Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

Kushkillerr said:
What is the best way to contact you about ordering lights and a tent , is email the best?
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Welcome to email me, I will help you process.
This thread is best for our communication about growing and products :thanks:
 
Here's an auto ak-47, did in a 3 gallonpot with a single mars light.

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Lowded118 said:
My pleasure it's good to be here tgsnks. No I'm new. I'm just trying to improve yeilds and environments. So I'm just researching with the option.
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I am also in this filed for short time. My colleagues were in charge of 420 for many years, so there are many experienced growers in our thread. If you have any question, you can post them here, then you will get help from others. :welcome:
 
Lowded118 said:
Great thanks. I'm also looking for discounts and specials. Do they also provide that?
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Yes. May I know which product you are interested in?
 
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SOG and ScrOG Growing

The screen of green (SCROG) method is also used when height and wattage are a consideration. A screen, usually of netting, screenwire or chickenwire, is attached at a desired height above the plants. This allows the growing marijuana plants to begin to grow horizontally after reaching the height limit, thus keeping the canopy, or height, at an even level, which allows consistent light penetration into the growing plants. Many growers have a consistent high yield using this method.
ScrOG is like a SOG grow except that fewer plants are used in conjunction with a screen to fill the grow area with heavy top colas ; hence its name, ScrOG or Screen of Green. The screen is simply a large wire mesh placed between your light and the plants. Again, clones from a female plant are used, but we allow at least one square foot per flowering plant in the ScrOG method. The plants aren’t flowered until they have covered the entire mesh with green. As the plants grow up through the wire mesh they’re trained and worked around the netting to form a very even canopy. The top colas and side branches are all trained under the screen.

There are many variations of the above two methods, yet they all utilize the same principles. SOGs and ScrOGs were originally developed to get the most out of poor quality fluorescent lights. The grower would line the roof of the shelf or box with fluorescent tubes to try and get the most out of their grow. Today’s growers, using good HID bulbs, have taken these setups to a new level: pushing their buds to the limit. Some people even grow top colas that are the size of large corncobs or soda bottles! ScrOG Growing by Real High Real High is a ScrOG lover and has been growing ScrOG style for some years. He has added a bit to the ScrOG method through his experience with the process. This should help you understand more about the ScrOG method and what people have learned with this new technique.

My setup is like a SOG growing, but a screen is used to train the plant to grow horizontally, creating a canopy of buds beneath the light. The screen is simply made from chicken wire or nylon poultry fencing, or you can use hooks and 20 Ib. fishing line to make the net. This picture shows a ScrOG variation. II Is a small SerOG setup for a cabinet growing. Tins picture also contains a homemade octagonal vented hood for a 250-watl HPS light. Picture by foi.

The screen is installed at a fixed height above the plant medium. For Indica varieties the screen does not need to be much more than 8 inches above the pots. Indica Saliva hybrids need about 12 inches white Sativa plants tend to have longer internodes so you may have to use a screen that is about 18 inches above the pots. If your strain is a pure Sativa variety, like Haze or Thai, you may have to raise your screen to around 24 inches. This space allows the base of the plant a certain amount of vertical growth before branching occurs on the clone. The clone should start to branch just under the screen but if it does not do not worry because you are going to be training them anyway. The light should be suspended by adjustable chains so that it can be raised if necessary.

ScrOG growing doesn’t require as many plants as SOG (allow at least one square foot per flowering plant), but takes anywhere from one to three weeks longer per grow because we will be in the vegetative growth stage longer than a SOG grow to allow the plants to fill out.
The plants are trained to grow horizontally under the screen until they’re two weeks into the flowering cycle, at which point you let the tops grow vertically through the screen. You should always train the main growing tops from the outside of the screen moving inwards so that the colas are focused as closely as possible on the light dispersed from the bulb. You will not be able to get all of them centered under the light, but you should aim for this shape. As the tops grow vertically, push the large fan leaves down under the screen, allowing the light to get to all the developing bud sites.

If leaf growth is excessive, you can first cut fan leaves in half making a shorter leaf and allowing light to get to the bud site. Leaving half the leaf on the plant still allows it to make energy for the plant to grow. Taking a whole fan leaf away in one go can stunt growth. In about a week, you can take off the rest of the leaf. Some people don’t remove the leaf at all, but I do it to help with air movement, reduce the chance of mold or fungus and to allow more light to penetrate the bud sites. Just remember to remove a little at a time if you do remove leaf mass.

At this point flowers are forming and growing vertically, creating a carpet of bud above the screen. Now we go below the screen and remove all the lateral branches and stray bud sites. The canopy has thickened enough that light is blocked from reaching this lower growth. It’s only diverting your plants; energy away from the buds. You can remove all branches that haven’t made it to the screen and the stray bud sites but you may experience stunting. Although you want the plant to concentrate all of it’s grow energy on the developing flowers above the canopy, removing too much leaf mass and branching can prevent additional flowering.

The three main differences between a SOG and ScrOG grow are the number of plants grown, the use of a screen and the slightly longer grow cycle of the ScrOG. Both methods can be done under the same light and in soil or with hydroponics. There are many variations of the ScrOG grow; including V-ScrOG, Stadium ScrOG, Flat ScrOG and Cylinder ScrOG ; but they are all based on the same principles. They work essentially the same way but use different shapes.

One of the best strains available for your ScrOG garden is C99. You will find that a pure Indica or Indica dominant cross will produce the best in a ScrOG grow. A good ScrOG grow will average two ounces of bud per square foot of screen, but you can;t expect this the first few grows, because it takes proper timing and the correct strain to accomplish this.
ScrOG was originally designed for grow areas limited in height and lit by fluo-rescents. Today’s growers are using HID lights for growing ScrOG. They;ve taken it to the next level with these lights and are generating far greater results. Today’s grower is always trying something new to improve the production of their favorite plant. So there we have Real High explaining how he has worked with the ScrOG system. As you can see, he’s added more to the basic ScrOG grow. With experience, practice and experimentation, you too can create your own customized grow.
 
Lowded118 said:
Wow Sara, yes I am expanding my room and looking to fill with more lighting. I want to fill a 8*8 with 8-10 pots and lights to make something just a tad smaller than that ak47 lol.
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Our biggest and most powerful light is mars proII 320, 4pcs of mars proII can cover 8'x8' but as our growers' feedback, several small lights will help you to cover plants better, so you can choose proII 160. 8pcs of proII 160 will distribute light more evenly than 4pcs of large light proII320. You can click the two links to see the two lights.
ProII320: Mars Pro II Epistar 320 LED grow light for sale,buy Mars Pro II Epistar 320 LED grow light ,Led grow light , Mars Hydro
ProII160:Mars Pro II Epistar 160 LED grow light for sale,buy Mars Pro II Epistar 160 LED grow light ,Led grow light , Mars Hydro
 
Lowded118 said:
This infos is so helpful Sara. Thank you kindly. So the overlap of the 160 since it's doubled makes the equivalent 800hps comparison light? Most the grow journals quote cob lights. How do these compare to those?
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One proII 320 or 2pcs of proII 160 can replace 800--850W HPS. Did you use HPS before?
COB lights are more suitble for smaller growing size, each Mars COB can cover 2.5'x2.5' 105W draw power. I think COB yield will not be as high as proII.
 
Wow interesting. I have quite a few different LEDs. I saw amazing things under mars lights. Never used anything but led. I've only have 3 years from my first seed so I'm new and spending money foolishly. Its time to tag some proven results and get a system going. Next grow will have c99 genetics. I'll need to develop a scrog!
 
Lowded118 said:
Wow interesting. I have quite a few different LEDs. I saw amazing things under mars lights. Never used anything but led. I've only have 3 years from my first seed so I'm new and spending money foolishly. Its time to tag some proven results and get a system going. Next grow will have c99 genetics. I'll need to develop a scrog!
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Get mars they are a good light man .

You this bro .
 
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