Mini Green House Grow

Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Don't worry about taking up space, your personal experience is valuable. You nearly tripled your yield with LST. If these grows were basically done the same way except for the LST, that is just outstanding.

thanks for the feedback fluroman, and don't hesitate to take up space with good stuff like this!

Fluroman and hazeseeker where two of my main reasons for even starting LST they both inspired me to find LST that worked best for me...Fluroman is Master Chop Sticks :thankyou: gentlemen :passitleft:

PS: I am so poor i don't have books to keep
 
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Not this one. Mrs. Sun keeps the books, lol.



The sun and I have a date next summer. I'm bringing flowers.




Can't wait to see your future grows! I just took a look at your latest pics, and your plants are rockin' doc!

Didn't you just start that journal recently? Those girls are huge and just starting to bloom :yummy:

Thanks SS. I got the clones on 9-13. The pics I posted on my thread were from this morning.

Yeah, they've grown. They're starting to get hairy and smelly....:grinjoint:
 
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Yeah, they've grown. They're starting to get hairy and smelly....


there are few pursuits where that is perceived as a good thing, lol

as always that was a good one, setting sun, it made me laugh for a couple of minutes ;)
 
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Puff...puff...passs...<big exhale>..huh?..were we talkin about guinea pigs?....lol



I have a friend who makes really good cannabis peanut butter and he gave me some without telling me how much to use.

I made a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and ate it about 30 minutes ago.


All I can say is that I'm glad I have the day off, lol


Now, what were we talkin' bout? ;)
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

I've been doing a little reading on grow room ventilation and ran across this:


"Air Exchange

As mentioned earlier, air exchange is a key ingredient to a successful grow room. The ideal air exchange rate will vary at different times of the year and from room to room depending on things like grow room height, etc. As rough guide about 30 air changes per hour is often recommended.

In addition to simply exchanging the air in the room to replenish the depleted co2, you need to keep it cool, this requires more air movement than replenishing the co2. I use this math equation:

A 90 CFM fan with a 600 watt light will raise your temperature above the intake air temp by 21°. The 240 CFM fan will raise it 8°. 90 CFM wouldn’t be enough. It’s not the size of the cabinet that you want to take into consideration; it’s the wattage being used. Watts produce heat.
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 90 = 21.33
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 240 = 8
To find how much the light will warm the room with a different size fan you can just use this formula. Just take the wattage of the light and multiply by 3.2. Then divide the CFM of the fan to find how much the room will warm in Fahrenheit degrees.
For instance:
If the temperature of the intake air is 75° and you’re using a 600 watt light, the temperature would go up 5° if you used a 384 CFM fan. So, the temperature would end up 80°.
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 384 = 5
5° + 75° = 80° "



With my 250w light and running my fan at 100 CFM, I'm averaging 4 degrees above ambient. That formula puts me at 8 above ambient, which isn't all that far off, so this might be a useful tool.
 
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awesome sun.. you dig up the BEST info ever i swear!

htg has a nice 400 or so cfm fan for 100 bucks that will cool a light easily.

also i have a question ... has anyone ever heard of using dry ice in a grow room??.. ive never heard of it so i figured there must be a reason why ppl dont.. i mean all it is co2 and it cools down an area.... hmm
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

I've been doing a little reading on grow room ventilation and ran across this:


"Air Exchange

As mentioned earlier, air exchange is a key ingredient to a successful grow room. The ideal air exchange rate will vary at different times of the year and from room to room depending on things like grow room height, etc. As rough guide about 30 air changes per hour is often recommended.

In addition to simply exchanging the air in the room to replenish the depleted co2, you need to keep it cool, this requires more air movement than replenishing the co2. I use this math equation:

A 90 CFM fan with a 600 watt light will raise your temperature above the intake air temp by 21°. The 240 CFM fan will raise it 8°. 90 CFM wouldn’t be enough. It’s not the size of the cabinet that you want to take into consideration; it’s the wattage being used. Watts produce heat.
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 90 = 21.33
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 240 = 8
To find how much the light will warm the room with a different size fan you can just use this formula. Just take the wattage of the light and multiply by 3.2. Then divide the CFM of the fan to find how much the room will warm in Fahrenheit degrees.
For instance:
If the temperature of the intake air is 75° and you’re using a 600 watt light, the temperature would go up 5° if you used a 384 CFM fan. So, the temperature would end up 80°.
(600 × 3.2) ÷ 384 = 5
5° + 75° = 80° "



With my 250w light and running my fan at 100 CFM, I'm averaging 4 degrees above ambient. That formula puts me at 8 above ambient, which isn't all that far off, so this might be a useful tool.

this could be a good general guideline, but without knowing the size of the room it must be an estimation. but you do have to take both into account to know exactly.

but i like little formulas like this because even if they aren't exact, they're not supposed to be, just a good place to start, and if you need to tweak for your situation you can go from there.

**edit

also just because I like it when my friends know more than they have to, lol, it is well known that cold air feels much colder in windy weather than the thermometer says because of the "chilling effect of the wind. This effect is due to the increase in the convection heat transfer coefficient with increasing air velocities. that means that the cooling relationship is linear, and will cool better the faster the airflow, not just because you move more air, but because the speed makes the air have a higher capacity to remove heat.

too much info, i know.
 
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Odorous, I have looked into using dry ice as a CO2 source. It is possible in a closed enviroment to utilize dry ice, but, you would have to use small pieces in a container with a lid to control co2 emission (evaporation).
The system will work though, not trying to disuade you. And monitoring of the ppm is also a consideration. I have also read of a russian experiment to pump CO2 into the plants root system to boost vegetable production.
 
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also just because I like it when my friends know more than they have to, lol, it is well known that cold air feels much colder in windy weather than the thermometer says because of the "chilling effect of the wind. This effect is due to the increase in the convection heat transfer coefficient with increasing air velocities. that means that the cooling relationship is linear, and will cool better the faster the airflow, not just because you move more air, but because the speed makes the air have a higher capacity to remove heat.

too much info, i know.



That's why I don't run my circulation fan with lights out.

Don't want to chill my babies.
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Odorous, I have looked into using dry ice as a CO2 source. It is possible in a closed enviroment to utilize dry ice, but, you would have to use small pieces in a container with a lid to control co2 emission (evaporation).
The system will work though, not trying to disuade you. And monitoring of the ppm is also a consideration. I have also read of a russian experiment to pump CO2 into the plants root system to boost vegetable production.

Dry ice is too expensive to use in a grow room. It will melt pretty quick, too.

As far as getting C02 to the roots, go here:

CO2 Tabs | No Mercy
 
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TRICH CHECK DAY 38 BLOOM

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Had to work pretty hard to find an example of an amber trich, and it's lookin' about 50% clear / 50% cloudy, so too early to chop.
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

also just because I like it when my friends know more than they have to, lol, it is well known that cold air feels much colder in windy weather than the thermometer says because of the "chilling effect of the wind. This effect is due to the increase in the convection heat transfer coefficient with increasing air velocities. that means that the cooling relationship is linear, and will cool better the faster the airflow, not just because you move more air, but because the speed makes the air have a higher capacity to remove heat.

too much info, i know.

Brilliant... of course this makes perfect sense to me like i already know it... but being "iterated" so to speak... idk makes so much sense now as to how important ventilation is... in my situation.. even if the closet's hot, if the airs moving its going to be cooler than the steady air around the tent... just awsome, so wish i could rep right now ha! thanks wof


SUN, sorry im intoxicated at the moment, but i do believe you got those shots through the toysrus microscope toy??... if im right, those are some damn good pics!!.. ive never had the chance to look at buds like that..

are you actually planning on chopping soon??... i thought you still had a While to go.. at least a couple weeks?
 
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Looks like you have that macro all figured out. Great looking shots + rep
 
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