Munki's Ebb n Flow 3 x 3 SCROG 400W HPS Grow

Hey, anyone got some experiences with Mandela or Afropips seed companies? Decided on strains from these two suppliers and started threads on each. I would greatly appreciate any comments y'all may have.

Mandela Satori thread

Afropips Malberry thread

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Nothing in those pics says "male" to me. They look great. You're doing a great job. Best of luck.

Thanks for the expert opinion. I was just being hyper vigilant.

Hashberry from Mandala was a strain I liked for it's really impressive crystal production. The grow was done in DWC Hydro, flowers were stickier than your average, and the smoke was heavy. Two-hitter. I'll grow it again one day...

Get some beans so I can grow vicariously through ya ;)

Beans did get ordered. I have the Afropip's Malberry and Mandala's Satori ordered with a couple of free beans in the order. I wanted to do something a bit different than what I see other's growing. Something from some smaller, up and coming companies and I didn't want a strain that had gotten too genetically mixed up with multiple breeds. Also, I've read some recent threads on the net where people have received large, healthy beans from Mandala that grew with high vigor.

I do ask for people to chime in any thoughts or experiences with these companies or these strains in those threads. The internet has so much knowledge but in this strain review area, it simply sucks. Nearly every reference points to a copy of the company's seed packet description. Heck, I create a thread on the Malberry and it already in on the first page in a google search of "Afropips Malberry"!

Looking good - your pruning makes me realize just how much I need to do that on my grow. +reps!

No hard and fast rules here. One can take some artistic license in pruning. I suggest watching "The Karate Kid" a few times first! BANZAI!
 
Confirmed last night: both plants are female! :cheertwo:

I identified foxtailing on both plants and to be perfectly honest, I did cry a tear or two of joy. I am a most proud papa right now. Tried my best to capture the pistils but they are very small and hair like at the moment. I did take a cutting of a lower branch that had to go sooner or later. I looked at it under the handheld microscope. Man those hairs are just covered in resin droplets and are just itchin' to capture pollen. Leaves look very healthy and the smell is just wonderful. So far so good folks.

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and to be perfectly honest, I did cry a tear or two of joy. I am a most proud papa right now.

I feel ya. All that waiting and not knowing get's to ya, and then when you find out it just fills your heart with joy! Your plants look great!

EDIT: + REP!
 
I feel ya. All that waiting and not knowing get's to ya, and then when you find out it just fills your heart with joy! Your plants look great!

Thanks Ms.Fox. They were clones so there was a very high chance they were female but didn't know for sure until last night.
 
Thanks Sonzor.

I just noticed that my thread went "5 stars"!

Thanks for everyone who rated this thread as worthwhile. I'll do my best to not disappoint.
 
Full steam ahead now huh? I have a question, at what point do u trim the foliage below the screen?

I did a big trim a couple of days ago and some more last night. Some of those pics are facing up to show how the light shines through. The pics appear darker underneath that it does to the naked eye. I just needed to get enough cleared to get airflow. There should be a fair amount of bud production that occurs just below the screen. I've done a fair amount of reading on ScrOG so I'm not doing this totally blind even if I am inexperienced. As always, pics will be added every 2 - 3 days to show progression. Looks slow as I'm adding them, but when I go back over my grow journals, I'm amazed at how quickly they did change.

Tunes420, appreciate it man.
 
Well got some pics and an update. Just reached 1 week of 12/12 lighting and flowering is clearly evident at this point.

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Looking very, very nice. They are starting to pop out through that screen. You will have some sticky buds popping through there real soon great job and cant wait to see how this all turns out..
 
Munki,

Have got a question that you may have answered here, but with all the space you have to the side of the existing plant, are you going to introduce another plant to the right, and then have a perpetual grow?
Also, is a light mover an option for you? Or would you just get another light in there?

It is a true work of beauty you have got going and will inspire a lot of people.
 
Munki,

Have got a question that you may have answered here, but with all the space you have to the side of the existing plant, are you going to introduce another plant to the right, and then have a perpetual grow?
Also, is a light mover an option for you? Or would you just get another light in there?

It is a true work of beauty you have got going and will inspire a lot of people.

The unpopulated side is where by reservoir is. I've been building things for this grow but not with a ton of foresight. Things have been evolving. The screen is larger than I would be comfortable filling given the root mass. That may not be an issue, but I do not want to find that out 3/4 into flowering. With ScrOG, I've read that it is better to underfill than overfill. Subsequent grows will eventually be tuned for higher efficiencies and yield but the amount I pull from this should be more than enough for 1 patient. ;)

Hmmm, a light mover in a 4' x 4' tent ... Might be possible if I can get one that slowly rotates in a circle. I think there has been one like that on the market before. A straight run light mover wouldn't be really useful in this tent size i figure. Maybe in a 4' x 8' tent it would be worth it. Would be nice but the HPS I have has the ballast built in so it is quite heavy. I would want a remote ballasted lamp if I went that route.

I'm glad you like my work. Didn't really think of myself as an inspirational person, but I guess my work could suffice in that regard. +rep to ya if I can.

Looking very, very nice. They are starting to pop out through that screen. You will have some sticky buds popping through there real soon great job and cant wait to see how this all turns out..

Yeah, I've had branches coming through for days but I generally pull them back under. Only last night did I position the budding flowers to rise through the screen and moved some leaves so smaller bud sites just below the screen could see the light and hopefully grow to it.

It is exciting to watch, though I wish I could grab a TiVo remote and fast forward a bit. Success is quite nice, but it can be a bit boring. I'll just try and count my blessings that it has been boring!

looking good munk

when if ever are you going to let them run up at the light?

You will see the buds run to the light in the end I figure. I haven't seen tons of stretching though it isn't the easiest thing to spot using ScrOG. Many things I've read about ScrOG recommend keeping the plant material at screen height for as long as possible. It is that narrow zone where there optimal light intensity exists. Once the bugs run up to the lamp, I'll have raise the lamp to compensate and the growth below the screen will suffer. Allowing the growth to significantly breach the screen kind of defeats the purpose of ScrOG. Might as well ditch the screen entirely and just do LST tiedowns then (not that there is anything wrong with that).

I'm thinking that the clones I got came from fairly mature plants originally considering how the nodes would branch from the main stem. They are flowering quickly. Could be that I'm providing a good 12 hour absolute darkness. I haven't violated that time except in the very beginning of flower and only just before the lamp came on so it wouldn't be an issue.

Have other growers who have taken clones from mature plants especially early in flower noticed if the clones have reduced stretch when they reach their own early flower stage? Wondering if there is an internal mechanism in the genome of the plant that allows it to know it true age. I know people who clone eventually go back to seed stock. Does multiple generational cloning (clones from clones from clones ...) cause changes in the later generation's growth characteristics? If there is a good internet resource on this, I would appreciate someone directing me to it.

:peace: to all
 
Oh, forgot to mention last night (beginning of plant day) that I raised the lamp another double link on the chain higher (another 1 1/2 inches). The screen has bowed up somewhat from the pressure of the growth below. Now, the distance between the glowing element of the lamp to the top center of the screen is 12 inches. This has afforded greater amounts of light towards the edges where I have some good growth. The actual tops of the plants have been worked towards the edges.
 
munki,

By the way, now that they are flowering, clear anything that is beneath the screen and getting light if you havent already. You want the plant to use all of it's strength to feed the tops and create big flowers, not to feed the leaves/ bud sites that are under the screen.
 
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