My First Time Growing

Smokeater said:
Do they usually cost more for the seeds? (not that I'll be able to buy any) but just wondering if they cost more or less than regular seeds?
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Frankly, I hadn't noticed if they cost more. They are feminised, of course. Usually feminised seeds cost more in general.

On the savings on electricity, this is something debated. If I'm going on a 20/4 light schedule, of course more electricity is going to be used. But if it's a plant that matures in 55-60 days, as opposed to keeping one on 18/6 for a month or more, then going to 12/12 for however long the maturity takes.....ya gotta work out the numbers.
 
Oh, just to clarify so I don't get spanked here....they do have a vegetative period. It's a set schedule internally for them. :)

Okay, have a great night. I'm turning in soon myself.

Nite Dennise, Nite everyone.

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Wow, even auto vs. photo is calm and informative here at Smokey's place.

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G' Morning Smokey and all.
Hope things are fine and dandy.

I will be a shut in here for a few days, we have a snowstorm on the way. Wind is picking up already. I made a trip to the store for supplies and I'm buckled in.

How is it there Smokes?

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Good morning Canna, I'm doing better today than I was last night, after 8:00 PM sometime, My backed started hurting so bad, I started vomiting which would make my back hurt worse and a little later I'd be vomiting again. It was a vicious circle that last until around 10:30 PM when I finally made myself take a little extra pain meds and it started to settle down. I feel good this morning at least, just a little sorer than normal, but my stomach feels normal today, which is good! This morning I feel :thumb: for the most part .

The weather here is cold and we too are supposed to get a few inches of snow, but it's not supposed to be bad enough to shut us in at least.
 
Well after that rough night, I'm sure happy to read you're feeling better. :circle-of-love:

I'm near the Lake, so I always get more than is predicted. We'll see. :)

How is the little Amnesia doing this morning?
 
Cannafan said:
Well after that rough night, I'm sure happy to read you're feeling better. :circle-of-love:

I'm near the Lake, so I always get more than is predicted. We'll see. :)

How is the little Amnesia doing this morning?
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Amnesia is growing nicely, Her leaves are getting bigger and now that the membrane is off, I think she'll grow nicely like the rest now.
 
Smokeater said:
Canna, I do have a quick question about CCO. Does it use a lot of weed to make? I want to make it for my wife's hands and for a few places on me that hurt just below the skin. I don't think it will work on my back pain because that hurts deep inside at the spinal cord.
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Hey Smokey, good questions. The easiest way to answer what it takes to make it, and the method of application called "Tacking" is to get you to read the first couple of pages of these two threads:

How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil


Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial - Tacking Method

If you are looking to do topical treatments, as you stated about the hands and your below the skin areas, I would suggest more of a topical pain cream. That can be made without actually making oil, but I am currently experimenting with using the Concentrated oil in the ingredients.

In my blog, you will find recipes for pain creams and such.

If you have any questions on those, post them to the Oilers United thread (link in my signature). We've had some discussions on the topicals there and would love to have you there to help ya when you've got some harvests down and are ready for something like that.

Any other questions you might come up with on the oil can be posted there as well, unless they are specific to making it or Tacking it. Then the questions go on the threads above to make it easily searchable by others that might have the question too.

It's good reading on the how to etc.

Tacking or other methods of internal usage of the oil is more toward treating the body from within, healing the organs and systems, and specific diseases and afflictions including cancers and such. Depression, anxiety, aches and pains, pain in general, so many many things that it can help with. A very short explanation there, but you get the "jest" of it. :)

Hope that helps!
 
Autos are really fun. The breeders have been doing a fantastic job with them. The plant leading the in the POTM poll this month is an auto. I've never actually grown one. That my change in a few weeks because I may put some out in the disposable diaper greenhouse for a June harvest.

You would get poor results with an auto in the flowering tent, Smoke. The 12/12 light schedule wouldn't allow fast enough growth before the plant went into flower. So, maybe you could start one in the bookcase and then move it into the flowering tent when it started to flower? That would work better but is not that much different than what you're doing anyway. Additionally, for a big auto plant you would want the long light schedule to continue at least through the the stretch that takes place in the first 3-4 weeks of flowering and there is no way you can do that in the bookcase space.

RTK has grown some impressive autos on his first grow! If you had the big light and the tent set when you started out as well as good dirt and auto seeds... Well, my friend, you could have harvested a couple of weeks sooner by running the light in the flower tent 18/6 or even 20/4 the whole time. Then again, you wouldn't have had the oppertunity to add photoperiod plants into the flowering tent until the autos were done with growing and were just bulking up buds...
 
arteekay said:
Wow, even auto vs. photo is calm and informative here at Smokey's place.

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*giggle* Smokey may not understand my last post, but you probably do. The growing process is quite different autos vs photos. When you are trying to do both in the same limited growing areas it can be a cluster f#^$.
 
PeeJay said:
Autos are really fun. The breeders have been doing a fantastic job with them. The plant leading the in the POTM poll this month is an auto. I've never actually grown one. That my change in a few weeks because I may put some out in the disposable diaper greenhouse for a June harvest.

You would get poor results with an auto in the flowering tent, Smoke. The 12/12 light schedule wouldn't allow fast enough growth before the plant went into flower. So, maybe you could start one in the bookcase and then move it into the flowering tent when it started to flower? That would work better but is not that much different than what you're doing anyway. Additionally, for a big auto plant you would want the long light schedule to continue at least through the the stretch that takes place in the first 3-4 weeks of flowering and there is no way you can do that in the bookcase space.

RTK has grown some impressive autos on his first grow! If you had the big light and the tent set when you started out as well as good dirt and auto seeds... Well, my friend, you could have harvested a couple of weeks sooner by running the light in the flower tent 18/6 or even 20/4 the whole time. Then again, you wouldn't have had the oppertunity to add photoperiod plants into the flowering tent until the autos were done with growing and were just bulking up buds...
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If it takes a 20/4 light period, could I run the regular ones on that cycle? I only have 2 timers right now (1 for the tent and 1 for the bookcase) and am just curious if they would still grow good under the 20/4 light schedule? This is mostly hypothetical, as I was just wondering what the auto part meant, and will have to wait until I get the bottom of the bookcase setup and because of a few small things I need to get, I have to wait a little longer than I realized to do it (things as simple as a paintbrush, power strip, light fixture things that plug into the power strip, etc.).
 
Smokeater said:
If it takes a 20/4 light period, could I run the regular ones on that cycle.
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No. If you put your now flowering photoperiod plants under a 18/6 or 20/4 light schedule it would completely screw them up. They would go through painful hormonal changes and revert to a vegetative growth phase. If and when they recovered from the hormonal turmoil they wouldn't flower again until you cut the light schedule back.

Dee has some autos flowering and they are in their own tents - apart from photo period plants. They need to be segregated if you want to grow both at the same time. One school for photos, one school for autos.
 
PeeJay said:
No. If you put your now flowering photoperiod plants under a 18/6 or 20/4 light schedule it would completely screw them up. They would go through painful hormonal changes and revert to a vegetative growth phase. If and when they recovered from the hormonal turmoil they wouldn't flower again until you cut the light schedule back.

Dee has some autos flowering and they are in their own tents - apart from photo period plants. They need to be segregated if you want to grow both at the same time. One school for photos, one school for autos.
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I must have typed it wrong, I meant to ask, would the ones in the bookcase now grow under a 20/4 light schedule as well?
 
My autos have their own room, with the 20/4 light schedule. I can't put them with the photo period girls, as PeeJay said above.

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Cannafan said:
My autos have their own room, with the 20/4 light schedule. I can't put them with the photo period girls, as PeeJay said above.

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O.K., I get it now. I doubt I'll be able to grow the auto then since I only have the bookcase and tent. No biggie, I was just trying to find a way to grow them with the normal seeds that are vegging now too.
 
Smokeater said:
I must have typed it wrong, I meant to ask, would the ones in the bookcase now grow under a 20/4 light schedule as well?
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Yes, they would. People will hrmm, hmmm about vegetation light schedules and what is the best schedule. Some even veg under 24/24 - lights always on. But, you have to pay for the electricity. I've been meaning to mention.... On your limited budget brace yourself for the next electric bill. You are changing electricity to light and electricity isn't free.
 
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