One Seed In The Ground

Relaxed Lester said:
Welcome to my world
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"our" world, Lester you guys are not alone. I removed the last worm 2 days ago, it was well hidden, the fattest & he died slowest.

I'll try to catch up here Joe, I want to see if we had the same green worms of horror. nice yard :high-five:
 
joedaddy805 said:
well here is the damn lil critters that i hate in my buds.
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yup, same as mine, my first in indication was seeing small-shade/bud leaves that looked dead and crisp, closer look revealed dead bud turning brown, under the bud was the culprit, I hope you got them eradicated, I'm still a month back in here.

let me know if you don't want the pic, I'm glad to pull it out. I used a mosquito net, every night,

they either pushed eggs thru the mesh where buds came in contact with the net,

or they hit me during day light, when net was off. the horror!

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these are about half the weight of that last one I caught above
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Little fuckers causing lots of damage. If you didnt look for them it be hard to notice them until you seen the damage they blend in well
 
Awesome update, looking really great.

When that big plant blooms, I'd imagine you'll have to give her a lot of your energy to maintain/inspect her.

You have a very nice garden. Keep up the good work! :thumb:
 
:goodjob: great pictures of health, they seem to love your chicken guano :thumb:
 
Relaxed Lester said:
Awesome update, looking really great.

When that big plant blooms, I'd imagine you'll have to give her a lot of your energy to maintain/inspect her.

You have a very nice garden. Keep up the good work! :thumb:
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I have a feeling once this plant goes into flower I'm gonna have lots of issues. I don't think I'm gonna be able to keep up with all the pests. I have a feeling I'm gonna be chopping off a lot of branches.
 
Why do you think that, Joedaddy? If you really keep the plant hydrated and fertilized properly and there is not too much nitrogen in the soil, the plants will be healthy and not be very attractive to pests.

Plants can emit certain hormones which insects pick up on. Usually, the plant will be in decline and not visibly to the human eye yet. Insects can see it as they see differently than we see. So many times you will hear how a plant looked great one day and then bam, infested with whatever was attracted by ill health of the plant.

I found in my years of gardening that the biggest problem are high nitrogen, synthetic fertilizers. They cause many problems and the insects can see it. Slow release organic fertilizer is not available as rapidly, so this doesn't happen and roots only take what they need in exchange with fungi and bacteria in the soil, as well as with the macro organisms like worms, beetle grubs, etc.

I know, who asked! I just smoked a fatty, and I am ditzy!
 
Well cause all my other plants had something wrong with them. Last plant i had got caterpillars and i sprayed for that but still got them. I really hope everything goes good. But i don't plan on feeding it at all unless it starts to show signs of where i need to step in and save it from dying. Cause this plant is an experiment of just using plain water and nothing else.
 
Okay, then why not extend the experiment by using only a strong jet of water on the undersides of the leaves. The jet should be hard enough to knock insects off stems or foliage (really under the leaves) but not so hard to disturb the cells in the plant tissue. If you start a routine spaying with this water jet really getting each leaf, you can almost prevent infestations. You may have a few of this or that, but infestation is a whole different story than having insects here and there.

I hope it goes perfectly and you harvest pounds from the experimental plant.
 
gardenfaerie said:
Okay, then why not extend the experiment by using only a strong jet of water on the undersides of the leaves. The jet should be hard enough to knock insects off stems or foliage (really under the leaves) but not so hard to disturb the cells in the plant tissue. If you start a routine spaying with this water jet really getting each leaf, you can almost prevent infestations. You may have a few of this or that, but infestation is a whole different story than having insects here and there.
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Not a method that I'm particularly fond of. Especially for coastal ocean growers. Excess moisture and humidity can easily accelerate the growth of mold.

Oil based sprays aren't a big issue. But arbitrarily spraying a strong jet of water is not something I would do.

Just my two cents :allgood:
 
My mother lives ON the Atlantic Ocean. She has sea turtles laying eggs in the sand by her back fence! It is humid there. Very humid. Never had a problem with mold or fungus ever on anything. I will take your word for it, but water from a hose dries off in about ten minutes, completely. Even in 80% humidity. For me, anyway. I've been using this for decades and never had any problems.
 
gardenfaerie said:
My mother lives ON the Atlantic Ocean. She has sea turtles laying eggs in the sand by her back fence! It is humid there. Very humid. Never had a problem with mold or fungus ever on anything. I will take your word for it, but water from a hose dries off in about ten minutes, completely. Even in 80% humidity. For me, anyway. I've been using this for decades and never had any problems.
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Yeah, kind of referring specifically to cannabis. :thumb:

I grow 500 yards from the crashing surf. :surf:
 
Do you think cannabis is more prone to mold and fungal diseases because of where it originates in very dry climates? Then again, what about Columbia. Isn't it humid down there? I just get confused as to why cannabis is somehow different from every other plant on earth when it comes to how to grow it. So many things that don't ordinarily apply to horticulture or practices are used in growing cannabis, vice versa.

I definitely trust what you say and will be mindful of that, but I'm not sure I understand how it happens.
 
gardenfaerie said:
Do you think cannabis is more prone to mold and fungal diseases because of where it originates in very dry climates? Then again, what about Columbia. Isn't it humid down there? I just get confused as to why cannabis is somehow different from every other plant on earth when it comes to how to grow it. So many things that don't ordinarily apply to horticulture or practices are used in growing cannabis, vice versa.

I definitely trust what you say and will be mindful of that, but I'm not sure I understand how it happens.
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For one, in my opinion, the water pressure from the jet function on a hose is far too high to be blasting away on my delicate foliage, this may work for hardy broccoli (which I do blast the bugs away on), but not so good for the delicate foliage of cannabis.

I'm referring to the actual recommendation that you gave Joedaddy about his large and bushy plant.

Consider his plant. It's a big and bushy specimen, and he is in fact a coastal grower.

With the right conditions, mold will take advantage of such a vigorous host. The combination of repeated "routine leaf blastings" with hot,humid, and stagnate air inside the foliage pocket can definitely promote fungus growth. The last thing an individual wants is to assume everything is great and the wake up the following week to a massive fungus issue that went completely unseen because the excess water in combination with the weather that accelerated the growth. Now, I hope you wouldn't think about doing this in mid flower because that would definitely spell disaster for us ocean growers.

Personally, with how much mold I have dealt with while growing cannabis, I try everything in my power to avoid promoting any kind of mold growth on or near my plants.

Everyone has their own method and techniques that they figure out, so one persons golden advice could be another persons disaster. Only the person growing their plant will learn through trial and error (having to destroy/trash entire plants because of stem mold - which I've had to do), and eventually figure out a way to achieve a successful harvest by however means necessary. Even if that means tediously going through the foliage by hand and inspecting each square inch and removing the bugs one by one.

The strain makes a big difference, bring a real dense and bushy indica out here on the ocean and use the same techniques an inland grower does, they'll see mold for sure.

Bring a Sativa from the Amazon jungle that grows more lanky and has less pockets of foliage to trap moisture, more airflow to the canopy, and the buds while not super compact are slightly "open" so that there is less chances of bud rot and it will be a more successful growing crop (like my KC-45)
 
joedaddy805 said:
I'm actually thinking of putting a fan inside the plant at the bottom when it goes into flower to help airflow inside. But I'm only gonna use the fan during the night. Let me know if you think this is a good ideal or not.
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I have seen some people who like to do that sort of thing. I don't think it would be a problem. Just make sure it's not blowing any dust/debris onto your plant.
 
I hope I never have to dump a grow because of mold or fungal diseases. I certainly don't want to recommend anything that would hamper a plant. I know I have six outside and weekly I spray the undersides to clean the plants off and then I vigorously, but gently shake them off. I picked two worms off earlier in the spring. I need a microscope to be able to see the plants very well. I can only see them through the loop or I have a 5x diopter lens from my Dazor magnifying lamp which I use to inspect the tops with. I can see relatively well that way.

I should clarify and define what I mean by a strong jet of water. Not to convince you of anything, but just for clarity sake in case anyone does use this method and wants to know.

I have a Dram hose end wand on my hose. It is a commercial product with two settings. One will make the holes smaller so when the water comes out of the 200 tiny openings, it has more pressure, but it does not harm the cells in the plant at all. It's just enough to knock off insect pests, but not worms. Those have to be picked off or some other way.

That's it. I go up under the foliage and spray it with the Dram. I will not do it any more now that they are almost getting ready to finish up.

I'm sorry you ever lost any plants. That's horrible.
 
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