Magnus8's Canna Cream, Body Butter & Canna Lotion Study Hall
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Skullman420
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Here is a recipe for a cream I was planning to test out. Maybe the people in here who knows more about this could help me modify this recipe into a better one before I do an attempt?
Providing excellent local pain relief without psychoactive effects, topical cannabis creams are becoming increasingly popular among medicinal marijuana patients.
What are they?
Topicals, as they are known, are a form of marijuana extract suspended in cream that patients apply directly to where they need it. They come as salves (coconut oil based), and creams (Shea Butter).
Salves are better for treating skin conditions since it is not as easily absorbed into the skin, whereas creams are effective for pain relief since they are absorbed quickly.
How do they work?
Cannabinoids in the cannabis creams, particularly THC and CBD, are absorbed through the skin.
Since the cannabinoid receptors CB-1 and CB-2 are found throughout the body, including the skin, the cannabinoids in the ointment are absorbed where they are needed, making cannabis creams effective local pain reducers and anti-inflammatory.
When smoking or eating cannabis, the cannabinoids enter the bloodstream affecting the whole body——ointments allow patients to treat specifically where it hurts.
Patients suffering from arthritis, skin conditions, back pain, and a myriad of other ailments use cannabis creams to relieve their symptoms. Clinical studies have even found cannabis ointment to be an effective treatment for antibiotic-resistant bugs like MRSA.
The topical application produces none of the psychoactive effects of the cannabis, and has almost immediate results for pain relief, thus making cannabis creams desirable to a wide range of patients.
Although using cannabis ointment won't get you high, you can still fail a urine analysis test.
How to Make Your Cannabis Cream:
Ingredients:
CANNABIS CREAMS: WHAT ARE THEY AND HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN
Providing excellent local pain relief without psychoactive effects, topical cannabis creams are becoming increasingly popular among medicinal marijuana patients.
What are they?
Topicals, as they are known, are a form of marijuana extract suspended in cream that patients apply directly to where they need it. They come as salves (coconut oil based), and creams (Shea Butter).
Salves are better for treating skin conditions since it is not as easily absorbed into the skin, whereas creams are effective for pain relief since they are absorbed quickly.
How do they work?
Cannabinoids in the cannabis creams, particularly THC and CBD, are absorbed through the skin.
When smoking or eating cannabis, the cannabinoids enter the bloodstream affecting the whole body——ointments allow patients to treat specifically where it hurts.
Patients suffering from arthritis, skin conditions, back pain, and a myriad of other ailments use cannabis creams to relieve their symptoms. Clinical studies have even found cannabis ointment to be an effective treatment for antibiotic-resistant bugs like MRSA.
The topical application produces none of the psychoactive effects of the cannabis, and has almost immediate results for pain relief, thus making cannabis creams desirable to a wide range of patients.
How to Make Your Cannabis Cream:
Ingredients:
- 16oz Coconut Oil or Shea Butter
- 1oz Marijuana Trim and Stems (flower also works, but wouldn't you rather smoke it?)
- 1-2oz Beeswax
- 1 Tablespoon of Vitamin E Oil
- Slow Cooker
- Aroma Therapy Oils (optional)
- Healing Oils (optional)
- Cheesecloth
- Large Pot
- Funnel
- Container with lid (for storing finished cream)
- Melt coconut oil in slow cooker on low heat (never heat oils above low setting)
- Coarsely grind plant material and stir into slow cooker with melted oil
- Cook on low for 12 — 24 hours. Note: Turn slow cooker off when you are away or sleeping, leaving it unattended can be a fire hazard.
- When the coconut oil and cannabis mixture is a deep brownish green, your salve is ready
- Strain mixture through cheesecloth into your container, squeezing the plant matter tightly to get everything out
- Over low heat melt beeswax in large pot on the stove top
- Slowly add marijuana mixture
- Spoon a small amount of salve into a cup and allow to cool to test for consistency. Add more beeswax to large pot to thicken it up. Reheat as necessary to melt the beeswax.
- Once the desired consistency is reached, add Vitamin E oil (for preservative and skin health) and any aromatherapy or additional healing oils you wish
- Return to container and allow to cool before usefully
Dave Groomer
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I would read back through this journal. My original cream was made with coconut oil. Not good for skin. I switched to grape seed oil and it absorbs much better and doesn't leave an oily feel. 
Unless you have troublemaking pets, children or irresponsible adults, a slow cooker is about as likely to start a house fire as your furnace. This warning is just lawyer weasel words. I have no qualms about leaving a covered slow cooker on all day while I do something else. They are designed to be started and left unattended.
I totally agree with this. I use my slow cooker overnight on a regular basis. They are meant to cook foods for very long times without fussing with them, and they don't know night from day hours.
Skullman420
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Indeed I do have a few of thoseWouldn't leave a slow cooker anywhere near them
Thanks for posting the recipe and instructions. Please let us know what you choose to do with it.
In one part of the recipe they call it a "salve" which is different than a cream or lotion. I am interested in how thick this comes out.
Skullman420
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I am curious myself how thick it will become. After reading this thread I think I would go for shea butter rather than coconut oil. Except for that I do like this recipe. I was planning to use the stems and big leaves from my current grow to make this. I don't want to use anything actually containing THC. That I want to smoke I am using a cannabis cream based on hemp-seeds right now and it's the best cream I ever used. Fixed my dry cracked skin issues in a short amount of time. My hopes are that I will be able to make something with this quality for my skin. Hoping we can figure it out together in this thread
I am using a cannabis cream based on hemp-seeds right now and it's the best cream I ever used. Fixed my dry cracked skin issues in a short amount of time. My hopes are that I will be able to make something with this quality for my skin. Hoping we can figure it out together in this thread
Now this is the kind of recipe I can work with. I'm a person who enjoys cooking and part of the enjoyment for me is reading and following a recipe and this one is just perfect in my opinion (other than the font size, which I found a little small so I hope you don't mind that I made it bigger in my reply).
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Magnus8
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Now this is the kind of recipe I can work with. I'm a person who enjoys cooking and part of the enjoyment for me is reading and following a recipe and this one is just perfect in my opinion (other than the font size, which I found a little small so I hope you don't mind that I made it bigger in my reply).
Actually, this recipe has many problems with it.
First of all, I agree with everything that has been said before my reply. Coconut Oil is a great carrier oil when you are making edibles. It is an abysmal carrier oil when producing topicals. Please read what has happened before in our study hall. It will be very instructive to you.
Shea Butter is also an abysmal Carrier Oil for a recipe like this. Shea Butter, though very thick and viscous thereby helping to thicken the recipe to salve-like proportions, is very, very greasy. If you use Shea Butter as your primary Carrier Oil, you will be producing a thick, but very oily product that will be very uncomfortable to use. Who wants to be slathered in grease? That's what Shea Butter will give you.
Try a carrier oil such as Grape Seed Oil, Pumpkin Seed Oil, Fractionated Coconut Oil (NOTE: I said FRACTIONATED Coconut Oil), or similar oils. If you still want to use Shea Butter in your recipe, and there are many reasons to do so as it helps to heal the skin while leaving it very soft and supple, then keep the Shea Butter down to about 2% - 4% of your total ingredients.
As for Beeswax, if you are using any of these other oils, you will need to increase its amount to between 5% - 8% of your total ingredients.
Nothing wrong with setting these oils up in a crock pot for the day or overnight. They WILL NOT cause a fire. DO NOT heat them on the stove, however.
If you are using leaves or trim, then increase your amount to 1.5 ounces. One ounce for buds/flowers and 1.5 ounces for leaves/trim.
I don't know where you copied this recipe from, but as a topical, it just doesn't work. Again, please go back and read the preceeding pages. They will instruct you immensely.
A couple more things. For your topical to be effective, you MUST use a strain that is high in THC. The higher in THC the better your topical will be. Also, you might want to decarboxylate your cannabis before using it in the recipe. The heat of the slow cooker should be enough to decarboxylate it, but slow cookers are notoriously various in the temperatures they reach. If yours doesn't reach a high enough temperature, then your cannabis won't decarboxylate. If it doesn't decarboxylate then it won't work at all. Might as well be spreading baby food on your aching muscles for all the good it will do!
Hey, and good luck with your endeavours! We all start out from somewhere. And congratulations to you for asking for help!
Dave Groomer
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I would add one thing to this. Having made a lot of oil with trim, I usually use 3g of trim or 1g of bud per oz of oil.
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Magnus8
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I would add one thing to this. Having made a lot of oil with trim, I usually use 3g of trim or 1g of bud per oz of oil.
Thanks, SG.
I've always heard 1.5 g of trim compares to 1 g of bud/flower, but if in your experience the g works out better, I stand corrected. Thanks so much for informing me, as I intend to harvest as much of the plant as I can harvest for medicinal purposes.
Cheers!
I've caught up to page eight Magnus. I was looking for supergroomer's cream formula. I've a dear friend who asked me to make a cream for her mother, in hopes of relieving the tension of headaches she's been getting since she fell and smacked her head on the fridge.They've checked her out and didn't find any damage to explain the reaccuring head pain, so we're thinking a pain cream might free things up enough to offer some relief.
4 grams of Carnival.......
4 ounces of grape seed oil
Shake every hour until I turn into someone who sleeps, and then every time I think of it from then on.
36 hours at the lowest setting, which in my oven is 170 degrees F.
I'll bake it for the next 36 hours
Continuing on: The infused oil got strained. I use a piece of silkscreen silk, I believe it's 125 tpi, for this job. I find it easier to squeese every last drop out using the silk.
Supergroomer's measurements were for 2 cups of oil to 1.3 oz of beeswax. I'm working with a small batch, so my final measurements worked out to .25 oz of beeswax and 2 oz of the infused grape seed oil.
One ounce of the infused oil with the grated beeswax melted over a double boiler.
After the wax is melted, add the remaining 1 oz of infused oil. Let it sit aside until it begins to form a skin.
Whisk like mad to get some air incorporated into the topical.
This was easier to whisk up than the previous one I made, and it's way less waxy. I like the buttery texture of it. Where the one I already have, with a higher ratio of wax, works well for the feet, (I rub some into the dry patches every time I put on shoes and socks to go out - my feet have never looked this good in the middle of the winter) this one will work better for the intended patient. It absorbs into the skin better. I miss the coconut smell.
This is a mix I can't use for myself, at least on any of the patches that have psoriasis. If it works for my friend's mother I'll send her the rest of it.
Thank you all for your hard work at experimenting over here. You made my life easier, and I appreciate it.
Thanks for clarifying that the actual recipe has several problems with it. I guess the thing I liked most about it was just the formatting of it and the exact measurements, etc., more like a real recipe, you know. It was just more familiar to me.
Continuing on: ...
Thank you all for your hard work at experimenting over here. You made my life easier, and I appreciate it.
How is this doing on consistency at room temp for you Sue?
I had to keep mine in the fridge because it got a bit too liquidy for me.
I use the same silk cloth as you do, even for cannabutter. Works great and you can wash them easily.
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Magnus8
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How is this doing on consistency at room temp for you Sue?
I had to keep mine in the fridge because it got a bit too liquidy for me.
I use the same silk cloth as you do, even for cannabutter. Works great and you can wash them easily.
Hi ladies, both Cannafan and SweetSue and everyone else of course...
So where does one pick up silkscreen cloth? Fabric land?
I got mine off Ebay a couple years ago. Not sure if Fabric Land would have it, I don't have one of those here. You could call them and ask? I think Amazon has some choices too.
I'm not sure I should be calling it cloth though. 
Magnus try a store that makes the shirts for sports or business. If they do silkscreen printing they may be able to help.
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Thanks, New B!
That's a great idea. But it might just be easier for me to get it of Amazon.ca Unfortunately, I live in the deep, dark wilds of farmland Alberta, Canada. The closest town is only about a 20 minute drive, but it only has 1,400 people in it! The other close town is Vegreville and they have more (not many more, but they do have a WalMart to boast about, mind you... not a very good one in my humble opinion. Not that any WalMart is good for much... but suppressing their employees and selling garbage. But I digress, don't I?). But even Vegreville has no kind of shop like you suggest. The closest city with any kind of shop like you suggest is Edmonton and though we travel there frequently, at least once per week for my pain shots and epidurals in my back and spine, we don't get much else done there. After my shots, all I want to do is go back the 2 hours drive to my little trailer on the prairie. Everyone tells Ginette and I to move to Edmonton, but we would never be able to afford the kind of square footage we have here in our single wide trailer and that affords us a room dedicated to growing my marijuana. I say "MY" marijuana because Ginette does not partake of the finer points in life. Actually, she has told me recently that if I can produce a topical that would help her arthritis that she would use it, which is going a long way for Ginette. And also if I can find a strain that would help her motivation and energy (which shouldn't be hard... that's why I'm currently growing Pineapple Express, for her), then she'd take it in oil form if it were in capsules and didn't look or taste like oil and if she didn't have to smoke it. Smoking it, of course, would be too much like smoking "weed" for her, which she's dead set against, except for me. After witnessing the slow degredation of my back over the past 10 years, and after witnessing the extreme worsening of my pain over the past 6 months, she was actually the one who suggested that I try the cannabis in the first place and she was the one who suggested that I grow it myself, too!
Jeez, gotta hand it to the girl. She's an amazing woman to be able to get past her own hard line approach to drugs and alcohol to suggest that I use cannabis for my illnesses.
But like I said, I digress.
I do hope everyone is doing well this evening. I promise that I'm going to get working on my short little notes about different oils that can be used in your formulations. They won't be much, but they'll offer some insight into different oils to use in your concoctions to make them just a little more special than just using one oil to carry the cannabis to the muscles/joints/tendons that you are trying to treat. They'll help treat the skin itself, nourishing it and giving it some of what it needs to stay elastic, supple and healthy.