KannabisKid
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Looking good munki. That's gonna be a nice harvest.
Munki's Ebb n Flow 3 x 3 SCROG 400W HPS Grow
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Very nice! 
How far under the screen are the tufts? It would be a shame to lose extra bud sites if there was a way to avoid it. We need an experienced scrogger to stop by and weigh in.
Even though your screen is quite uniform, there's still openings where these little guys could be routed, if there was enough light access to incentivize them to take off.
Even though your screen is quite uniform, there's still openings where these little guys could be routed, if there was enough light access to incentivize them to take off.
That's the thing: Can you reasonably expect that there will be enough light to not only support proper bud growth underneath the carpet of buds that you are growing? Proper being, I guess, defined by the individual grower. I've seen screens that allowed a good bit of light through, screens that let so little light pass that you couldn't read a newspaper under them, and pretty much the entire range in between.
Everything that I allowed to remain down there was small. Pretty much single-bowl buds for the most part - or "fluffy" - but as mentioned it all depends on the amount of light. I generally referred to them as cooking buds because i often made cannabutter with them. Or threw them into the hash-oil pipe when I wanted to make oil. But on more than one occasion I gave them away to others who were happy to get free herb - and nobody came back and griped about it. But then again, they were free.
The main thing is under no circumstances would I remove leaves at screen-level in order to allow more light to reach the undergrowth. After all, the leaves are the plants' solar panels. If you don't feel that they are getting (or will be getting) adequate light, go ahead and remove them at that point and use them as you see fit. Many plants will produce better (but less in quantity, obviously) fruit if you remove some of them.
And if you are at the point where you just "have to" sample your plant, well, use the undergrowth and leave your screen-buds alone.
I guess that what I'm getting at is use your own judgment
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The little tufts can be seen in the pics of the underside of the screen. Lots of branches and you you will see little leaves and budsites forming. I had in the past already pinched or pruned these sites but they are budding out now. There is a little reflected light that I think they are trying to take advantage of but I don't care about keeping them. I want all energy to appear at screen height. I don't really have to worry about mold underneath as I run a fan down there. My grow room is pretty clean.
Thanks for the input everyone. Gonna be more of a wait and watch scenario now until harvest from my understanding. Initial guess on harvest date will be October 1st.
Thanks for the input everyone. Gonna be more of a wait and watch scenario now until harvest from my understanding. Initial guess on harvest date will be October 1st.
Steve McStoferson
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your screen is looking sick bro!
if its not branching and just making little buds where the nodes used to be, i wouldn't take them off.
as your plants get older i would use them to judge the smoke. it can help you get the mix of thc/cbn that you want. I use it as a second harvest measure, trich colors, and pre smoke. it will help you harvest better. IMO.
I don't think little buds like that will use up much of the plants energy or reduce your canopy yield.
as your plants get older i would use them to judge the smoke. it can help you get the mix of thc/cbn that you want. I use it as a second harvest measure, trich colors, and pre smoke. it will help you harvest better. IMO.
I don't think little buds like that will use up much of the plants energy or reduce your canopy yield.
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OK, thanks for the input WoF. That is a good idea to use them for taste tests late in the grow. All of them formed in the last 10 days.
Tyrone Hamilton
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Interesting debate on the lower bud sites... maybe you could remove all of them from just one plant and see if it increases the top bud sizes.
I like this idea; but of course it's not my plant
Control and trial = the empirical truth is learned
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I'll try it but it will be difficult to pull good conclusions from my grow as I do not have the assurance that these two clones are clones of one another. They are similar but one had longer internodes than the other. I will give it a shot but I will be challenged a bit as the stems from each plant are not segregated to one side; there is a fair bit of intermingling at the top.
Thanks for the suggestions as there wasn't going to be much for me to do in the next 5 1/2 weeks.
Thanks for the suggestions as there wasn't going to be much for me to do in the next 5 1/2 weeks.
thats what you think. but stuff will pop up. plus pictures are something to do.
cobraohm
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You said that was 1" poultry netting? I heard most people say you need 2" but yours seems to work just fine with the 1", i was just wondering, because i can't find anything decent priced that's 2", but found plenty of 1". Did it seem to block any light or anything during your veging?
Tyrone Hamilton
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Sorry man! I know it's a pain, but think of the knowledge you will impart to future generations of growers... you will be famous. Ok, maybe not... but at least appreciated.
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You can look over both of my grows in my sig as that shows the plants from when they were cuttings to now. The screen didn't go on til after a month of growing and still vegged some more. The tightness of the screen doesn't block too much light but that isn't the problem. It is the pulling the buds back under the screen and refeeding them back through different holes that is a PITA with a screen like mine. Use something that can hold down branches to a level canopy; some just string fishing line back and forth to make a basic net. 4 inch squares are used a lot. I will use something with larger holes next time but the 1 inch screen will work if that is all you can get.
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Oh, I'm looking for things to be popping up in that tent, MOS DEF!
Sorry man! I know it's a pain, but think of the knowledge you will impart to future generations of growers... you will be famous. Ok, maybe not... but at least appreciated.
I don't mind putting in the effort, it is just I don't know what I can conclude if one plant grows a bit better than the other since there are other variables present (like I'm not sure they are both the same clones or strain).
cobraohm
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Ah, thanks Munk, Appreciate it. yeah i saw the earlier pics, guess missed it. Hmmm yeah that sounds like a problem, you seem to be doing great with it though. I'll try to follow your example if i can't find some 2", thanks again.
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MMM ... leaves so sticky .... buds so spongy ... 
best hobby in the world aint it munk?
If you catch them when they have just started to poke through that shouldn't be as much of an issue. You might notice that some buds exist on both sides of the screen by harvest time though. Then you can pull them the rest of the way through or snip at the screen and have two pieces. I'd recommend the later as it won't disturb the nice coat of trichomes that you should have.
BtW - Nurseries sell a tar-like (might even BE tar, IDK) substance for patching wounds on trees. I would guess that a little dab everywhere that you've cut off growth will seal it against future growth. This is speculation, however, as I've not tried it.