Panama x Malawi - Probiotic & Organic Indoor Soil Grow

[Rider509]

I use Reverse Osmosis water so the PH is always 6.5... so I don't have to worry about it. If I was using my tap water... all my plants would be dead and I'd be doing something else like opiods... actually hurt my arm last night pretty bad, took a handful of that shit... my kidneys hurt today got a lousy sleep and felt shitier than I've felt in several years.

The weird thing... I got medicated last night before I hurt my arm (dog walking - twisted funny), I didn't even feel anything at all from the opiates.. until the cannabis wore off, then I took more opiates @ 4AM and started feeling like shit ... the cannabis seemed to counter act the opiates effect on me. Tonight gonna be just cannabis.

I'm right there with you on the opiates. I have a ton of Dilaudid and liquid morphine for my back but I'd rather suffer than take that stuff. It makes me sick as a dog and whacks me out. I don't use cannabis either so I pretty much live on ibuprofen and pain.

 

[Rider509]

Well that was a waste of money...

Tap Water: 44 PPM, 7.1 pH
Pur Filter Water: 49 PPM, 9.5 pH

So now I have a filter that makes me drinking water more alkaline. That's totally what I needed...

Your tap water is 44ppm and 7.1pH? 44? That's beautiful water! My water is 300ppm and 7.6pH. I'd have to run a big RO system to get water as clean as yours. On the up-side, I don't have calcium deficiencies. LOL.

 

[TheFertilizer]

I'm right there with you on the opiates. I have a ton of Dilaudid and liquid morphine for my back but I'd rather suffer than take that stuff. It makes me sick as a dog and whacks me out. I don't use cannabis either so I pretty much live on ibuprofen and pain.

Opioids are a very deeply painful and personal subject to me. I've had loved ones die because of them, and seen countless people become addicted to them, and to heroin once the government started cracking down on them. I read in the paper this morning that Purdue can no longer advertise OxyContin, but that's a little too late. They're going to have a consumer base for generations to come. The truly sad thing is that if you think about America's saturation with opioids, it's really not like this in other places of the world. We consume 80% of the world's opioids, and Canada consumes the other 18-19%. There are so few opioid pain killers for other countries, that in places like Russia, cancer patients literally end up brawling in the middle of under-serviced clinics when the doctors tell them they'll only be able to give 3 of the 10 people in line anything for their pain. Meanwhile in America, I remember being given OxyContin, when I was 15 years old, for strep-throat.

It literally eats me alive thinking about them. I've written a research paper on it... Really once you've read that much about them and realize what a terrible situation we've found ourselves in with them, it becomes a thing where their mere mention will leave you thinking about it all day.

Edit

Your tap water is 44ppm and 7.1pH? 44? That's beautiful water! My water is 300ppm and 7.6pH. I'd have to run a big RO system to get water as clean as yours. On the up-side, I don't have calcium deficiencies. LOL.

Yeah I have always been impressed with how clean it is. But I suppose the solids don't really relay any information about what other chemicals may be in it. Maybe it's too high in chlorine for example.

I'm just mad that the filtered water is coming out so alkaline.

 

[TheFertilizer]

Well I'm flipping the plants slated for reversal today. Now, from everything I've read, I should give them about a 2 week head-start before I flip the plants I aim to be the recipients of pollen. That could be both a good and a bad thing, since these sativas have quite a lot of stretch to go through, but thankfully I've got the trellis up to keep the canopy even. I'm not going to scrog because I have this little Jack Herer auto planted for the Comparison Grow thread.

Maybe another 2 weeks of veg will help them correct whatever issues I've got going on. I don't know, but I got really delay flowering much longer. I just wish I had another little spot to take some clones... I'll probably take some further into flower and reveg them, I like the structure of the monster-cropping.

I'm wondering if I should put some air-stones in my water reservoirs. I think having the labs in there plus the molasses is only going to contain them for so long, and I can't really get any information on whether the LABS will maintain bacterial dominance or if things can go south. For now I'm just giving it the ol' smell test, but because LABs smells a bit like cheese or sour milk anyway, it might be harder to tell that it's gone bad with the nose-test. I think trying to keep the LABs in the reservoir might be a little more trouble than it's worth, but I know people keep nutrients bubbling in their reservoirs--I just don't know if that's with synthetics or with organic teas like this. To add to all this, I don't know if I do add airstones if it would foam up and bubble over my res.


As I'm working on reversing these plants, I think I should start thinking more about which crosses I want to make. This is what I have...

Panama x Malawi #1 ( will have reversed male only ):

Pros:
Higher Yield (23g off one plant in 3g pot)
Good Aroma, Sweet and Mellow with Vanilla and Citrus
Nice chunky buds, lots of trichomes
Smoothy, tasty smoke
Very potent high, a little bit of a creeper

Cons:
Lanky plant structure
Sunted easily
Shows stress from nutrient/lockout more readily

Panama x Malawi #2

Pros
Good Aroma, more citrusy and spicy, maybe a hint of pine
Nice chunky buds, lots of trichomes
Good growth structure, more tolerant to heavy feed
Potent high, spacy, gives me the munchies

Cons
Lower yield ( 17 g off 1 plant in 3 gal pot )
A little Harsher Taste

Panama x Malawi #3 (My Favorite)
Pros:
Higher yield
Higher potency
Nice branching
Pungent aroma, very citrusy and almost nutty like pistaschio


Cons:
A little touchy with nutrients
Popcorn nugs

Panama x Malawi #5
Pros:
Big colas
Heavy feeder, doesn't show much signs of stress
Excellent structure

Cons:
Airy, larfy looking buds off of the big colas
Not as potent
Kind of muted aroma

Platinum GSC x Cherry OG

Pros:
Amazing taste and aroma, very much Girl Scout Cookies but with hints of grape like GDP
9 week finish

Cons:
Super low yield
Not really as potent as you'd expect looking at it

They're begging to be flowered, big pre-flowers even on 24 hr continuous...

 

[TheFertilizer]

...
Meanwhile, I'm not really sure this spinosad is working. I have been keeping the temperature super low as well. But I spotted some today on one of the leaves. I'm not really sure if the damage to the leaves is from the mites, or if it's from being kept so cold and because they were root bound. I transplanted 5 of them into 5 gallon pots and put them in my tent with my new 315 W CMH, and then put the others in 3 gallon pots under the T5. The ones in the 5 gallon pots are a little different because I ran out of soil and 2 of the 5 were made some basically a hodgepodge mix of dirt, so we'll see what happens. I'm really not that concerned about it right now because I might be moving, the mites, etc. For all I know these won't even be making it too much longer....

Ohhhh yeah, now I remember doing that. So that explains a lot... Old soil...

Oh and wanted to get some plant shots of the Panama x Malawi #1 since it got kind of left off this list above...

Well, I've been racking my brain trying to remember what "hodgepodge" of soil I put together for those 5 gallon buckets. I barely even remembered making that post, so yeah... I guess getting stoned and transplanting wasn't the brightest idea, but apparently I also was going a little recklessly since I wasn't sure I was gonna knock those mites out. I'm guessing that when I ran out of my last harvests soil after putting it all into the 3 gallon buckets, that I must have tried to stretch out what was left with some of my original "hot mix", but I can't for the life of me remember what ratio. Then on top of that, I ran out of my last harvest's soil all together, so at one point I started thinning out the "hot mix" entirely with Sunshine Mix #4 and no EWC. So two of those pots are my original hot mix--let's call it nuclear--mixed up with last harvests re-cycled soil, and I'm guessing I probably did a 1 gallon of nuclear-mix to 4 gallons of old mix, but considering how hot the old mix already was, that's still gonna be pretty hot. THEN, when I ran out of the old soil, I know I used some left over Sunshine Mix #4 and perlite I'd mixed up for seedlings and stuff, and so that was pretty light on EWC...

Anyway there's not so much point in figuring out what I did, versus what to do about it. I suppose remembering that happened might help take a renewed look at what the plants are trying to tell me, or... I wonder if I could just bite the bullet and start treating it like a soilless medium and give it light EarthJuice teas pH adjusted. Going from feeding the soil back to feeding the plant...

I dunno, but I got about two weeks of time I can use to recover before I flip the 5 gallon girls, so I should probably make up my mind quickly. In my opinion, things did seem to improve when I gave them that EarthJuice feed a couple weeks ago. I really wanna keep it all organic and probiotic and all that good stuff, but my gut is telling me I just need to suck it up and go back to the bottle, just for this round and these plants.

BUT if I do all that, then what am I gonna do with this 20-25 gallons of salted, crummily-mixed bullcrap soil? Hardly seems worth holding on to and recycling. I guess it just gives me an excuse to whip up a new batch, and recycle the stuff in the 3 gallons appropriately. Maybe I can whip up another 10-20 gallons using my original "super hot mix" and some EWC/coco/perlite, since it's been cooking and stuff so long it just needs to be thrown into a decent base.

I'm thinking out loud, but I feel like it's better to put all this stuff down and know what the hell I'm doing rather than just make vague statements like that and screw myself over again. So if anyone's reading all this blabbing

 

[Hyena Merica]

Hi Fertilizer:

Hyena here. Read through your journal and it seems like you have had some challenges but still coming along. Good job. Keep it up.

For the future, you should really consider an easy-to-construct hydro system like what I run. Check out my journal, I do a simpler (much simpler) method than the commercial systems and it's pretty easy(and cheap) to set it up like I did...in my opinion you would get 2-3 times what you're getting for the same effort, or more.

Oh, plus I saw your photo in the photo contest and it's funny what you can see when you zoom in..

Peace, Hyena

 

[TheFertilizer]

Well still trucking a long, made some ACT today with some EarthJuice as well to foliar feed, I don't think the soil mix is right on these 5 gallons to go water-only so I'm gonna start supplementing. I'm hoping that the little Jack Herer Auto is all right, but it's already starting to look a little bit distressed. I don't think that the EWC/Sunshine #4 mix is good for starting seeds in either I guess. Really I'm thinking more about just getting some pre-bagged soil next time around.

 

[Rider509]

Opioids are a very deeply painful and personal subject to me. I've had loved ones die because of them, and seen countless people become addicted to them...

Right there with you. I raised my grandniece from six to almost eleven years old because of addiction. My niece got straight, we thought, but just yesterday CPS took the kids from her after her doc turned her in. The ex of a good friend recently transitioned to heroin because it's cheaper than buying, and I've watched friends destroy their lives and in some cases die because of opioids and heroin. All good people the victims of a bad drug.

 

[Rider509]

Here's my opinion, for what it's worth. You need a successful grow. You want an organic grow. Your plants need a balanced nutrient schedule. You're scatterbrained and disorganized from being high. (not a condemnation, just an observation lol) You should bail on the organic route for now and focus on responding to the needs of the plants with whatever nutrients you have regardless whether they are organic or not. Feed your babies so they can grow and get strong and make you lots of meds!

You got this, Fert! Give those girls whatever makes them happy. I have some extra radioactive isotopes if you need them.

 

[TheFertilizer]

Here's my opinion, for what it's worth. You need a successful grow. You want an organic grow. Your plants need a balanced nutrient schedule. You're scatterbrained and disorganized from being high. (not a condemnation, just an observation lol) You should bail on the organic route for now and focus on responding to the needs of the plants with whatever nutrients you have regardless whether they are organic or not. Feed your babies so they can grow and get strong and make you lots of meds!

You got this, Fert! Give those girls whatever makes them happy. I have some extra radioactive isotopes if you need them.

Well the point isn't to be organic because I don't want to use chemicals or some shit like that, but the point of all this was that I wanted to have a soil I'd have to just water. No screwing around with pH adjustments, mixing nutrients or any of that garbage. I mean I know so many pot growers love to be masochistic, and make it all a "labor of love", but I'm trying to make things easier on myself lol I should have just bought some pre-bagged soil that's meant to be water-only, but the shipping costs on stuff like that is pretty high, so I wanted to try making my own recipe from locally sourced ingredients.

But really if it's not one thing it's another, and screwing around mixing up soil is just as tedious. Now if there was a way where I could just put some stuff in a pot and not have to fuck around with that goldilocks "Whoops too low, oh wait too high now," tail-chasing of pH adjusting, I wouldn't really care if it was organic or not. Now expense still comes into play, which was supposedly going to be really cheap going organic, but I'm pretty sure I've spent more on amendments and soil ingredients than I have on bottled nutrients--but that's not to say a full fledged hydro setup wouldn't be more expensive than that.

Anyway blah de blah, I think I just need some soil that doesn't suck and I'll be good lol But I agree I'm gonna have to just foster it through with the EarthJuice and bite the bullet and do the pH adjusting dance through the rest of this cycle. All that means though is that if I get sick between now and the end, the plants get neglected, so that might hurt my yield just as badly. It's all a balancing act.

Edit:

See, they're doing pretty good with the water-only, no pH'ing when the mix is good...

Too bad I'm reversing these with CS, and flowering them under a T5 no less lol

Now why couldn't I have chose to put THOSE pots in my flowering tent and the ones with the bad soil be the reversal ones. My guess is I forgot which ones had the "old" mix and which had the hodgepodge, hastily thrown together mix I had to resort to when I ran out of soil.

 

[Rider509]

I'll tell ya, honestly, the reason I do RDWC is because it's so easy. I fill a 30gal master res with a garden hose, pH that water, add nutrients and other stuff, and then it feeds to two reservoirs for my grows. It's lazy, it's easy, and it works.

 

[TheFertilizer]

I'll tell ya, honestly, the reason I do RDWC is because it's so easy. I fill a 30gal master res with a garden hose, pH that water, add nutrients and other stuff, and then it feeds to two reservoirs for my grows. It's lazy, it's easy, and it works.

Well, I hate to make myself sound like I'm crippled or something, but "easy" may be a very relative term. So when I get sick, for the first two days at a time, I can't do anything besides puke into a bucket and sleep. Even when I do end up able to move and do anything besides wretch, I end up dehydrated and basically any movement, no matter how minor ( I'm talking about rolling over in bed ) will give me cramps and screw my blood pressure around. So I have literally been at points where all I can mange to do is put a moisture probe in the soil to see if they need water, and pour some in, and even that will cause me to go right back into dry heaving and cramps. Then if we're talking mixing nutrients and pH'ing, it really doesn't sound like a lot of work, but all that moving around grabbing one bottle, shaking shit up, bending over, it will take a huge toll. So I figured, if all I can do is see if they need water and water them, then that's the type of system I need.

How often do you need to pH adjust your reservoir? How many tries until it's right on? Seriously, I use to be sick as a dog shaking up a gallon jug, "6.3... FUCK" *adds pH up* "7.5 FUCK" *pukes then adds more pH down* "6.4?? Fuck it close enough." That's even if I was well enough to do all that; if I wasn't, plain water was all they got just so they didn't die.

But I think I've almost got this. I'm going to get some really neato looking Tropf-Blumat water-sensor drip feeders--they're basically a little cone you stick in the soil and they open up a drip valve if the soil is dry, close it when it's wet. I can hook them up to the little resevoirs I have now, get some good premixed water only soil, and not have to even worry about pH'ing or even having to check if the pots are dry.

Here's the sensors I'm talking about. Figure even if I have to go back to pH'ing a res, these would at least leave me a lot better off than having to check if they're dry and all that stuff.

 

[Van Stank]

 

[bobrown14]

Hey there Fert, I hope today sees you feeling better. Sorry to hear about your illness or maybe a better term, just general feeling bad.

I apologize for bringing up a subject that is so negative for a lot of people. I think I was trying to make a point that cannabis was actually counter acting the effects of opiods on me. Probably maybe a good thing and we could use cannabis as a "gateway" drug to freedom from addiction. It certainly worked for me.

Back to the girls.. I don't see any issues really. Your plants look as good or better than mine do at this stage... really no bullshit. MAYBE some of the VEG plants under the T5 are a little spindly... they are ready to go into flower, that's normal they need more light is all.

Spinosad works on mites... ya gotta trust me on that 100% - just need to spray 2x a week and not miss in 2 weeks you should have kicked them to the curb. They like it hot and dry, say 90F then 30RH ... a few days like that and I have an outbreak. Spinosad to the rescue. Spray everything in the grow room top & btm of all the leaves the stems and top of soil line - the floor and walls, get the air moving.

They hate wind... They are just part of the game. They are everywhere hard to totally get rid of. Probably impossible really. But keeping them off your plants is totally doable with Spinosad.

So yeah to me your garden is plugging along nicely. I don't see any issues at all.

Stay the course you're doing GREAT!

 

[TheFertilizer]

Hey there Fert, I hope today sees you feeling better. Sorry to hear about your illness or maybe a better term, just general feeling bad.

I apologize for bringing up a subject that is so negative for a lot of people. I think I was trying to make a point that cannabis was actually counter acting the effects of opiods on me. Probably maybe a good thing and we could use cannabis as a "gateway" drug to freedom from addiction. It certainly worked for me.

Back to the girls.. I don't see any issues really. Your plants look as good or better than mine do at this stage... really no bullshit. MAYBE some of the VEG plants under the T5 are a little spindly... they are ready to go into flower, that's normal they need more light is all.

Spinosad works on mites... ya gotta trust me on that 100% - just need to spray 2x a week and not miss in 2 weeks you should have kicked them to the curb. They like it hot and dry, say 90F then 30RH ... a few days like that and I have an outbreak. Spinosad to the rescue. Spray everything in the grow room top & btm of all the leaves the stems and top of soil line - the floor and walls, get the air moving.

They hate wind... They are just part of the game. They are everywhere hard to totally get rid of. Probably impossible really. But keeping them off your plants is totally doable with Spinosad.

So yeah to me your garden is plugging along nicely. I don't see any issues at all.

Stay the course you're doing GREAT!

Oh, well I forgot pictures of the bad girls... These are veg'ing under a CMH, I've just been waiting until they were big/healthy enough to flip.

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• TheFertilizer
• Feb 24, 2018

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• TheFertilizer
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• TheFertilizer
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• TheFertilizer
• Feb 24, 2018

So basically I screwed up when transplanting. All the girls in those 3 gallon black pots, under the T5, are in recycled soil form the last harvest. These ones are in some boneheaded hastily-thrown-together mix I had to resort to when I ran out of that.

Longer explanation/theory...

These ones in the white 5 gallon pots under the CMH looking all hurt, are in some soil I had to hastily mix together without really thinking about it. Long story short there's way less EWC in it and more "peat", except that all I had was Sunshine Mix #4. So I made that mix 1 gallon of the original super-rich mix to 4 gallons of Sunshine Mix #4. To me it just seems like lockout, but I cannot really wrap my head around why that would be, because the pH is at 7, maybe a hair above. Plus even without that EWC, the rich-mix that I mixed in should have been pretty biologically diverse, and I've been drenching with LABs (maybe that is the culprit*) and ACT. So I can't imagine it being a problem with no microbial activity or pH, but SOMETHING is locking the nutrients out.

*Lactic Acid Serum that they use in KNF. But this stuff apparently is so strong that it takes over, so maybe it's killing my biodiversity, and the microbes are just sitting there eating what they want to maintain but it's not enough for the plant. Maybe I should just be using ACTs? Someone told me biodiversity of ACT means more microbes breaking down the organic matter, more exudates, more food for the plant.

OH and I also got a Pur water filter to filter my input water as you suggested. It doesn't seem to reduce the solids very much, actually the ppm read higher after filtering than before, and for some reason it took my tap water's pH from 7.5-8 to like 9-10. But anyway I've been trying to pH it down to 6.5 rather than try to let the soil buffer, because I figure if the pH of the water going in is never below 7, and my soil isn't below 7, then it won't ever really be in the optimal range. But if my input is at 6-6.5, then it will still be in the optimal range before it buffers up to 7.

So that's what I'm trying/thinking...

Anyway,

I'm wrestling with the choice of maybe just resorting to the EarthJuice bottled nutrients through the rest of this cycle. But I'm not sure it would even help, and I wanted to stick with learning how to do it organically just as part of the process. Doesn't help to try a method if I just give up and go back to the bottles at the first sign of troubles. There had to be some trial and error I guess. I'm just trying to figure it out to learn from it.

Worse part is that I've veg'ing these for 12+ weeks, and they're going to stretch massive, so I really can't delay flipping much longer. Not to mention I'm running out of meds.

I've been spraying Spinosad quite frequently, I slowed down a bit after I noticed them getting better but was still trying to keep it to once a week, so if I only need to keep it up ever 2 weeks then I should be golden still. I just figured with all that spraying the soil was staying too moist


No worries about the opioids, I am just generally pretty outspoken against them, but tend to like to explain my position rather than make it seem like I'm coming from a place of judgement or something. I really wish cannabis would have helped the person I lost... I'm being super vague, but yeah, someone extremely close and who I grew up with, and in any case I remember years ago getting them to try some cannabis to help but they had a bad experience with it. I guess they hadn't smoked since the 80s or something, then took like an 8th and smoked it through a steam-roller then freaked out. *facepalm* But I've seen a lot of other people use cannabis to curb or even totally eliminate their opioid usage. There's even studies showing ODs going down in states that have legalized.

Also thanks! Feeling better today now that I've got a bit of extra strong meds... 73 micron Blackberry Kush, very good for the nausea

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• TheFertilizer
• Feb 24, 2018

 

[bobrown14]

Those 2 plants in the back that don't look that great ... still aren't that bad. It's hard to over water plants that size TBH .... turn up the lights a little??? Maybe they just wanna go to flower. I get plants that look like that when I VEG them too long... and it's strain dependent it seems.

Can always try just an EWC + Kelp tea ... that always brings things around for me.

 

[Hyena Merica]

Hey Fertilizer:

Sorry to hear you are sick bro...health is everything and I wish you well. God bless you.

Okay:

Your plants need more light. A LOT more. Just sayin' man.

Check out my journal and you'll see what they should look like. You need to go full spectrum and a lot more lumens.

Why not get everything you deserve for your efforts?

I will help you any way I can. This doesn't happen in a day. Keep growing bro.

And remember it could be worse.

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• Hyena Merica
• Feb 6, 2018

Peace, Hyena

 

[TheFertilizer]

Those 2 plants in the back that don't look that great ... still aren't that bad. It's hard to over water plants that size TBH .... turn up the lights a little??? Maybe they just wanna go to flower. I get plants that look like that when I VEG them too long... and it's strain dependent it seems.

Can always try just an EWC + Kelp tea ... that always brings things around for me.

Yeah they're quite old. They've been vegging for at least 12 weeks, and honestly a little more than that because when I took these as clones they got stunted when I planted them in my two-hot mix, and that was in November sometime, so they're getting up there in age. Probably the oldest plants I personally have ever had.

I can't turn up my lights, or get more lights...

Hey Fertilizer:

Sorry to hear you are sick bro...health is everything and I wish you well. God bless you.

Okay:

Your plants need more light. A LOT more. Just sayin' man.

Check out my journal and you'll see what they should look like. You need to go full spectrum and a lot more lumens.

Why not get everything you deserve for your efforts?

I will help you any way I can. This doesn't happen in a day. Keep growing bro.

And remember it could be worse.

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• Hyena Merica
• Feb 6, 2018

Peace, Hyena

Because I live in a crappy apartment that can't handle that much electricity, so a 400 W flower light and 200 W veg light are all I can run. I switched from 400 W HPS to 315 W CMH for this grow.

I know what you're going to say next, get a smaller tent, but then I'd have to fit less plants in there, and if I didn't get at least 1 ounce more per plant in the smaller space then I wouldn't be better off. And honestly I find myself not really trusting people when they tell me, "OH you just need this many watts per square foot," or something like that, because it seems like any time someone says that they're running with kilowatts of light and I just don't think it scales down that much. So basically I'd have to spend the $80-$100 on the tent, then hope I get 2-3 ounces per plant on the 3-4 I can fit in it, and if I didn't then it would be a waste of money and weed. Now everyone can tell me, "Oh I'm sure it would," but everyone also told me I should get 1 gram per watt "easily" when I haven't even broke .5 yet. So not to be rude, but I feel like I need to take the advice from people running kilowatts of light with a grain of salt. If someone that switched from a Mars Hydro 300 watt came in and told me their yield jumped when dropping tent sizes I'd believe them, but I feel like comparing my low energy lights to these big kilowatt HIDs is like comparing apples to oranges.

I'm hoping to move, but even when I do get into a better place I don't think I could afford to run much more than 600 W light for flowering because I'm on disability and get help with my power bill as it is. So as much as I think it triggers the Kilowatt Krowd to see such low numbers for lighting energy, the "more light" answer just isn't applicable in this situation. Smaller tent maybe, but more light no.

 

[Hyena Merica]

That's okay, do the best you can with what you have bro.

The best thing is, cannabis is an amazingly hardy plant that always finds a way to grow. I'm sure you will get your time and money's worth.

Just add love...

Peace, Hyena

 

[TheFertilizer]

That's okay, do the best you can with what you have bro.

The best thing is, cannabis is an amazingly hardy plant that always finds a way to grow. I'm sure you will get your time and money's worth.

Just add love...

Peace, Hyena

Yeah, I wish honestly I could just grow outdoors. No better light than the sun! My dream is to have a climate controlled greenhouse.