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Guy Cavallero
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I mean honestly, who figures out this shit.... Who would know that molasses would be that beneficial to plants and also make your Christmas cookies taste amazing LMAO.
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Guy Cavallero
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STS (Silver ThioSulphate) I suggest getting some STS and having it onhand incase you find that awesome mom.
Where is the Silver thiosulfate available, is it at the grow shop or is it something you can buy at the pharmacy?
Where is the Silver thiosulfate available, is it at the grow shop or is it something you can buy at the pharmacy?
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Guy Cavallero
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I topped Charly this morning..... so other than some LST as space allows, that'll be it for the training.
Scrogdawg
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I agree.
I guess my question was more asking, if the collected female pollen was brushed onto another female of a different strain, would the resulting seeds all be feminized? Regardless of the different phenos it may produce.
flytier
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Female pollen will always result in fem seeds, but if the pollen came from a hermie they will be predisposed to go hermie themselves.
Scrogdawg
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So are you saying that the use of Silver Thiosulfate to generate pollen from a female plant is considered a hermie the same as light leaks etc. can cause a hermie?
I always thought the use of Colloidal Siver or Silver Thiosulfate was how you could generate feminized seeds without much of a risk of producing hermied plants.
I always thought the use of Colloidal Siver or Silver Thiosulfate was how you could generate feminized seeds without much of a risk of producing hermied plants.
flytier
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Ok yeah, with those silver compounds you don't have the risk of hermies, i don't think. You'll get fem seeds for sure.
But you know, i had some photo plants budding under a porch light this year and never had a hitch with them.
But you know, i had some photo plants budding under a porch light this year and never had a hitch with them.
Scrogdawg
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I also somewhat question stray light. My outdoor soil plant gets moonlight, streetlights, deck lights and occasional headlights and no hitch here either.
Although I don't discount or dispute the light/hermie discussion, I do think it takes some extra ordinary light event to cause a plant in flower to hermie.
flytier
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It's certainly not as big a deal as people make it out to be. They say make sure they get zero light but they can take a certain amount.
I have never tried that Scrog, but I assume that it would produce feminized seeds of the two women. Though I would certainly want to run a few seeds assuming it produces to see what sort of genetics you would get.
I hear a lot of growers will mix their molasses in with compost teas and brew them for a day or so together, something about it really gets the stuff from the compost or EWC going. I haven't tried it yet or even teas in general. I suppose that will be my next undertaking.
Well you gotta understand the basic genetics involved with cannabis. There are a total of 20 chromosomes, 10 per parent. So thats a lot of possibilities of different traits being passed down. You can stabilize over generations, but there comes a point of diminishing returns. Supposedly after F6 generation the genetics have the potential to become 'watered down'. Supposedly F1s have the most vigorous growth but are the most unstable. So much to learn about breeding and cross breeding. And couple that with there not really being any standardization in breeding standards it just makes it tougher to fully grasp everything.
That is correct Scrog...it makes feminized seeds without the high risk of hermies. That isn't 100% though as almost all seeds have a small risk of hermies due to stress related causes.
The light risk isn't nearly as high as some people make it out to be. Its really meant more for a warning for those that like to open their tents 2-3 times a day during the dark period because they can't leave their freaking plants alone. Just be smart about lights.
flytier
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It would make a pretty good experiment with control and experimental groups. Why they suggest to do it only during bud is beyond me, but I'll take my chances and feed my germs.
No worries. Basically molasses takes the place of carbolaod or whatever carb you may or.may not supply your ladies with
You know I'm not sure. It comes down to genetics some are harder to stabilize I would imagine. I mean I'm certianly no expert. But I remember DNA and stuff from school and there depending on the dominant or recessive gene they can be very difficult to irradicate traits completely. Or it could be that the stable strains contain certain desirable traits that can manifest in multiple ways. I'm no genealogist again just speculating based on the small amount I do know about genes and breeding
Wait... lightbulb. It's because the strain contains a gene that has recessive and dominant qualities. So Aa BRED with Aa will have 4 gene combinations AA 1/4 of the time Aa half the time and aa another quarter of the time. Giving 3 genotypes or phenotypes. I think. I'll look into it.
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Where can I get a copy?
