P-91 - CFL 12Pack - SCROG - DWC 1st Grow

Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Hydrologist said:
Yeah Krip I gatta say after reading that article you sent me on waiting to harvest until the perfect time and makeing sure to wait until the hairs are ALL orange and sucked in dude thats exactly what I needed to hear! As I may have mentioned before we harvested sandra at day 60 of flower and I had always felt and had wanted to keep her going atleast until day 70 but again...that was a co op grow and thats why I'll never do another co op grow again!!!
(1 bad captain is better than two good ones)

But yeah this time im definetly going to wait until she looks absolutely ready to harvest! and thats when I'll switch her to clear PH'd water and flush her for 5 days and then boom cut her! Today is day 49 so should be soon!

Hydro
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Yeah...that's definately the way to do it! It's worthy to note that I also saw a video, which I think is posted somewhere on my journal, where Jorge Cervantes was judging some of the Cannabis Cup competition entries. He mentions that tricome color used to be a real good indication of quality, but that he's now seen too many cases where the quality was exceptional but trichs showed little amber. This is a good argument to start taking samples a couple weeks before you think she's ready, sample every few days, and when you think the quality has peaked, then chop.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

DIME what did you say that strain was btw? BECAUSE IT IS LOOKING INSAINE! PROPS!!!! (oh yeah just edited this post bc maybe you didn't think I was talking to you or maybe your just a jerk and throw responses out to everyone but me tshhh)

haha jk

hIGH DRIZO
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Thanks for the compliment Giants! :high-five:

Mr Krip, thanks again! I was wondering about the feeding and PPMs and you pretty much answered before I even asked :) do I need a little tinfoil hat:rofl: you're reading my mind now :rofl:

Last feeding I was at 1030 PPMs, do you think it would be a good idea to stay there another week, then start dropping them down? I keep thinking I should have been closer to 11-1200 PPMs a week ago but I was too nervous about burning the crap out of them.

Maybe i could just feed them the same as last time for the next feeding(week 5), but bumping up the Budswel 10ml for the last time(30ml each) .Then the following week (week 6) drop down the GH by 2.5ml, the Budswel in half and start the Overdrive.

Man I sound like a noob eh? Sorry for the long question, I just want to keep these girls at the best level I can (plus Im a little baked :)).

A great big :Namaste: and a thank you in advance!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Man that last post took forever to type! Then I see all these posts after...:high-five:

farnorth said:
Dime, that first picture is fucking crazy. sooooo many tops its insane..
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Thanks man! Every time I see the girls I feel like my ears are touching at the back of my head from my shit-eating grin :rofl: Mary-Kate's 23 have now become 25 :cheertwo: Ashley's 7 tops are just getting fatter, but that's OK with me :)

Mr. Krip said:
Yeah...that's definately the way to do it! It's worthy to note that I also saw a video, which I think is posted somewhere on my journal, where Jorge Cervantes was judging some of the Cannabis Cup competition entries. He mentions that tricome color used to be a real good indication of quality, but that he's now seen too many cases where the quality was exceptional but trichs showed little amber. This is a good argument to start taking samples a couple weeks before you think she's ready, sample every few days, and when you think the quality has peaked, then chop.
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I LOVE samples! That's gonna be cool :smokin:... I'll check out that video too, thanks again!

Hydrologist said:
what did you say that strain was btw?
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The strain is P91 my man ;)

I have a tiny bit of P91 and the package (kind of like a foil lined zip-lock bag) it came in, left from what I purchased from the grow-op. I use it as my smell reference! I'm not sure if the smell is a maturity thing with the buds or not but my girls smell a lot sweeter. I guess I'll know for sure at the end.

Now it's time to do some more catching up on all your journals! I'm having a freaking eye-gasim from all the bud porn!
:peacetwo:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

dude i know what you mean when it comes to "trying to catch up" on peoples journals lol. Expecially urs and hemprockets! im usually pretty lost everytime i look at them but it doesn't stop me from postin haha.

cool factoid!: at the clinics around where I live they keep these like...glass sugar dispensars with holes on the top full of whole pepper beans. Pepper as in the pepper you'd grind up on your salad. But yeah what your suppose to do is take a deep sniff of the pepper then smell the buds, i guess it helps you "clear or get" a scent. Basically helps you smell herb somehow err...helps you smell the difference between herb or something cuz they suggest after every fat wiff you take you should take another fat wiff of the whole bean pepper in that jar haha.

crazy.

hydro
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

You can also do that with coffee beans. Take a sniff of a jar of coffee beans between smelling different strains of cannabis.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Hydrologist said:
dude i know what you mean when it comes to "trying to catch up" on peoples journals lol. Expecially urs and hemprockets! im usually pretty lost everytime i look at them but it doesn't stop me from postin haha.

cool factoid!: at the clinics around where I live they keep these like...glass sugar dispensars with holes on the top full of whole pepper beans. Pepper as in the pepper you'd grind up on your salad. But yeah what your suppose to do is take a deep sniff of the pepper then smell the buds, i guess it helps you "clear or get" a scent. Basically helps you smell herb somehow err...helps you smell the difference between herb or something cuz they suggest after every fat wiff you take you should take another fat wiff of the whole bean pepper in that jar haha.

crazy.

hydro
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Dude, that's sweet! I'm so gonna try that but before I smoke. Don't wanna get high then forget and smell ground pepper!

Thanks brother!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Your Ladies look awesome, very healthy and congrats on the freebies my friend.

:Namaste:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

dirtinmyears said:
Thanks for the compliment Giants! :high-five:

Mr Krip, thanks again! I was wondering about the feeding and PPMs and you pretty much answered before I even asked :) do I need a little tinfoil hat:rofl: you're reading my mind now :rofl:

Last feeding I was at 1030 PPMs, do you think it would be a good idea to stay there another week, then start dropping them down? I keep thinking I should have been closer to 11-1200 PPMs a week ago but I was too nervous about burning the crap out of them.

Maybe i could just feed them the same as last time for the next feeding(week 5), but bumping up the Budswel 10ml for the last time(30ml each) .Then the following week (week 6) drop down the GH by 2.5ml, the Budswel in half and start the Overdrive.

Man I sound like a noob eh? Sorry for the long question, I just want to keep these girls at the best level I can (plus Im a little baked :)).

A great big :Namaste: and a thank you in advance!
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DIME, now you're getting into questions where you're probably better reading the plant than following my guesses, but I would think you'd be fine either staying at the same PPM's, or increasing to somewhere between 1100-1200 assuming the 1030 PPM didn't burn them at all.

If she handled the 1030 PPM's OK, I can't imagine a 10% increase in PPM's will hurth them at this point. On the other hand, the plant is only gonna uptake as much nutes as she wants, so anything more you put in there is either gonna get wasted or risk burning the plant. So, I'm not sure the extra 10% PPMs will really help, either.

If it were me, I'd probably increase the PPM's, which I have been doing every res change.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Light-1-up said:
Your Ladies look awesome, very healthy and congrats on the freebies my friend.

:Namaste:
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Thank you sir, you visiting here is very appreciated!:cheertwo: And I thanks for the kind words.

Matanuska Valley said:
Your plants do look good,really nice job... :smokin:

MV... :popcorn:
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:) Matanuska Valley posting in my journal...very cool, very cool :smokin:
:thankyou: That means a lot :Namaste:


Mr. Krip said:
DIME, now you're getting into questions where you're probably better reading the plant than following my guesses, but I would think you'd be fine either staying at the same PPM's, or increasing to somewhere between 1100-1200 assuming the 1030 PPM didn't burn them at all.

If she handled the 1030 PPM's OK, I can't imagine a 10% increase in PPM's will hurth them at this point. On the other hand, the plant is only gonna uptake as much nutes as she wants, so anything more you put in there is either gonna get wasted or risk burning the plant. So, I'm not sure the extra 10% PPMs will really help, either.

If it were me, I'd probably increase the PPM's, which I have been doing every res change.
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Thanks for taking the time for typing all of that :high-five:. I 'm sure next time around my level of uncertainty will drop a bit. It's funny you said to let the girls tell me what they want... I'm actually starting to see it :). They have done nothing but burst out with new growth and swelling with each increase.

I'm going to see what the PPMs are at with the Budswel increase, then go from there. According to GH I should be at 10ml of Micro by now and another 2.5ml shouldn't be too much, but again I'll wait and see.

What I did notice was that the Phosphate is 5% in the Overdrive. The Budswel has 10%. That is either going to make the buds explode with growth or...??? At least the Budswel is organic and shouldn't cause any burns. Plus the Hygrozyme acts like a chelating agent for the nutes which should keep the girls stable. The Overdrive has chelating properties as well :grinjoint:

From AN's website
If you are using Overdrive as part of our Bigger Yields System, you have no need to be concerned about pH and PPM. Just use Overdrive as directed- the System is configured to balance all formulas together to be at the ideal absorbability and strength. If you are using Overdrive without using the System, it can increase PPM by as much as 200 PPM, and you would need to monitor your nutrient strength accordingly.
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...They discovered a never-before-used combination of vitamins, organic materials, nutrients and other ingredients that make Overdrive a powerhouse harvest-boosting formula used by thousands of growers worldwide.

For example, Overdrive contains special forms of folic acid that work on a genetic level to reprogram blooming plants so they produce larger flowers late in bloom phase.

Overdrive also contains plant-friendly forms of Vitamin C. These special vitamins increase photosynthesis efficiency and makes plants better able to deal with heat, high intensity lighting and stress.

All of Overdrive's ingredients are matched so they work together to give your plants exactly what they need for late-season bloom building.
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Good info..two stable bud boosters, I'm gonna go for it, around a week from this next Wednesday.

If you got through is whole post guys or gals I thank you for your time. If not thanks for trying :rofl: I understand!
:Namaste:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

DIME, that sounds like a good plan!

FYI...the GH nutes are chelated, also, but I don't believe that really comes into play in this issue.

Chelated nutes are inorganic (synthetic) nutrients encased in an organic molecule held together by a weak chemical bond, that help the plant uptake the nutes.

Here's a good overview of how chelation works:

Chelates are useful for micronutrients applied to alkaline soils. Iron, manganese,
zinc and copper react with the ions found at high pH to form insoluble
substances. As a result, the nutrients are made unavailable to plants. The organic
coating in the chelate prevents these reactions from occurring in the soil. The
plant roots take up the chelated nutrient and the chelate releases the nutrient
within the plant.

Chelated nutrients are also useful for foliar application. Plant leaves have a
waxy coating that prevents them from drying. The wax repels water and
inorganic substances making it difficult for inorganic nutrients to penetrate into
the leaf. However, organic molecules can penetrate the wax.

The organic coating around the chelated nutrient allows it to penetrate
through the wax into the leaf. Once in the leaf, the chelate releases the
nutrient so that it can be used by the plant.

The bond between the organic chemical and the inorganic nutrient must be
strong enough to protect the nutrient, but must be weak enough to release the
nutrient once it gets into the plant. Also, the chelating agent must not be
harmful to plants.

Not all nutrients can be chelated. Iron, zinc, copper, manganese, calcium and
magnesium can be chelated, the other nutrients cannot.

Several organic substances (chelating agents) are used to produce chelates.
EDTA is the most common synthetic chelating agent and is used for both soil
and foliar applied nutrients. DTPA is used mainly for chelates applied to alkaline
soils. It is more effective than EDTA but is usually more expensive. Iron chelates
made with HEDTA and EDDHA are the most effective iron fertilizers on high
pH soils but are also the most expensive.
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Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Thanks Krip, That's great info, I'm saving that for reference! I guess what I'm using on my plants is working in harmony right now ...it has to be. On a tip from DocBud, I haven't even been pH-ing my water at all, just mix with RO water and feed. I really love RO water!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

DIME, yeah, the GH nutes have some properties that help adjust and maintain the PH. AN claims to have this also...I think they call it "PH Corrector" or something like that, but I definately have to adjust my PH more with AN than I did with GH.

Many people attribute the effects on PH to the nutes being chelated, but I do not believe this is correct. My understanding of chelation is that it makes the nutes available at a wider PH range. For example, where MN may not to be available at a specific PH, the organic molecule sorrounding the MN will be, so plant can ingest it and then the chemical bond on the chelation will break and the MN will be released within the plant.
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Mr Krip... You are awesome!

Since I started using Hygrozyme it seems to me that it changes nutes into a somewhat of a time release fert. I have never seen my girls wanting much more than water as the soil dries out.

Thanks again and the video will be up in a second!
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

OK... Day 29 of 12/12!

Busy morning but I managed to get a video! I switched the girl's spots to let them get a little different light. Mary-Kate is so big she can't be turned a little bit at a time. Tightened up the LST, gave them their weekly flush and gave them each the Cal-Mag, Hygro and 30ml of Budswel. PPMs were 450 as this is my water day formula :).

I think they really enjoyed the extra PPMs last feeding. The overall color of the girls is deep and vibrant.

HD bud porn...

YouTube - Medical Grow P91 Day 29 of 12/12

:Namaste:
 
Re: dirtinmyears P-91, CFL 12-Pack, SCROG, DWC 1st Grow

Wow man...awesome looking plants...getting super fat...

Are you going to do any serious trimming per 420fied? I think I'll do one and not the other and see what happens. Course that depends on the trich check in the morning. If they're all cloudy..I may not as I'm almost done....

:Namaste:
 
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