sweet thats what I was got my journeman certifacate in 88. a fine craf it is. good luck smoke
I believe he is carpenter.
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I believe he is carpenter.
True, but there has to be a BRAIN to back the orders followed to tell if this is that day or not. If your entire team is sacrificed trying to achieve an objective, and you still failed in your objective, were you successful simply because you followed orders and got your team killed?
While it is true that is the officer's job to make those tough calls, it should not be done so without the consideration of losses vs. gains if the objective is achieved. Acceptable casualties, is never acceptable, IMHO. How would you like to be ordered to do something with no hope of accomplishing your mission? Would YOU just run out and take the bullet you knew was headed your way as soon as you showed your head on a mission that was impossible to complete?
I know you can't answer that, not being in the situation, but I would think that you'd have a better head on your shoulders than to just march right on up there and get it blown off.
"I want you to know that your son died for a good cause... We thought that if we threw enough men at them eventually they'd run out of ammunition and then we could just watz up and take the place."
While I agree that to give your life in the line of duty is honorable, if there was no point to your death, that honor is tainted by the bad decision of an officer.
Journeyman sheet metal and not journeyman carpenter ...big difference!
Truthfully, if you had just gotten out of Marine Boot Camp you would!
True, but there has to be a BRAIN to back the orders followed to tell if this is that day or not. If your entire team is sacrificed trying to achieve an objective, and you still failed in your objective, were you successful simply because you followed orders and got your team killed?
While it is true that is the officer's job to make those tough calls, it should not be done so without the consideration of losses vs. gains if the objective is achieved. Acceptable casualties, is never acceptable, IMHO. How would you like to be ordered to do something with no hope of accomplishing your mission? Would YOU just run out and take the bullet you knew was headed your way as soon as you showed your head on a mission that was impossible to complete?
I know you can't answer that, not being in the situation, but I would think that you'd have a better head on your shoulders than to just march right on up there and get it blown off.
"I want you to know that your son died for a good cause... We thought that if we threw enough men at them eventually they'd run out of ammunition and then we could just watz up and take the place."
While I agree that to give your life in the line of duty is honorable, if there was no point to your death, that honor is tainted by the bad decision of an officer.
I was on many missions that may have required the sacrafice of the entire crew... (it almost happened twice) this would have been done to save you and yours and I would do it again.
Hi Queen! Thanks, I didn't want any part of that.....I don't mess with friends relationships.
Sorry the heat wave is coming back. I hearing ya on paying the light bill. I remember my big one. Ugh!I bet your girls are loving it. I'd buy a fan or two too! A good cool shower would help too!
That Leutenant sounds like many people that are attracted to jobs that have power. It seems that the people that are attracted to jobs like policeman, club bouncer, hall monitor, public pool lifeguard, etc.......are the worst possible candidates. When I was in the service, I worked with a lot of officers that were honest good people. Then you see the new leutenants that just got out of school. They still haven't lived yet and have no idea how to handle the power they have. It just goes to their head. They were trained to believe they are a step above the enlisted and they will do thier best to make sure they show it. Just the way I saw it though my e-3 eyes!
One of the truly nicest guys I've ever met was one of the new LTs we got when I was in... He was just out of a big military academy on the East coast too...but he wasn't cocky, he was smart, and confident that his ideas were sound.
The LT picked the team he wanted...I was pretty motivated when I was in...and he picked me as his gunner, so I got to hear a lot of conversations others didn't. I can't tell you how cool it was to hear a 2nd lieutenant telling the platoon sergeant "...this is what we need to do...I'm thinking this...what are your thoughts sergeant?". Everyone, including the NCOs grew to respect him very quickly, and I can honestly say he was the best platoon leader I ran across.
I think the military is just like everywhere else...there's a mix of great folks, and not so great folks...
Hey! I used to bounce at a latin club in one of the larger cities around here...I looked like all the other shaved head bruisers, but I was really in it just to meet all the nice Latinas! ::
Let's not forget TSA agent in that list...who wouldn't love to hoist old women out of their wheelchairs and feel around in their diapers? Or spill the ashes of someone's grandfather on the floor, and laugh as the person is on their hands and knees trying to scoop up ashes and bone fragments. Or make double amputee veterans remove all their prosthetics not once, but call them back to security and do it again...
Okay...sorry, rant off.
Yeah right now I just got my first electric bill since moving. So I want to compare for the next few months to see what it rounds out to. Man, the sprouts is just sucking it up. I have been taking nice cool baths but maybe an hour or so later I am hot and sweaty again. But today it's pretty nice, around 84 but then by Wednesday back to the 90's again.
One of the truly nicest guys I've ever met was one of the new LTs we got when I was in... He was just out of a big military academy on the East coast too...but he wasn't cocky, he was smart, and confident that his ideas were sound.
The LT picked the team he wanted...I was pretty motivated when I was in...and he picked me as his gunner, so I got to hear a lot of conversations others didn't. I can't tell you how cool it was to hear a 2nd lieutenant telling the platoon sergeant "...this is what we need to do...I'm thinking this...what are your thoughts sergeant?". Everyone, including the NCOs grew to respect him very quickly, and I can honestly say he was the best platoon leader I ran across.
I think the military is just like everywhere else...there's a mix of great folks, and not so great folks...
Hey! I used to bounce at a latin club in one of the larger cities around here...I looked like all the other shaved head bruisers, but I was really in it just to meet all the nice Latinas! ::
Let's not forget TSA agent in that list...who wouldn't love to hoist old women out of their wheelchairs and feel around in their diapers? Or spill the ashes of someone's grandfather on the floor, and laugh as the person is on their hands and knees trying to scoop up ashes and bone fragments. Or make double amputee veterans remove all their prosthetics not once, but call them back to security and do it again...
Okay...sorry, rant off.