Mini Green House Grow

Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Are you generating enough heat so that the fan runs all the time?

My generator fills the whole room to 1200 PPM in about 20 seconds. I hope you figure out a way to rig it. I really think it helps.


I'm using the exhaust fans not just for heat control, but for providing the plants with lots of fresh air 24hrs a day.

I don't run my circulation fan when the lights are off, so I keep the large vents at the bottom of the tent open all the time (light-trapped), and run a powerful exhaust fan during the dark to provide both heat control and ventilation/circulation.

That's what seems to work for me, especially during the colder months.

I'm only growing meds for two patients, me and my wife, so our needs are modest, although I am very curious about what the effect would be. Grow tents are great for containing CO2, so I will keep it on the back burner.


thanks doc!
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Hi, setting sun. IMHO you are doing pretty decent so far, actually you've been an inspiration for many of us. What do you really think about CO2 supplementation and do you plan something about "goin' on da next level" ?:surf: And btw thanks for keepin eye on my humble grow, brother:thankyou:


As I mentioned to DocBud, my wife and I have modest needs when it comes to yield from my grows, so at this point there are no plans to take things to the next level.

I do plan on doing lots of experimenting with different grow methods and strains, because I'll have fun with that and learn more.

I'm going to grow several different strains because I usually get strain tolerance pretty quickly and have to switch things up in order for my meds to be effective.

thanks for your kind words bro ;).
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

If you do run CO2, there won't be a need for fresh air anymore. The oxygen needs for the root zone should be modest enough. Check with PitViper as his room is sealed and supplemented with CO2.
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

If you do run CO2, there won't be a need for fresh air anymore. The oxygen needs for the root zone should be modest enough. Check with PitViper as his room is sealed and supplemented with CO2.


hmmmmmmmmmm, running sealed without exhaust, I need to check that out, because temps in winter are low enough to let me do that.

thanks munki!

I'm going to do some research on it, because it seems like CO2 is becoming more affordable.

appreciate the heads-up, brother!
 
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BLOOM 26 DAYS
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Saw this and flipped the leaf over..............white flies. I caught it early and sprayed with Neem. Gonna keep a close eye for recurrence and probably spray them again in 3-4 days anyways just to make sure they're gone.

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I flushed them thoroughly with RO water and fed them yesterday and they loved it.

per gallon:

FF Tiger Bloom 2 tsp
FF Big Bloom 4 Tbsp
Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed one capful
Cal-Mag 1 tsp
Superthrive 1/4 tsp
Molasses 1 Tbsp


Buds are filling in faster than ever and starting to put on some weight.

im sooooo jealous... so jealous! :goodjob:
 
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hmmmmmmmmmm, running sealed without exhaust, I need to check that out, because temps in winter are low enough to let me do that.

thanks munki!

I'm going to do some research on it, because it seems like CO2 is becoming more affordable.

appreciate the heads-up, brother!

Yep. My room is basically sealed as well. Oxygen gets to the roots via biological process anyways...not so much through the atmosphere.

Calcium Nitrate.....a main ingredient in all of the nutes we use, is a common chemical used to create an aerobic (oxygenated) environment in septic systems. The symbiotic bacteria around the roots use this to free oxygen, especially in soil.

In hydro, a little H202 can be added, along with the aeration of the broth.

The cost of doing Co2 in a first class fashion is about 700 bucks.
Generator, controller, propane tank.
After the initial expense it will run you 10-20 bucks a month in propane re-fills....the smaller the room and better the seal, the less Co2 you'll use.

But then, your plants look amazing without it.

Perhaps Santa can bring you one?
 
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My tents are 38 cubic feet and can be sealed up pretty tight.

The issue would be one of footprint. I would need something really small.

I'm gonna check it out some more and see what's currently available.

Perhaps Santa could bring me one, but he's gonna have to work Mrs. Sun first, lol.

thanks bro, I appreciate you taking the time to help me out
 
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aaa the perks of surfing late.....

the ladies look like theyre coming along Very Fine ss.. looks like those colas are already getting fat as hell, righteous!
 
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wow. i missed quite a few pages form the beginning, still working my way through this whole journal, gunna have to go over to pitvipers journal here to see all this co2 stuff.

not looking to get involved with that yet, but would like to see it in action.

GREAT looking buds. that second pic of the set on this page is amazing. i love when theres a nice fat leaf shooting out from the bud, looks oh so pretty. ha.
 
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Hello, SS I've got your point on CO2, sounds reasonable!


Congrats, on the progress in the closing acts, they really look amazing and Good luck for the rest of the show, brother! Since I am a first-timer, the learning process from you and your babies, are much appreciated, thank you!

When you talked earlier about the different strains and after seeing your new pic update it a kinda stroked me that even your babies (as I remember they are second generation Lowrider or alike) and from the other side my babies being completely different regarding strain establishment and inheritance (in fact mine are that so famous in the past Skunk strain) they have so strikingly similar appearance.
Isn't it interesting?
 
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If space is a big concern, then compressed CO2 may have an advantage over CO2 generation as you won't need a burner.

It also appears that you may be suffering some chlorosis on the lower leaves especially the plant on the left. Link supplied for those of us still learning.

Chlorosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure on cause. Initial guess always leans to a Mg def but the plant may just be stealing the Mg from the lower leaves as they are pretty shaded now. Something to keep a close eye on along with the white flys.

Keep it up SS. The buds look great.
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

aaa the perks of surfing late.....

the ladies look like theyre coming along Very Fine ss.. looks like those colas are already getting fat as hell, righteous!

thanks bro!

wow. i missed quite a few pages form the beginning, still working my way through this whole journal, gunna have to go over to pitvipers journal here to see all this co2 stuff.

not looking to get involved with that yet, but would like to see it in action.

GREAT looking buds. that second pic of the set on this page is amazing. i love when theres a nice fat leaf shooting out from the bud, looks oh so pretty. ha.

I'm going to continue to research CO2. There are both positive and negative reports as far as results, so it bears more reading.

thanks for visiting and for your comments! ;)


Setting Sun, Fantastic pics bro. Those buds are fillin in quite nicely. You have done a great job so far!

thanks brother, so far so good!

Awesome job brother grower

thanks Tunes, always a pleasure to have you drop in ;)
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Hello, SS I've got your point on CO2, sounds reasonable!

Aggressive ventilation has worked well for me, and having to seal up my tents would not allow that. If I do get CO2 delivery, I'll do a comparison grow with aggressive ventilation in one tent and CO2 in the other.


Congrats, on the progress in the closing acts, they really look amazing and Good luck for the rest of the show, brother! Since I am a first-timer, the learning process from you and your babies, are much appreciated, thank you!

you're very welcome brother, learning is a two-way street, and I also learn from your grow.

When you talked earlier about the different strains and after seeing your new pic update it a kinda stroked me that even your babies (as I remember they are second generation Lowrider or alike) and from the other side my babies being completely different regarding strain establishment and inheritance (in fact mine are that so famous in the past Skunk strain) they have so strikingly similar appearance.
Isn't it interesting?

It's *very* interesting to see the differences and similarities between strains.

that's why a multi-strain grow would be so much fun from me. Even as seedlings, they all have their own personalities. Getting to know a strain is like developing a relationship with someone. You spend time together and get to know the quirks, needs and demands ;).

thanks daydrimin! your visits and thoughts are much appreciated ;).
 
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If space is a big concern, then compressed CO2 may have an advantage over CO2 generation as you won't need a burner.

here's something an experienced grower on another forum posted as far as his experience with CO2:

"Unfortunatly, that method will cost the grower more in yeast & sugar than it will yield in increased bud.
To use CO2, it must be in a sealed environment and be administered above the plant (since CO2 is heavier than air).
You also should have a way to exhaust it during lights out when it's not needed.

There is a misconception of what CO2 does.
It doesn't mean bigger buds. In fact it shouldn't be used after the first 3 weeks of 12/12.
What CO2 does:
Let's say you veg your plants to 15" tall before flowering them.
Adding CO2 will get them from seedling or clone to 15" faster than without it.
How much faster?
If you have excellent flo-thru ventilation, 2 or 3 days.
That's it folks.
For the commercial grower, CO2 augmentation makes sense. You're growing successive crops and after awhile those extra days add up.
But for the average home grower, excellent flo-thru ventilation is more cost effective than CO2 augmentation.


Years ago, in an effort to maximize yield I spent nearly $1,000 for 2 tanks, regulator, emitter, atmospheric ppm meter (those meters cost $500.00), built an airtight growspace (a MUST) and bought extra timers and fans.
At first I was amazed at how much faster the CO2-enriched growspace grew my plants vs. my old space with CRAPPY ventilation (an open door).
Then I spent $30.00 to install flo-thru ventilation in my original growspace.
The CO2-enriched growspace got me buds approx. 4 or 5 days quicker than the space with excellent ventilation.
Not more buds, not bigger buds, not more potent buds.
Just a bit quicker.
And then there was the hassle of lugging those damn tanks to a welding shop every 2 weeks. Refills cost $18.00/tank.
It's also advisable to have a "cover story" if someone happens to talk to you about what you're using the tanks of CO2 for.
That's why I say excellent ventilation is more cost-effective than CO2 enrichment for the average non-commercial grower.

And I've also done cost analysis between using yeast & sugar-generated poorly administered CO2 enrichment in real-life instances and in 2 of the 3 instances the yeast & sugar cost more than the slight increase in yield.

P.S. I sold the tanks and ppm meter and the rest of the equip. sits in boxes in a corner of my garage.

There's no doubt that properly administered CO2 at correct levels is an advantage, especially vs. poor ventilation.
But is it worth the cost and hassle?"



It also appears that you may be suffering some chlorosis on the lower leaves especially the plant on the left. Link supplied for those of us still learning.

Not sure on cause. Initial guess always leans to a Mg def but the plant may just be stealing the Mg from the lower leaves as they are pretty shaded now. Something to keep a close eye on along with the white flys.

thanks for the heads-up munki. It's tough on this grow to know what's going on with the lower foliage because there is still some damage present from when they got burned outside. I'll keep an eye on it. The white flies seem to be history, but it took three good sprayings, along with removing them by hand to eradicate them.

Keep it up SS. The buds look great.

thanks munki! appreciate your visit, comments, and encouragement!
 
Re: setting sun's mini-greenhouse grow

Those buds are looking so nice a getting pretty fat. You are doing such a wonderful job and plants look very healthy and green. It seems you are doing everything correct so I am wondering why the co2 issues is such a big one on your thread. Would it really make that much of a difference, and since you pulling air from outside into the tent is that not enough. Just a question
 
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