-and-dump if applying to a plugged toilet, which happens frequently at my house. It takes 36 hrs for the beasties to unplug the toilet, which, is a real bonus since I only bought the stuff for my plants in the first place!
 
WOW YOU GUYS ARE LIFE SAVERS ! I got about 80 lb of EWC. I was debating wether or not to nix the SIP But it was working so good The growth was blowing me away. I am a bit out of my comfort ,zone First time with Living soil and a SIP. I really over looked the learning curve ,
You guys have no idea How much I appreciate the Help. I will add the EWC in the A.M. and let ya know how they are in a few days
 
Hi Savage61. I too experienced almost the exact scenario you are going through. Its a calcium thing. Calcium always moves down and in Living Soil the main way to offset that problem is to add EWC as a top dressing.

EWC is loaded with calcium. It MUST be top watered in to be effective.

I ran plants side by side, some had the EWC top watered and some not. The sips/swicks that had the EWC top watered in gently flourished and the ones that had EWC but were only bottom watered turned very light similar to yours.

Once calcium becomes deficient magnesium takes over as your main electrolyte in the soil. When that happens nitrogen gets locked out and it turns into what you have....very hungry looking plants.

If you have some cal/mag a mild dose of that will help but don't mix it strong.

When it gets into the soil magnesium immediately gets put in check and nitrogen, which comes from the air, rushes in and can mildly overdose for a day or 2 and you may see some leaves claw as the color comes back. Too much cal/mag at once can cause nitrogen toxicity under these circumstances.

I would also give them some hydrolysed fish fertilizer a few hours after the cal/mag to make the myco happy and destress the plants.

Then put a nice thick 1 inch layer of EWC on top and gently, very gently, water it in daily. Just enough water to fully wet the ewc but not water the plant. Nature uses rain for this purpose so try to mimick that.

Then in 3 days repeat the cal/mag and fish ferts. After that just keep moistening the top daily and add EWC when needed. Use the fish ferts exactly as the mixing instructions state and use them once a week until 2 weeks before harvest when your plants start to change color for the finish. The fish ferts are for your myco fungii mostly, not really for the plant.

If the EWC starts to cake or crust on top break it up into crumble so air doesn't get choked. Usually after breaking it up twice it will stop caking.

My final conclusion is that bottom watering is very effective but if you are growing in cloth pots with LOS you still need a calcium source top watered in.
That was very helpful Gee64 I top dressed the girls first thing this morning. Im going to mix up some cal mag well I have cal/mag plus Ill mix it at 1/2 tsp for a gallon half of what it calls for and give each plant about quart/liter.
Do I need to replace the EWC as needed and continue till harvest? Purple cow has a liquid mix called cx1 and Im suppose to use it once every 7-10 days you have to activate before you use it, with Molasses, im also using coconut sugar and the Purple cow super charger here is a link CX1 LIFE I think this will do the same as the fish Fert if you dont mind would you check it out ? I dont want to over do it I really owe @Carmen Ray he called in the right people thank you.
oh one more thing Im guessing it will take week before I notice any difference is that enough time to see if its working

@ReservoirDog I really enjoyed your sermon it was very informative I am starting to appreciate EWC even more that Im doing the organic thing , Im gonna make up about a gallon of tea here in VA we can only have 4 plants.
how would you recommend for me to make it ? Just add the EWC bring it to a boil and let it sit? one thing for sure I will never tell anybody in the house that Im cooking up some worm poop tea My wife and daughter-in-law would Kill me after they passed out lol

I cant thank you guys enough
Savvage61

 
That was very helpful Gee64 I top dressed the girls first thing this morning. Im going to mix up some cal mag well I have cal/mag plus Ill mix it at 1/2 tsp for a gallon half of what it calls for and give each plant about quart/liter.
Do I need to replace the EWC as needed and continue till harvest?
I use it constantly. Every couple of weeks-ish I add more until late flower. Once the plant starts to wind down to harvest theres not much point in adding more.
Purple cow has a liquid mix called cx1 and Im suppose to use it once every 7-10 days you have to activate before you use it, with Molasses, im also using coconut sugar and the Purple cow super charger here is a link CX1 LIFE I think this will do the same as the fish Fert if you dont mind would you check it out ? I dont want to over do it
Its a seaweed fert, which is excellent stuff, but mostly used as a tea. I can see the logic in combining it with the cx-1. It should work really well. Hydrolized fish ferts, not fish emulsion, is different. It has a higher nitrogen content but what it really has is a massive variety of amino acids. Aminos are the building blocks of proteins and your plant is made of protein. You really can't beat a steady low dose of hydrolysed fish ferts. The fungii/microbes love the aminos too and really love the omega oils in it. I use a kelp tea with fish ferts in it at least once a grow, usually in veg when the plant demands extra aminos to grow quickly and then just fish ferts and water every 2nd or 3rd watering. EWC brings more good things so for you using ewc, the purple cow products, and low dose fish when watering, you would pretty much have all your bases coverd except in flower you may want to add some flowering top dressings. The Purple cow products arent a replacement for fish ferts but will compliment the fish ferts really well. The fungii above all really likes the fish ferts.

Dont let the EWC cake up, make sure you gently crumble it up after a couple days or it will choke oxygen out on the surface.

You will see what I mean. Right before watering when its drier poke all your fingers into it gently and crumble it. Then level it out. Do that twice a few days apart and it will stop caking.
I really owe @Carmen Ray he called in the right people thank you.
oh one more thing Im guessing it will take week before I notice any difference is that enough time to see if its working

@ReservoirDog I really enjoyed your sermon it was very informative I am starting to appreciate EWC even more that Im doing the organic thing , Im gonna make up about a gallon of tea here in VA we can only have 4 plants.
how would you recommend for me to make it ? Just add the EWC bring it to a boil and let it sit?
RD you got this one?🤣
one thing for sure I will never tell anybody in the house that Im cooking up some worm poop tea My wife and daughter-in-law would Kill me after they passed out lol
Mine would too🤣
I cant thank you guys enough
Savvage61

 
how would you recommend for me to make it ? Just add the EWC bring it to a boil and let it sit?

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! Hit the brakes on that: do not apply high temps to your 'Worm Tea'... the euphemism is very... well, euphemistic. While basic minerals exist in the 'castings', the real power of the castings is the population of microbes in the worm's 'gut' that are left behind with the wastes. I will include a short informational 'sermon' after the following advice for making the 'tea'. I've only been using castings a few years, with any seriousness anyways, so I am not the last word or frankly even the second word, on the topic. Consider yourself duly warned.

The reason for creating the liquid from EWC (Earth Worm Castings) is to leverage the potential for the exponential growth of the very helpful, very diverse microbe populations contained within the worms that exit with the manure.

I mean, why would you bother with the extra steps to make the liquid when you can just layer in some castings and topwater?

Well, just like money, more is always better - but billions more doesn't just change your life, it changes the entire frame of reference! You're not just 'a person' anymore, for with billions you now wield true power. So too goes the logic and reality of microbes. The castings provide a uniquely diverse microbe population, and diversity is key to stable microbe populations as they themselves have critical symbiotic relations with each other, cross-species.

With this 'literally' irreplaceable commodity gifted by the worms, we then work to spike the overall population totals by creating ideal conditions for reproduction. Again, when you hit the rhizosphere with that many microbes, the benefits are huge and immediate - a factor critical in emergencies and downward trending situations in particular... so, yes, top-dressing the manure itself works fine, and for the truly committed can help maintain stable populations going forward, after the shock and awe treatment of the tea changes the frame of reference.

Water. The microbes need unchlorinated or dechlorinated water. You need to know your water pretty intimately to grow well and especially organics because organic fertilizers and soil amendments usually require booming microbe populations to break down the amendments and make elements 'plant available' - unless there is specific labelling saying ferts are organic and 'immediately available'. Chlorinated water will still work, and you should still try this for immed. treatment using chlorinated water if you need to (allowing to sit in wide-mouthed, open container to 'off-gass 24hrs, is approx 90% effective), and then research and plan options to deal with the issue if pertinent.

Agitation. Usually some kind of aeration/agitation is used and applied constantly to assure that any sneaky anaerobic bacteria already present via contamination will not live on, but it also helps the beneficial microbes (BM) multiply. When I do table-top 3-gallon microbe brews, as is my weekly habit, I plop an airstone into an almost-light-proofed container with unchlorinated water (leave lotsa head room). Outside, for large 40-gallon mixes, I use a big water pump that stirs and agitates, and airstone(s), so you can be creative in providing a similar effect. Probably one gallon per plant is lots, as it has no shelf-life per se (a few days in solution), thus you'll likely be doing a no more than 5-gallon pail, and have much left over. Even if you cant agitate I would still attempt, in your situ, relying on the carbs and stirring when possible.

Food Molasses is the hippy and hipster choice here, often to the exclusion of every other possibility. Possibilities you might consider and use to good effect, like brown sugar, white sugar, dextrose, rice flours, bean flours... basically, soluble carbohydrates. Molasses fits the bill nicely though, no bull. Just don't blinker yourself, and know that you can still do this without necessarily having to explain to your spouse that you spent thirty dollars to feed invisible bugs.

Time 48 hours is the oft-quoted term. In this time millions become gazillions, enough to prosecute any war that needs fighting in your rhizome and supply plants with fertility boosters that will turn the soil and amendments into mineralized food useful to plants. "It's worked for me", is all I can say about this factor with even the slightest authority.

You can either corral the castings in a piece of cloth, nylons or other permeable containment that allows water into castings in a 'tea bag' or you can just put the castings straight in, unless using a pump, though I doubt it would hurt the product, only your pump. As for amounts, it looks like I've been using a half cup castings per gallon of water, approx.. Ghee or others may well provide better information and how-to's, but I have always had a very positive response to this technique, and you will too.
 
PS if you ever want to talk about health issues, I mean mainly for tension relief - I'm not a doctor - feel free to send a DM or tag me here to get my attention. I found the building stress of an untreated physical issue to be extremely detrimental to said chronic issues, turning them literally into mortal double threats. However, I also discovered this can be significantly and easily reduced merely by conversing. Shocker. I found that, in my situation, it is easier and more effective with a (near)total stranger, who, ironically, has less personal investment; I know I personally censor myself constantly when speaking with loved ones, to avoid stressing them out. Let's face it, we all have the tendency to some degree because there are few things more stressful than a stressed-out family member! No obligations, you may ignore this completely without hurting my feelings in the least. Best, -rd
 
ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! Hit the brakes on that: do not apply high temps to your 'Worm Tea'... the euphemism is very... well, euphemistic. While basic minerals exist in the 'castings', the real power of the castings is the population of microbes in the worm's 'gut' that are left behind with the wastes. I will include a short informational 'sermon' after the following advice for making the 'tea'. I've only been using castings a few years, with any seriousness anyways, so I am not the last word or frankly even the second word, on the topic. Consider yourself duly warned.

The reason for creating the liquid from EWC (Earth Worm Castings) is to leverage the potential for the exponential growth of the very helpful, very diverse microbe populations contained within the worms that exit with the manure.

I mean, why would you bother with the extra steps to make the liquid when you can just layer in some castings and topwater?

Well, just like money, more is always better - but billions more doesn't just change your life, it changes the entire frame of reference! You're not just 'a person' anymore, for with billions you now wield true power. So too goes the logic and reality of microbes. The castings provide a uniquely diverse microbe population, and diversity is key to stable microbe populations as they themselves have critical symbiotic relations with each other, cross-species.

With this 'literally' irreplaceable commodity gifted by the worms, we then work to spike the overall population totals by creating ideal conditions for reproduction. Again, when you hit the rhizosphere with that many microbes, the benefits are huge and immediate - a factor critical in emergencies and downward trending situations in particular... so, yes, top-dressing the manure itself works fine, and for the truly committed can help maintain stable populations going forward, after the shock and awe treatment of the tea changes the frame of reference.

Water. The microbes need unchlorinated or dechlorinated water. You need to know your water pretty intimately to grow well and especially organics because organic fertilizers and soil amendments usually require booming microbe populations to break down the amendments and make elements 'plant available' - unless there is specific labelling saying ferts are organic and 'immediately available'. Chlorinated water will still work, and you should still try this for immed. treatment using chlorinated water if you need to (allowing to sit in wide-mouthed, open container to 'off-gass 24hrs, is approx 90% effective), and then research and plan options to deal with the issue if pertinent.

Agitation. Usually some kind of aeration/agitation is used and applied constantly to assure that any sneaky anaerobic bacteria already present via contamination will not live on, but it also helps the beneficial microbes (BM) multiply. When I do table-top 3-gallon microbe brews, as is my weekly habit, I plop an airstone into an almost-light-proofed container with unchlorinated water (leave lotsa head room). Outside, for large 40-gallon mixes, I use a big water pump that stirs and agitates, and airstone(s), so you can be creative in providing a similar effect. Probably one gallon per plant is lots, as it has no shelf-life per se (a few days in solution), thus you'll likely be doing a no more than 5-gallon pail, and have much left over. Even if you cant agitate I would still attempt, in your situ, relying on the carbs and stirring when possible.

Food Molasses is the hippy and hipster choice here, often to the exclusion of every other possibility. Possibilities you might consider and use to good effect, like brown sugar, white sugar, dextrose, rice flours, bean flours... basically, soluble carbohydrates. Molasses fits the bill nicely though, no bull. Just don't blinker yourself, and know that you can still do this without necessarily having to explain to your spouse that you spent thirty dollars to feed invisible bugs.

Time 48 hours is the oft-quoted term. In this time millions become gazillions, enough to prosecute any war that needs fighting in your rhizome and supply plants with fertility boosters that will turn the soil and amendments into mineralized food useful to plants. "It's worked for me", is all I can say about this factor with even the slightest authority.

You can either corral the castings in a piece of cloth, nylons or other permeable containment that allows water into castings in a 'tea bag' or you can just put the castings straight in, unless using a pump, though I doubt it would hurt the product, only your pump. As for amounts, it looks like I've been using a half cup castings per gallon of water, approx.. Ghee or others may well provide better information and how-to's, but I have always had a very positive response to this technique, and you will too.
Thats pretty much how I do it. You can add other things like kelp meal, comfrey, alfalfa,even minerals, but really its about that population explosion of microbes.

I use 1 solo cup of ewc per 16 litres of reverse osmosis water and add 3 tablespoons of blackstrap molasses. The molasses, as RD stated, feeds the microbes in the brew until it gets to the soil.

If you do choose to add kelp meal or comfrey or alfalfa or anything else, I find I get better results by brewing that for 24 hours before adding the EWC. And yeah, leave some head room as it will foam up a bit. I brew mine in a 5gal pail in the bathtub of the spare bathroom so cleanup is easy.

You can't overdose your plants on EWC tea but you can if you add other things to the mix. Pure EWC teas are innoculants and microbe boosters, but if you add other things such as kelp etc it becomes a feeding so it also becomes possible to overfeed.

When I brew feeds I usually cut them 50/50 with water right before I pour them in.

Your plants will love you for this.

Edit: If you use air stones to brew the tea, and they work well, scrub them up immediately. Don't let them dry out, or all the pours will crust up with dried tea and they won't work as well next time.
 
ok I just learned something new........dont boil the tea GUESS WHAT i DID...... YEP I BOILED THE TEA werll I learned another valuable lesson so I just pretty much watered my plant with poop water and dead microbes ,Right? I really didnt just say Im gonna grow organic I did a lot of research and talked to others and I thought I had so-so knowledge I guess there is a little more I need to learn about the building blocks of life. lol the wife is grabbing some air stones on the way home from work along with a couple gallons of distilled water

let me ask you guys I run my water thru a PUR filter I read it reduces the chlorine but it also said minerals are filtered out. am I doing more damage than good by using a water filter? buying bulk distilled water got pretty expensive. but am I taking good useful minerals out of the water

Im very Thankful for the help , I never would have figured it out till it was to late
I will be back after work and I MAKE a real organic tea lol
 
ok I just learned something new........dont boil the tea GUESS WHAT i DID...... YEP I BOILED THE TEA werll I learned another valuable lesson so I just pretty much watered my plant with poop water and dead microbes ,Right? I really didnt just say Im gonna grow organic I did a lot of research and talked to others and I thought I had so-so knowledge I guess there is a little more I need to learn about the building blocks of life. lol the wife is grabbing some air stones on the way home from work along with a couple gallons of distilled water

let me ask you guys I run my water thru a PUR filter I read it reduces the chlorine but it also said minerals are filtered out. am I doing more damage than good by using a water filter? buying bulk distilled water got pretty expensive. but am I taking good useful minerals out of the water

Im very Thankful for the help , I never would have figured it out till it was to late
I will be back after work and I MAKE a real organic tea lol
In organics, like RD stated earlier, chlorine is a fatal no-no. Organics works off of microbe poop and microbes are microscopic bugs. Chlorine is a bug killer. So non chlorinated or de-chlorinated is essential, but as for filtering minerals out that depends on how you build and maintain your soil. I use RO water but I add a lot of minerals to the base mix, calcium and magnesium being the big ones, and use EWC all grow long. If you have high mineral well water you can back way off on the minerals in the base mix. That part you have to decide before you mix your soil.
 
Oh and you asked awhile back.... Adding EWC or any organic topdressing usually takes 3 or 4 days to "Maybe it IS working, or am I imagining it?" and at 7 days you see that you weren't imagining it. Everything greens up and grows.

Also if you have any myco kicking around, a myco drench as per the myco instructions of your brand never hurts any time you have a problem.

Heres a good tip for you. When calcium and magnesium are correct in your soil everything else works way better. Thats why you always see people say "Hit it with some CalMag." In organics your cal and mag use their electrical charge to properly structure the soil to allow it to fluff. Its called tilth. When your tilth is correct your soil is correct and ready for use.

So here is the tip.... If something is wrong, and you haven't done anything bad, and you think you should intervene, add cal mag 1st. Make sure your soil is correct before you try any other rescuing.

A steady supply of healthy EWC up top and gently watered in, or kept moist with a sprayer will negate your need for calmag as it keeps the soil correct. Ingredients that correct the soil are referred to as "soil conditioners" so when you are reading about soil or looking at products keep that in mind. A soil conditioner isn't directly a fertilizer but quite often starvation is caused by soil becoming unconditioned. It loses its tilth.

Calcium and magnesium in correct balance are your main soil conditioners as well as being nutrients.
 
like brown sugar, white sugar, dextrose, rice flours, bean flours... basically, soluble carbohydrates.
Aha! Good to know! I have often wondered about this very thing. I had no idea the flours, but the sugars I wondered about.
 
keep it up tell me more lol so I can refer to it in the future this is very helpful .
one thing about purple cow the customer support is unbelievable I have been talking to Robert he is the man who came up with IndiCanja and sold and he suggested when I use the CX-1 it requires a activator the cx-1 turbo charger (which feeds plant right away) any way If I understood him correctly he is a very educated pot farmer Im just an old stoner there are times I miss out in translation but if I understand him I belive he was saying to change them up that diffrent activators the molasses the different sugars and such feed different microbes and opens up different foods for the microbes to break down and feed the plant

is this correct? or am I in the Kitchen with a pot of boiling POOP :rofl:
 
Just in case you guys hear rumor something like" I just threw the air stones in the water and expected it to bubble up
I knew it required a aerator. its just that when I went to get the stones from petco I said to myself I wanna do this again so I didn't buy the aerator I enjoy wasting Gas, sitting in backed-up traffic oh cant forget how much I love spending money lol
I gotta admit Im feeling pretty stupid right now, But before I forget. On the bag of EWC it says ODORLESS well I can confirm that when boiled in your house itwill smell like a waste treatment plant and it will really piss off your wife
it didnt smell like poop though. it was more like a waste water flavor

Guys Im not as dumb as I act sometimes......Im usually worse :rofl:
 
I usually go 24 hours on a straight ewc/ molasses tea and 48 on a feed tea. 24 hours brewing kelp meal, etc and then toss in EWC and molasses for another 24.
Everyone does it a bit different but longer than 48 and the molasses can run out and all the microbes die off. You want them robust and plentiful. As many as possible all jacked up on sugar. Then turn them loose in your soil.
 
Oh and you asked awhile back.... Adding EWC or any organic topdressing usually takes 3 or 4 days to "Maybe it IS working, or am I imagining it?" and at 7 days you see that you weren't imagining it. Everything greens up and grows.

Also if you have any myco kicking around, a myco drench as per the myco instructions of your brand never hurts any time you have a problem.

Heres a good tip for you. When calcium and magnesium are correct in your soil everything else works way better. Thats why you always see people say "Hit it with some CalMag." In organics your cal and mag use their electrical charge to properly structure the soil to allow it to fluff. Its called tilth. When your tilth is correct your soil is correct and ready for use.

So here is the tip.... If something is wrong, and you haven't done anything bad, and you think you should intervene, add cal mag 1st. Make sure your soil is correct before you try any other rescuing.

A steady supply of healthy EWC up top and gently watered in, or kept moist with a sprayer will negate your need for calmag as it keeps the soil correct. Ingredients that correct the soil are referred to as "soil conditioners" so when you are reading about soil or looking at products keep that in mind. A soil conditioner isn't directly a fertilizer but quite often starvation is caused by soil becoming unconditioned. It loses its tilth.

Calcium and magnesium in correct balance are your main soil conditioners as well as being nutrients.
yeah I Know exactly where your coming from , thought I saw some more color last night and did yeah... no diffrence',,,,,but I swear I see more color........Naa it's just me.

well today I had very few droopy leaves and the plants are eating again (knocking on wood)
I was wondering about a MYCO drench, let me ask ya something Have you every used Great White ? I use Dynomyco for my myco. I got some Great White I* was under the impression it was more than regular MYCO but everything Im reading doesnt explain it very well. :confused:
thx
Ill post some new images just to get feed back
 
well now Im cooking with gas....... no AIR. we my wife calls it my" Caldrons of Pooh" sounds like a place the HOBBIT went too . ok after it is done aerating WHEN DO I BOIL IT? JUST KIDDING or am I lol
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also I want to thank My son and Daughter-in-law for the most awesome birthday present, yep gettin old Ill be 38 yrs old.........well thats close. yes my wife and her dolls Annabelle, Chucky, Dolly Dearest they are all freakin freaky
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RIBBIT.......RIBBIT........Cough.......cough............
 
well now Im cooking with gas....... no AIR. we my wife calls it my" Caldrons of Pooh" sounds like a place the HOBBIT went too . ok after it is done aerating WHEN DO I BOIL IT? JUST KIDDING or am I lol
IMG_3883.jpg

also I want to thank My son and Daughter-in-law for the most awesome birthday present, yep gettin old Ill be 38 yrs old.........well thats close. yes my wife and her dolls Annabelle, Chucky, Dolly Dearest they are all freakin freaky
birthdat.jpg

RIBBIT.......RIBBIT........Cough.......cough............
Happy Birthday. :theband::happy-birthday::party::high-five::cheer::passitleft:HeHe.
How old? I just found out I'm 58, seriously :rofl: so you must have what 30 years on me.🤣😂🤪
That makes you, hmm.🤔
If we only knew at 38 what we know now.
Your getting wiser at least.
That's all we can hope for, because we aren't getting smarter. ;) I mean faster. Oops.
:green_heart::hug:




#Love #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
 
yeah I Know exactly where your coming from , thought I saw some more color last night and did yeah... no diffrence',,,,,but I swear I see more color........Naa it's just me.

well today I had very few droopy leaves and the plants are eating again (knocking on wood)
I was wondering about a MYCO drench, let me ask ya something Have you every used Great White ? I use Dynomyco for my myco. I got some Great White I* was under the impression it was more than regular MYCO but everything Im reading doesnt explain it very well. :confused:
thx
Ill post some new images just to get feed back
Happy Birthday!!!

I have never used either one but I hear they both work well. Just follow the instructions on the package.

I like to water my plant to fully wet, let it drain for 15 minutes, then hit it with a myco drench. I do the same when I give teas.
 
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