Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

:circle-of-love:haha,so do you think we just add a curtain to seperate the main space with the seedling/VEG space will be good?
Here is the two drafts,you can tell us which design you like better,or how can we change it?:welcome:Any ideas are welcomed.:Namaste:
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well now I've totally lost interest in that tent, lol. defeats the purpose of a shared light source inside a mother tent to do your cloning. and you best use nothing higher than cfl's in that little tent or the heat will be insane.

tell your guys in engineering to stick that thing in your testing room there sara, and start a simulation grow. which brings to thought one thing I didn't see in the viewable area of testing. "moisture" it is something we deal with, and it has been stated many times that they are tested for it. but all that was shown was a room full of lights, lol.

so maybe put a couple of dwc buckets in that little tent, bubbling away, try various lights. probably what, a reflector 96? maybe some trays of wet soil on the shelf? are there 2 shelves included? I see the adjustable notion. that looks pretty good. well except for the moisture getting into the poles.

however, in closing, nothing will ever match all growers ideal situation together at any given time. but this I do say, you guys did a great job reworking the design. it does look good. you would probably sell a bunch. just not to me.
 
I understand your concerns,so you like the first drafts maybe? :Namaste:
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some great points torturedsoul.

however it has lost its luster as a mother tent in my eyes. not too many mothers hold at 1 foot in plant girth. lost the ability to hold say 3 mothers and do your cloning and vegging in one tent with one light. that was where I saw the value in the original design. just needed the extra shelf and more width (front to back) or depth if you prefer that word lol.

but as I said above, some will want it.
 
:Namaste:This two tents are totally separated,i can say it's two tents.So i think you will like these two tents actually is one,with a curtain between them,right?:high-five:
I think most of growers will like it this way.I will tell our engineer.:thanks:
the seperation wall is optional is it not? i find it very usefull if it is but i agree if not i will suck a bit. i use small 12-20 w led lights for cloning and motherplants they would fit perfect in that small room when using the seperation option and still i could put a marsII 400 in the other. i like it very much. if it was a permanent seperation it would suck indeed but not if its optional
 
:Namaste:Our engineer thought it will be easier for grower to put these tents in your home .It will enable you to put it anywhere you like,but i think not many growers like it.:Namaste:
actually klovneposen, it is two separate tents. that's why I replied the way I did. it lost it's usefulness to me almost completely.

you can clearly see it in the pic.

and in the description it even says so.
 
:high-five:I think i didn't explain it clearly to our engineer,and when i upload the pics,i should also upload two pics shows they are actually separated.:Namaste:
or i misunderstood the distcription. i asked sara to try adding a seperation wall with a zipper or some velcro or something like that. I checked the pictures on my phone (with a smashed up screen never the less *LOL*) so did'nt see it properly untill now on the laptop. i thought my wish had come tru. my bad m8. i am fully with you then on this one. it should be on multipurpose tent not two tents :)
 
:circle-of-love:It's no problem. You always can give me good advices.:welcome:
A 250-watt HPS would work in a 2'x3' space, given sufficient volume (IOW, assuming a reasonable height). In my opinion, that would require lowering the shelf a bit more than halfway down if one wanted to use that area for both general vegetative and cloning/seedling, but that should still work. That is, of course, assuming a reasonable ambient temperature of the space the tent is in, along with a correctly sized exhaust fan - but the same holds true as a general rule for most any grow space. The lower space could then still be used for seedlings and rooting cuttings (clones), with some lesser form of illumination - which would be perfectly adequate, as those two things require less than general vegetative growth or flowering. A 250-watt MH (err... metal halide, not Mars-Hydro ;) ) could also be used, but would produce slightly more heat than a 250-watt HPS.

The shelf could be raised to halfway, and either or both of the levels of that secondary tent illuminated with T5 (, T8, or even the older T12) fluorescent tubes.

And, of course, Mars-Hydro is an LED grow light panel manufacturer, so one should be able to find one of their lighting products which would work well in that space.

It might be difficult (NOT impossible) to create a setup in which bright lights could be used in the secondary tent when ambient room temperatures are wickedly hot - but the same would be true to a lesser extent for any grow setup of comparable size.



Always a good idea when designing gardening products. Due to the local laws in China, it is highly unlikely that they would be able to use cannabis plants, sadly. But it would not be a huge challenge to find a plant that is equally light-loving (or near enough) and which has fairly comparable growth characteristics.



A good exhaust fan should not only pull fresh cool(er) air into and through the tent, it should also pull fresh dry(er) air into and through it, lol. But I agree that testing for robustness against moisture/humidity - both for extended periods of time and for abrupt daily shifts (to simulate the grow of one who fails to manage their grow environment correctly, for example, by shutting off the exhaust fan when the lights go off instead of merely reducing its power) - should be a given for a gardening product of this nature. Things like non-porous surfaces/materials, ease of cleaning, resistance of the frame materials to rust/corrosion (if the material used needs to be painted/coated to guard against it, this painting/coating should be done on both the outside of these pieces AND the inside, since - like automobiles - hollow frame pieces might be susceptible to holding moisture inside and, therefore, see damage begin on the inner surfaces first), et cetera. Giving a good description of any and all "torture testing" that you put your products through - along with the results of same - would look well in the products description, and it would be reasonable to assume such things would also help sell the product. These days, people are not satisfied with merely reading that a product is a good one, they wish to be able to read how/why this is so, lol.



So very true. My ideal "grow setup" would change somewhat depending on whether it was the height of Summer or the dark of Winter. With that being said... I think that they are in the process of producing a product that I could work with year-round - and I do not have perfect control over my environment (in fact, far from it :sad: ) . Those who DO have the ability to control ambient temperatures and humidity would be likely to find a grow tent (in general) to be even easier to work with, and to have more choices in terms of their setup.

Still... No, one cannot please all of the people, all of the time. Perhaps in the future, if they continue to improve their grow tent products, and they continue to sell well, they might expand to the extent that they can offer multiple lines which each focus on a different set of conditions/requirements.



Mother plants can be trained just like those in flower, lol.
Bonsai Mothers
All About Bonsai Mums!
How do you maintain/prune mother plants?

But I would consider a 1' depth to be somewhat limiting, too. I would much rather see a 2' depth to go along with a width of 3' (for a 3'x3' tent) or 4' (for a 4'x4' tent).



I could fit three mother plants on a 2'x3' shelf (or, I suppose, on a 1'x3' one - but I would rather not), along with some rooting cuttings to either end, and some (short) plants in vegetative growth below. It wouldn't supply a flowering room of massive proportions, but it would service a 3'x3' flowering area, especially if one went with a perpetual setup instead of trying to fill the flowering side all at once.



To be honest, I would guess that most people would have the ability to supply their own shelving unit. The true value would be in a rectangular-shaped tent with a light-proof divider separating it into two unequal-sized spaces and separate access/ventilation/electrical openings for each space. IMHO, of course. As in all things, "YMMV" applies, of course.

A grower who desired a larger setup (one who operated for profit, selling the harvest, for example) might want a larger, separate flowering tent and use a tent that was a combination of a 3'x3' space and a 2'x3' space as a combination of only vegetative (the main space) and mother (top or bottom of the secondary space) plus an area for rooting cuttings (the portion of the secondary space which was not used for mother plants). I am (long) past the point when I sold cannabis, but I could envision returning to a slightly larger grow setup, because I seem to have gotten older when I wasn't looking (lol) and both I and my family/friends have both more health issues and more significant ones. Plus, it would be nice to have room (and the setup) to be able to breed cannabis again. But, for me, such things seem a long way off now. I can, however, see where a person would have a use for multiple tents (up to a dozen or more, lol) even if they are lucky enough to have large separate vegetative and flowering areas, simply because it would allow them to segregate strains, males, experiment with different lighting/environmental conditions, et cetera. Grow tents can be very useful items, and can help one create little mini biospheres (so to speak).

My apologies to Sara for rambling a bit in her thread.
 
:thumb:They look awesome.:cheertwo:
They are the queen,they got enough lights they needed.:goodjob:I like sugars...:volcano-smiley::volcano-smiley:pretty buds.:cheertwo::cheertwo:

Thatnk sara

just the clarify its not they its just one (there is one plant not multible) but yeah she did a good job with the low wattage i used at the bigging i think.
 
:bravo:they are nice.Thy are near to harvest,right?:cheertwo:
I have 11 of there lights and they are all 2 1/2 to 3 years old, I have replaced a few leds but they are a good light. Have a look at my grow and you will see they grow good bud.:thumb:
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Congratulations! You and your girls will like the new light.:cheertwo:
Did you place order from our official website? I can check the tracking No for you.:high-five:
Just what I love to hear and great buds! I just ordered a reflector 144 for my flower tent to go with my vipar spectra 600w and my 2 Mars 300w panels will go into the veg 4x4 with my 4 ft 4 bulb t5(: hope that'll be an adequate set up!


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:welcome:Thank you Austin084.:thanks:So you like to use Toll delivery,right? We used AUpost,but they damaged our goods during delivering,so we have to find another company.:Namaste:
We will check Toll delivery,thank you again.:high-five:
Toll delivered my Mars2 700, it arrived quickly and undamaged ... Can't wait to put her to use


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Usually we recommend hanging distance from canopy:
germination 24-30inches above the plants
veg:18-24 inches above the plants
flower:12-18 inches above the plants
Our recommendation is just for you reference ,you need to adjust it to a better distance according to their react.:high-five:
Reflector192 and Mars600::Namaste:
1 Reflector192 is with switches,you can control spectrum settings between Growth / Bloom Mode.:thumb:
2 The design is different:Mars 600 uses glass cover ,which will reduce some light. However, Reflector192 use reflection board ,which will reflect maximum light back to the plants compared to Mars600
3 The coverage is different.
4 Reflector192 series with IR diodes,IR promote cell division,helps germination,leaf building and flowering,which Mars 600 not have.
You will like Reflector 192 over Mars600.:high-five:
I just recently got 2 Mars Hydro 600w. What's the recommended distance from the canopy? What's the equivalent of these compared to hps?

How would a reflector 192 compare to the 2x 600 LEDs?
 
:cheertwo:I thought there are two plants.She got big buds.:thumb:She is beautiful and heavy.:bravo::bravo:
Thatnk sara

just the clarify its not they its just one (there is one plant not multible) but yeah she did a good job with the low wattage i used at the bigging i think.
 
:welcome:American growers,do not hesitate to place the order,this only last for one month.:high-five:It will ends on August 15th.:cheertwo::cheertwo:
:surf::surf:Reflecotr192 20% off on Amazon.(USA only)
Original price is $345.99USD,now is only $276.79USD,saved $69.2USD.:thumb:The price will back to original price on August 16th.Hurry up .:cheertwo:
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:high-five:Our friend here recommended Toll Delivery,how do you think? :welcome:
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Australia customers:We need your genius ideas now.:Namaste:
Recently,many customers complained that their goods has been damaged during deliver,it caused by the careless deliver.:Namaste:We used AU Post,you guys can recommend some delivery company to us,which can offer good service to you guys.:welcome:
 
:welcome:Thank you Austin084.:thanks:So you like to use Toll delivery,right? We used AUpost,but they damaged our goods during delivering,so we have to find another company.:Namaste:
We will check Toll delivery,thank you again.:high-five:

Absolutely! I ordered my light on a Friday, it was posted via Toll delivery Monday and arrived on my doorstep Wednesday morning safe and sound. That's pretty impressive service .


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:circle-of-love:We got some good ideas about our new design,we found out that most of our growers like our first draft than our second one.
The mobile Grid platform is acceptable,but the completely separate space isn't an good idea.I will tell our engineer clearly about it,we may just need add a zipper door or a curtain between this two space.:high-five:
:Namaste:Any more ideas are welcomed, we will try our best to design a better tent for guys according to your needs.:welcome:
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Our first draft:
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:bravo:That is very good,safe and fast is what we need for our customer and goods.:thumb:
We had used Tool delivery before for a long time,but the same problem from them,maybe they offer better service now?:Namaste:
May i know how many plants you have?:Namaste:
Absolutely! I ordered my light on a Friday, it was posted via Toll delivery Monday and arrived on my doorstep Wednesday morning safe and sound. That's pretty impressive service .


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:bravo:That is very good,safe and fast is what we need for our customer and goods.:thumb:
We had used Tool delivery before for a long time,but the same problem from them,maybe they offer better service now?:Namaste:
May i know how many plants you have?:Namaste:

Just the one, I like to train ..


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