Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

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:circle-of-love:New tent update! let's look at the new functions:
1.The zipper front door.
2.A mobile tool bag outside the tent.
3.A separate germinating tent aside the grow tent,you can put the two tents together or separate.
4 Except the front door, each of the walls has a obervation window and vent on the beneath.
Any new ideas are welcomed.:welcome:
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So the wet trimmed weight on the Goldmine is finally in. 623g

vegged under 48x5 Mars reflector series (100w usage)

Flowered first 14 days or so under the 48x5w.

Then put under the MarsII 400. (200w usage)

Then in the middle of week 4 i added the 48x5 as a site light. (300w total usage when going at full blast)

Grown in 26L smart pot. with reused biobizz light mix soil 50% and medeteranian citrus soil mix 40% and 10% clay pellets

using Biobizz nutes - Grow, Bloom, topmax, aloe vera, Alg-a-mig and rootjuice at the beginning.
+ GHE merenal magic. bubbled waters with the ph set at around 6,5-7
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:circle-of-love:New tent update! let's look at the new functions:
1.The zipper front door.
2.A mobile tool bag outside the tent.
3.A separate germinating tent aside the grow tent,you can put the two tents together or separate.
4 Except the front door, each of the walls has a obervation window and vent on the beneath.
Any new ideas are welcomed.:welcome:
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NICE! - please convey my compliments to your engineer.

That would make a nice design for a 3'x3' tent with the additional space being 2'x3' or possibly even 1'x3'. Together, it would still be small enough at 3'x3' (or 3'x4') to fit in most spaces, yet provides for both vegetative (various purposes - seedlings, cuttings/clones, and general vegetative growth) and flowering. In my opinion, one's vegetative space does not need to be as large as one's flowering space (since filling a vegetative space of equal size would end up producing an overcrowded flowering area, IMHO).

I like that the tool storage is on the exterior of the tent. Some might wish it to be inside the tent, but I would rather have as much space inside the tent as possible for the plants, lol, and share that space only with things that must be inside it (light(s), et cetera).

The adjustable shelving in the side tent area could potentially double that space's utility, especially if it is strong enough to both hold plants (which could weigh a bit, due to the moisture content in the soil/medium) plus whichever light the grower wishes to hang from the bottom of it.

I would like to see some sort of access on the side that does not have the "extra" tent attached (or, possibly, the rear). Even in a tent that is only 3'x3', it is difficult (and, depending on the grow, can be impossible in practical terms) to reach through the plants to get to the rear from the front access door without disturbing or moving the plants that are in the way. If the grower is using a screen ("scrog") then moving those plants out of the way is simply not an option. This hypothetical secondary access need not be a full-sized door, but it should be of a size that would allow the grower to just reach down to the floor (or at least nearly so) and up to the top of the tent (or within a foot or so of it). I do not envision this secondary access point to be used for the initial filling (or the emptying at harvest) of the tent, merely a way to perform needed maintenance/work. However, it would be nice if the grower had the ability to remove an "average" sized plant - for example, one that is being grown in a five-gallon bucket) in the event that the plant becomes sick or diseased and must be removed in order to save the grow. But that, thankfully, is rare - having to work in one's garden happens in every grow, lol.

About the only other thing that I can think of off the top of my head would be if your engineer could magically find a way to make the reflective material completely non-wrinkled and absolutely straight, lol. But then it would no longer be a tent, it'd be a rigid-walled structure ;) .

As long as the product has a reasonable (good) amount of height, it should sell well.
 
well now I've totally lost interest in that tent, lol. defeats the purpose of a shared light source inside a mother tent to do your cloning. and you best use nothing higher than cfl's in that little tent or the heat will be insane.

tell your guys in engineering to stick that thing in your testing room there sara, and start a simulation grow. which brings to thought one thing I didn't see in the viewable area of testing. "moisture" it is something we deal with, and it has been stated many times that they are tested for it. but all that was shown was a room full of lights, lol.

so maybe put a couple of dwc buckets in that little tent, bubbling away, try various lights. probably what, a reflector 96? maybe some trays of wet soil on the shelf? are there 2 shelves included? I see the adjustable notion. that looks pretty good. well except for the moisture getting into the poles.

however, in closing, nothing will ever match all growers ideal situation together at any given time. but this I do say, you guys did a great job reworking the design. it does look good. you would probably sell a bunch. just not to me.
 
some great points torturedsoul.

however it has lost its luster as a mother tent in my eyes. not too many mothers hold at 1 foot in plant girth. lost the ability to hold say 3 mothers and do your cloning and vegging in one tent with one light. that was where I saw the value in the original design. just needed the extra shelf and more width (front to back) or depth if you prefer that word lol.

but as I said above, some will want it.
 
well now I've totally lost interest in that tent, lol. defeats the purpose of a shared light source inside a mother tent to do your cloning. and you best use nothing higher than cfl's in that little tent or the heat will be insane.

tell your guys in engineering to stick that thing in your testing room there sara, and start a simulation grow. which brings to thought one thing I didn't see in the viewable area of testing. "moisture" it is something we deal with, and it has been stated many times that they are tested for it. but all that was shown was a room full of lights, lol.

so maybe put a couple of dwc buckets in that little tent, bubbling away, try various lights. probably what, a reflector 96? maybe some trays of wet soil on the shelf? are there 2 shelves included? I see the adjustable notion. that looks pretty good. well except for the moisture getting into the poles.

however, in closing, nothing will ever match all growers ideal situation together at any given time. but this I do say, you guys did a great job reworking the design. it does look good. you would probably sell a bunch. just not to me.

the seperation wall is optional is it not? i find it very usefull if it is but i agree if not i will suck a bit. i use small 12-20 w led lights for cloning and motherplants they would fit perfect in that small room when using the seperation option and still i could put a marsII 400 in the other. i like it very much. if it was a permanent seperation it would suck indeed but not if its optional
 
actually klovneposen, it is two separate tents. that's why I replied the way I did. it lost it's usefulness to me almost completely.

you can clearly see it in the pic.

and in the description it even says so.
 
or i misunderstood the distcription. i asked sara to try adding a seperation wall with a zipper or some velcro or something like that. I checked the pictures on my phone (with a smashed up screen never the less *LOL*) so did'nt see it properly untill now on the laptop. i thought my wish had come tru. my bad m8. i am fully with you then on this one. it should be on multipurpose tent not two tents :)
 
and you best use nothing higher than cfl's in that little tent or the heat will be insane.

A 250-watt HPS would work in a 2'x3' space, given sufficient volume (IOW, assuming a reasonable height). In my opinion, that would require lowering the shelf a bit more than halfway down if one wanted to use that area for both general vegetative and cloning/seedling, but that should still work. That is, of course, assuming a reasonable ambient temperature of the space the tent is in, along with a correctly sized exhaust fan - but the same holds true as a general rule for most any grow space. The lower space could then still be used for seedlings and rooting cuttings (clones), with some lesser form of illumination - which would be perfectly adequate, as those two things require less than general vegetative growth or flowering. A 250-watt MH (err... metal halide, not Mars-Hydro ;) ) could also be used, but would produce slightly more heat than a 250-watt HPS.

The shelf could be raised to halfway, and either or both of the levels of that secondary tent illuminated with T5 (, T8, or even the older T12) fluorescent tubes.

And, of course, Mars-Hydro is an LED grow light panel manufacturer, so one should be able to find one of their lighting products which would work well in that space.

It might be difficult (NOT impossible) to create a setup in which bright lights could be used in the secondary tent when ambient room temperatures are wickedly hot - but the same would be true to a lesser extent for any grow setup of comparable size.

tell your guys in engineering to stick that thing in your testing room there sara, and start a simulation grow.

Always a good idea when designing gardening products. Due to the local laws in China, it is highly unlikely that they would be able to use cannabis plants, sadly. But it would not be a huge challenge to find a plant that is equally light-loving (or near enough) and which has fairly comparable growth characteristics.

which brings to thought one thing I didn't see in the viewable area of testing. "moisture" it is something we deal with, and it has been stated many times that they are tested for it. but all that was shown was a room full of lights, lol.

so maybe put a couple of dwc buckets in that little tent, bubbling away, try various lights. probably what, a reflector 96? maybe some trays of wet soil on the shelf? are there 2 shelves included? I see the adjustable notion. that looks pretty good. well except for the moisture getting into the poles.

A good exhaust fan should not only pull fresh cool(er) air into and through the tent, it should also pull fresh dry(er) air into and through it, lol. But I agree that testing for robustness against moisture/humidity - both for extended periods of time and for abrupt daily shifts (to simulate the grow of one who fails to manage their grow environment correctly, for example, by shutting off the exhaust fan when the lights go off instead of merely reducing its power) - should be a given for a gardening product of this nature. Things like non-porous surfaces/materials, ease of cleaning, resistance of the frame materials to rust/corrosion (if the material used needs to be painted/coated to guard against it, this painting/coating should be done on both the outside of these pieces AND the inside, since - like automobiles - hollow frame pieces might be susceptible to holding moisture inside and, therefore, see damage begin on the inner surfaces first), et cetera. Giving a good description of any and all "torture testing" that you put your products through - along with the results of same - would look well in the products description, and it would be reasonable to assume such things would also help sell the product. These days, people are not satisfied with merely reading that a product is a good one, they wish to be able to read how/why this is so, lol.

however, in closing, nothing will ever match all growers ideal situation together at any given time.

So very true. My ideal "grow setup" would change somewhat depending on whether it was the height of Summer or the dark of Winter. With that being said... I think that they are in the process of producing a product that I could work with year-round - and I do not have perfect control over my environment (in fact, far from it :sad: ) . Those who DO have the ability to control ambient temperatures and humidity would be likely to find a grow tent (in general) to be even easier to work with, and to have more choices in terms of their setup.

Still... No, one cannot please all of the people, all of the time. Perhaps in the future, if they continue to improve their grow tent products, and they continue to sell well, they might expand to the extent that they can offer multiple lines which each focus on a different set of conditions/requirements.

however it has lost its luster as a mother tent in my eyes. not too many mothers hold at 1 foot in plant girth.

Mother plants can be trained just like those in flower, lol.
Bonsai Mothers
All About Bonsai Mums!
How do you maintain/prune mother plants?

But I would consider a 1' depth to be somewhat limiting, too. I would much rather see a 2' depth to go along with a width of 3' (for a 3'x3' tent) or 4' (for a 4'x4' tent).

lost the ability to hold say 3 mothers and do your cloning and vegging in one tent with one light.

I could fit three mother plants on a 2'x3' shelf (or, I suppose, on a 1'x3' one - but I would rather not), along with some rooting cuttings to either end, and some (short) plants in vegetative growth below. It wouldn't supply a flowering room of massive proportions, but it would service a 3'x3' flowering area, especially if one went with a perpetual setup instead of trying to fill the flowering side all at once.

that was where I saw the value in the original design. just needed the extra shelf and more width (front to back) or depth if you prefer that word lol.

To be honest, I would guess that most people would have the ability to supply their own shelving unit. The true value would be in a rectangular-shaped tent with a light-proof divider separating it into two unequal-sized spaces and separate access/ventilation/electrical openings for each space. IMHO, of course. As in all things, "YMMV" applies, of course.

A grower who desired a larger setup (one who operated for profit, selling the harvest, for example) might want a larger, separate flowering tent and use a tent that was a combination of a 3'x3' space and a 2'x3' space as a combination of only vegetative (the main space) and mother (top or bottom of the secondary space) plus an area for rooting cuttings (the portion of the secondary space which was not used for mother plants). I am (long) past the point when I sold cannabis, but I could envision returning to a slightly larger grow setup, because I seem to have gotten older when I wasn't looking (lol) and both I and my family/friends have both more health issues and more significant ones. Plus, it would be nice to have room (and the setup) to be able to breed cannabis again. But, for me, such things seem a long way off now. I can, however, see where a person would have a use for multiple tents (up to a dozen or more, lol) even if they are lucky enough to have large separate vegetative and flowering areas, simply because it would allow them to segregate strains, males, experiment with different lighting/environmental conditions, et cetera. Grow tents can be very useful items, and can help one create little mini biospheres (so to speak).

My apologies to Sara for rambling a bit in her thread.
 
Alright guys so I have a question to all who own/have owned Mars hydro 300w lights. I was just curious on the life span of these lights? I've seen mixed reviews and just trying to get things straight haha. Anyways, thanks!


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I have 11 of there lights and they are all 2 1/2 to 3 years old, I have replaced a few leds but they are a good light. Have a look at my grow and you will see they grow good bud.:thumb:
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I have 11 of there lights and they are all 2 1/2 to 3 years old, I have replaced a few leds but they are a good light. Have a look at my grow and you will see they grow good bud.:thumb:
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Just what I love to hear and great buds! I just ordered a reflector 144 for my flower tent to go with my vipar spectra 600w and my 2 Mars 300w panels will go into the veg 4x4 with my 4 ft 4 bulb t5(: hope that'll be an adequate set up!


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I just recently got 2 Mars Hydro 600w. What's the recommended distance from the canopy? What's the equivalent of these compared to hps?

How would a reflector 192 compare to the 2x 600 LEDs?
 
:thumb:They look awesome.:cheertwo:
They are the queen,they got enough lights they needed.:goodjob:I like sugars...:volcano-smiley::volcano-smiley:pretty buds.:cheertwo::cheertwo:
So the wet trimmed weight on the Goldmine is finally in. 623g

vegged under 48x5 Mars reflector series (100w usage)

Flowered first 14 days or so under the 48x5w.

Then put under the MarsII 400. (200w usage)

Then in the middle of week 4 i added the 48x5 as a site light. (300w total usage when going at full blast)

Grown in 26L smart pot. with reused biobizz light mix soil 50% and medeteranian citrus soil mix 40% and 10% clay pellets

using Biobizz nutes - Grow, Bloom, topmax, aloe vera, Alg-a-mig and rootjuice at the beginning.
+ GHE merenal magic. bubbled waters with the ph set at around 6,5-7
20160722_172337.jpg
20160722_172359.jpg
20160722_172411.jpg
20160722_172330.jpg
20160722_172321.jpg
20160722_172317.jpg
 
:cheertwo:Our engineer did their job very fast.:volcano-smiley:
So you think seperate the main space with the small space for VEG is a good idea? It will enable you to put them anywhere in your room.You can put them together,or you can put one here,put one there.haha:high-five:
Do u think we need add observation window in the middle of the tent?:Namaste:
wow sara you guys updated that tent pretty quickly :) and now it just looks even more AWESOME. great seperation solution you guys came up with. that just upped the tent a level or two in my book.
 
HiTortured Soul,Thanks for your genius ideas.:thanks::thanks:
I consulted with our engineer that the Grid Platform can support around 20KG. It mobile,so it solved the problem that different needs for the height of the Grid platform.:high-five::high-five:
:thumb:Yeah,last time several growers adviced to put the tool bag outside of the tent would be better,so this time we did it.
:goodjob::goodjob:About the front door,i think you gave us a good point,if we make the zipper lower or closer to the floor,it will be better for grower to remove their plants.:bravo:I will tell our engineer.:Namaste:
NICE! - please convey my compliments to your engineer.

That would make a nice design for a 3'x3' tent with the additional space being 2'x3' or possibly even 1'x3'. Together, it would still be small enough at 3'x3' (or 3'x4') to fit in most spaces, yet provides for both vegetative (various purposes - seedlings, cuttings/clones, and general vegetative growth) and flowering. In my opinion, one's vegetative space does not need to be as large as one's flowering space (since filling a vegetative space of equal size would end up producing an overcrowded flowering area, IMHO).

I like that the tool storage is on the exterior of the tent. Some might wish it to be inside the tent, but I would rather have as much space inside the tent as possible for the plants, lol, and share that space only with things that must be inside it (light(s), et cetera).

The adjustable shelving in the side tent area could potentially double that space's utility, especially if it is strong enough to both hold plants (which could weigh a bit, due to the moisture content in the soil/medium) plus whichever light the grower wishes to hang from the bottom of it.

I would like to see some sort of access on the side that does not have the "extra" tent attached (or, possibly, the rear). Even in a tent that is only 3'x3', it is difficult (and, depending on the grow, can be impossible in practical terms) to reach through the plants to get to the rear from the front access door without disturbing or moving the plants that are in the way. If the grower is using a screen ("scrog") then moving those plants out of the way is simply not an option. This hypothetical secondary access need not be a full-sized door, but it should be of a size that would allow the grower to just reach down to the floor (or at least nearly so) and up to the top of the tent (or within a foot or so of it). I do not envision this secondary access point to be used for the initial filling (or the emptying at harvest) of the tent, merely a way to perform needed maintenance/work. However, it would be nice if the grower had the ability to remove an "average" sized plant - for example, one that is being grown in a five-gallon bucket) in the event that the plant becomes sick or diseased and must be removed in order to save the grow. But that, thankfully, is rare - having to work in one's garden happens in every grow, lol.

About the only other thing that I can think of off the top of my head would be if your engineer could magically find a way to make the reflective material completely non-wrinkled and absolutely straight, lol. But then it would no longer be a tent, it'd be a rigid-walled structure ;) .

As long as the product has a reasonable (good) amount of height, it should sell well.
 
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