Mechanic's Log: WW, AK-47, FFof Soil, Screw-In LEDs

Yeah I’ve been following along. :popcorn:


Now, I’m going to suggest you on what I think you should do. You can twist it modify it how ever you feel, it’s completely up to you, but this is what I would do.

First of all, I would sit down, open a beer of your favourite brand, and just take a deep breath. I can feel you getting worked up about this, and it’ll be fine. Just have a sip, have a puff and relax a bit.

Second, I would flush, with the appropriate amount of water. Don’t worry about ph’ing the water. So your in 1 gal pots, so I would flush with two gallons of water, and have one gallon of water waiting, that is PH’d and with nutrients.

I would let them drip into a bucket (with sticks and duck tape if we have to) but not allow the pots to sit in any runoff what’s so ever.

Let them drip dry for the most part. Then I would immediately transplant into 5 (or even 7 gal pots). When I remove the plant from the previous pot, I would gently massage the roots, breaking them apart from the mold they created for them selves.

Then once the previous root ball looks to be absorbed by the new soil, I would hit them again with your normal feeding regimen.
 
Backlipslide said:
Yeah I’ve been following along. :popcorn:


Now, I’m going to suggest you on what I think you should do. You can twist it modify it how ever you feel, it’s completely up to you, but this is what I would do.

First of all, I would sit down, open a beer of your favourite brand, and just take a deep breath. I can feel you getting worked up about this, and it’ll be fine. Just have a sip, have a puff and relax a bit.

Second, I would flush, with the appropriate amount of water. Don’t worry about ph’ing the water. So your in 1 gal pots, so I would flush with two gallons of water, and have one gallon of water waiting, that is PH’d and with nutrients.

I would let them drip into a bucket (with sticks and duck tape if we have to) but not allow the pots to sit in any runoff what’s so ever.

Let them drip dry for the most part. Then I would immediately transplant into 5 (or even 7 gal pots). When I remove the plant from the previous pot, I would gently massage the roots, breaking them apart from the mold they created for them selves.

Then once the previous root ball looks to be absorbed by the new soil, I would hit them again with your normal feeding regimen.
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Thank you @Backlipslide

If I dumped a but load of synthetic nutrients into these things I would definitely do that.

I’m against flushing unless absolutely necessary, idk why really. I don’t want to waste (leach) anything good that’s in the soil I guess.

Honestly think I could be overwatering. I definitely should add perlite to the mix. That coupled with a mag def. maybe.

I appreciate your input man, I’m just on a different road right now. Haha.
 
BigD13 said:
I've been following too. I think @Backlipslide is spot on. It's what I'd do also. It's been 2 weeks since transplanting into 1 gallon pots. Time to give those ladies some leg room.
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I agree with the up potting. Just not flushing. I didn’t add enough of anything to attribute to a salt build up, rendering a flush pointless unless I was trying to fix ph. Which I’m not trying to fix. (The ph could be off tho, I’m just not monitoring it, that could be my downfall)
 
I don't pH either. After a bunch of research, I've decided not to. Have you seen this discussion about whether or not to adjust the pH of your nute solution? Good stuff.

Do we need to pH adjust our nutrient solutions?

Greetings all! I recently had a running email conversation with the "Grower Services & Product Development Director" at ProMix (aka Premier Tech). I began the conversation by posting a question on their website, asking if I should be treating ProMix HP as soil or soil-less when mixing...
www.420magazine.com
 
BigD13 said:
I don't pH either. After a bunch of research, I've decided not to. Have you seen this discussion about whether or not to adjust the pH of your nute solution? Good stuff.

Do we need to pH adjust our nutrient solutions?

Greetings all! I recently had a running email conversation with the "Grower Services & Product Development Director" at ProMix (aka Premier Tech). I began the conversation by posting a question on their website, asking if I should be treating ProMix HP as soil or soil-less when mixing...
www.420magazine.com
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I did read that thread... from @InTheShed I believe right.?

I’d have to read it again to comment but it taught me a couple of things. I may read it again now that you brought it up.
 
Tell you one thing. With my plants, on this second run of Blue Angel. I have PH’d my water once at the beginning. The first batch of Blue Angel, I ph’d my water three or four times all through out the grow.

With my Black diamond and green Crack, I never PhD my water.

After I add my nutrients my water is fine. I don’t even check it anymore. Mix and go!
 
Backlipslide said:
Tell you one thing. With my plants, on this second run of Blue Angel. I have PH’d my water once at the beginning. The first batch of Blue Angel, I ph’d my water three or four times all through out the grow.

With my Black diamond and green Crack, I never PhD my water.

After I add my nutrients my water is fine. I don’t even check it anymore. Mix and go!
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BigD13 said:
Yeah, I've read it several times. As I gain more knowledge, more stuff in that thread make sense to me.
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Thanks guys... I’m going to read that post again. I still have a lot to learn, although, all the knowledge in the world will not help me be less lazy. Haha. My last 2 grows I never ph’d and the first grow went off without a hitch. My last grow I saw some issues that could have been attributed to low ph possibly, but you would never be able to tell when it comes to the smoke. And ultimately, that’s all I’m after but I would like to get better and better as time goes on of course.

Anyway... we will see what happens. I’m letting them dry out more than the times before, I’m at a day longer than I would have let them go before and they still look fine but their pots are super light. They may wilt before I get home from work tomorrow but I want to dry the soil out as much as possible so we will see how this goes. A good watering with Epsom salts and liquid karma after that and hopefully we are back in track then I’ll transplant after the next dry cycle.

Wish me luck
 
Highya Mechanic,

Trust your own instincts. You're the only one who knows what you've done in the past. From my observations, the ladies need to dry out quite a lot between waterings. I've seen people compare the weight of the wet pot with a dry soil pot the same size. One uses a scale to weight plants to determine when to water.
I also see a little yellowing in some fan leaves. Obviously a nitrogen deficiency. Small, but there.

Fun learning how to grow cannabis! You'll do great. No worries. The biggest learning curve is reading the plants to see what they're telling you. Cheers
 
Thank you @Bode

I really thought I was letting them dry out enough... haha. The pots are super light, I swear the plant up top weighs more than the pot and dry soil below. I’m expecting to see them wilted when I get home today, I’d be really surprised if they weren’t. (At least the 3 that we’re watered 5 or 6 days ago)

Anyway thanks for stopping by... hopefully I can fix these babies and get to flower mode soon.
 
WW#1- Round 2 Day #16

So I have a total dry weight of the last harvest from my led tent... I didn’t take any pictures or show each bowl weighed out like I did with the AK and WW#2 but this will have to do.

I just want to get the numbers out there..

So WW#1 yielded 98 grams

And the WW#3 yielded 83.7 grams

AK-47 was 91.7 and WW#2 was 82.

So from 4 plants under 264 watts of screw in led, in a 32”x32” tent with fox farms soil I yielded a total of 355.4 grams or 1.34 grams per watt of lighting.
 
Nice harvest! I grow outside, so I'm not that familiar with grams per watt. The only thing I remember is that anything over 1g per watt is suppose to be good. Is that correct? Or something like that.
 
BigD13 said:
Nice harvest! I grow outside, so I'm not that familiar with grams per watt. The only thing I remember is that anything over 1g per watt is suppose to be good. Is that correct? Or something like that.
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Thank you... years ago I remember 1gpw being the golden standard for a lot of growers. (Just from skimming the grow sites and whatnot)
But with improvements in both HID lighting and LEDs I believe some people are pushing that standard a lot higher. I’m just happy to be somewhere close to 1gpw, I haven't been close to that mark till I started using these leds and started using soil again. (Soil is just my preference now)
 
So... I’m about to transplant 2 ladies. The 2 driest pots are going into 5 gallon pots.

I’m running the same mixture as always, 75% FFOF, and 25% FF light warrior. But I added almost 1tbsp of garden lime per gallon of soil. (For the 10 gallon batch of soil I added 8tbsp of lime.) And I also added a handful of EWC to the mix.

Here’s some pics before transplant...

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By the pictures of those roots in that short of time of being in them, I’m sorry, I hate to say I told you so...

The rate of growth for 10+ week old plant is too much and too aggressive for a 1 gal pot. Don’t get me wrong a person can start and finish in a container smaller than a 1gal pot. But! At the size of your plants, a 1 gal pot is simply too small brother.

If you were to transplant into a 5 gal container when you transplanted into the 1 gal, your plants would have bounced back and prob could have flipped them after they bounced back.

But we’re where we are, and no where to go but forwards. :thumb:
 

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