Magnus8's Canna Cream, Body Butter & Canna Lotion Study Hall

[SweetSue]

Thanks Canna!! That makes me feel a little better that someone else thinks it is the right stuff too!!

It is so much easier to work with then the Beeswax!!!

And that answered my question.

I've been considering buying some for atmosphere. Now they can have double duty.

 

[Dave Groomer]

Hey Sue!! PM Sent.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Thanks Canna!! That makes me feel a little better that someone else thinks it is the right stuff too!!

It is so much easier to work with then the Beeswax!!!

Unfortunately, I just found on their site that this product is being discontinued once the current stock runs out. Check it out:

Ecosoya CB 135 Soy Wax - CandleScience

 

[Dave Groomer]

Unfortunately, I just found on their site that this product is being discontinued once the current stock runs out. Check it out:

Ecosoya CB 135 Soy Wax - CandleScience

Damn. This is the first box I have gotten. It is in shavings and so easy to work with. You can melt it in the microwave.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Damn. This is the first box I have gotten. It is in shavings and so easy to work with. You can melt it in the microwave.

Well, you can always try the beeswax pellets, or "Pastilles". I really like those, they melt much nicer and are a WHOLE lot less work than doing shavings off a beeswax block that is hard as brick. LOL



Edit: I'll try melting some in the nuker in a bit and see how it works. I'll let ya know.

 

[Dave Groomer]

Well, you can always try the beeswax pellets, or "Pastilles". I really like those, they melt much nicer and are a WHOLE lot less work than doing shavings off a beeswax block that is hard as brick. LOL



Edit: I'll try melting some in the nuker in a bit and see how it works. I'll let ya know.

Be careful nuking beeswax. I have read that it can catch fire due to the low moisture. Soy is safe for the microwave, not sure with the beeswax. I have not tried, just read about it.

 

[DrZiggy]

Damn. This is the first box I have gotten. It is in shavings and so easy to work with. You can melt it in the microwave.

I've used this company many times..and just checked..they have it
EcoSoya CB-135 Soy Candle Wax (Kosher Certified) | Best Prices Candle Wax

BTW this site is a very good site for small spray bottles, bulk glycerin, oils, etc.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Be careful nuking beeswax. I have read that it can catch fire due to the low moisture. Soy is safe for the microwave, not sure with the beeswax. I have not tried, just read about it.

I'll opt out of doing it then. LOL It's just easiest for me to keep some melted in the mini crocks. Thanks!

 

[Skullman420]

Subbing up. Wanted to do this myself with the big leaves and stems

Sent from my SM-G935F using 420 Magazine Mobile App

 

[Magnus8]

WOW! Sorry I missed all the fun last night, but I was terribly ill. I had forgotten to change my Fentanyl patch 2 days ago, so I was both in extreme pain and feeling like I was dying from the withdrawals. My gawd, was I sick. I felt like I was in a deep, dark depression, crying all over the place, my mind all concerned with terrifying ideas and concerns, things like what it will be like the day my beloved dog, Dobby, dies and such like that. It was terrible. I spent the whole day like that, walking up and down the hall trying to walk the pain in my back and legs out, trying to walk off the depression and the feelings that were developing. Not fun, let me tell you. It was only about 9:30 p.m. that I realized I was a day late on changing my patch, so I changed it immediately. Within about an hour the pain was beginning to subside. Within about 2 hours the tears began to subside. Within about 3 hours I had stopped crying completely and life was looking just a little bit brighter. No longer was I obsessing on Dobby dying!

When I think about yesterday, I can't help dreading the day I have to go off the patch. Of course, the doctor isn't going to take it away completely, all at once. He's going to titrate me off of it (is "titrate" the right word? I mean he's going to take me off incrementally, in stages.). I'm not going to have to go from such a high dosage as I"m currently on to nothing at all. It won't be like yesterday at all. But still I dread it. I fear it. I cannot help fearing it after a day like yesterday. I'm sure that there's going to be some repurcussions of going off of it, however minor compared to yesterdays withdrawals. I'm just not looking forward to it. I don't' think anyone would welcome it. Even though I welcome being off of it and using cannabis instead as a pain reliever. When it was finally over last night, I was exhausted and worn out completely, both from the pain I had been experiencing for the last day and a half and the depressive feelings I had been experiencing too.

So that was my day yesterday. Hope yours was better!

 

[Magnus8]

Be careful nuking beeswax. I have read that it can catch fire due to the low moisture. Soy is safe for the microwave, not sure with the beeswax. I have not tried, just read about it.

I've been microwaving beeswax for over 6 years now without any incidents. Just make sure you watch it. Heat it using a good solid microwave safe pot. Melt your beeswax until MOST, but not all, of it is melted. This will help ensure that you do not overheat it at all. The rest will melt as you stir it after removing it from the microwave oven. And it goes without saying -- WATCH IT CAREFULLY.

If you follow these simple guidelines, you'll have no incidents with your beeswax melting procedure.

I never worried about it catching fire. I've never heard of that happening. I always worried that it would bubble over the rim of the pot and make a mess that would be terribly difficult to clean, it being beeswax and all.

Cannafan, SuperGroomer, you shouldn't have any problem if you are careful. And you should be careful with any of the ingredients and products you are using while making creams and lotions.

Again, just wanted to repeat so that there isn't a culture of fear surrounding any of these ingredients... I have been working with beeswax for over 6 years now, and never experienced any incidents with it either boiling over or catching fire or anything untoward of the sort.

Happy Saturday, everyone. Hope everyone is fine!

 

[HashGirl]

Amazon.ca carries it, too although it does seem pricey at $77 Canadian (CDN) for a 2 pound bag.

I've used this company many times..and just checked..they have it
EcoSoya CB-135 Soy Candle Wax (Kosher Certified) | Best Prices Candle Wax

BTW this site is a very good site for small spray bottles, bulk glycerin, oils, etc.

 

[SweetSue]

Magnus....

When you get to the withdrawal point with the opioid be certain to do that with cannabis. The cannabis will potentiate the opioids, making it possible to reduce the dose of Fentanyl right from the beginning. The cannabis can be safely used to any extent you find necessary to get through symptoms. Hizzy is just finishing up his own withdrawal from opioids, documenting that adventure in the CCO Lounge. It might be a little rough now and then, but you'll get through it.

By then you'll be on capsules that reduce, if not eliminate the anxiety. That'll make the transition even better. You'll be fine. We won't let it be any other way.

 

[HashGirl]

Sorry you had such a rough day yesterday, Magnus. I believe I read somewhere on 420 that SweetSue suggested weaning yourself off opioids (which I think Fentanyl is?) with the help of the cannabis. Can you wait until your crop is ready before you start weaning yourself off?

I hear such scary things in the news about Fentanyl. I sincerely hope you do get off of it at some point.

WOW! Sorry I missed all the fun last night, but I was terribly ill. I had forgotten to change my Fentanyl patch 2 days ago, so I was both in extreme pain and feeling like I was dying from the withdrawals. My gawd, was I sick. I felt like I was in a deep, dark depression, crying all over the place, my mind all concerned with terrifying ideas and concerns, things like what it will be like the day my beloved dog, Dobby, dies and such like that. It was terrible. I spent the whole day like that, walking up and down the hall trying to walk the pain in my back and legs out, trying to walk off the depression and the feelings that were developing. Not fun, let me tell you. It was only about 9:30 p.m. that I realized I was a day late on changing my patch, so I changed it immediately. Within about an hour the pain was beginning to subside. Within about 2 hours the tears began to subside. Within about 3 hours I had stopped crying completely and life was looking just a little bit brighter. No longer was I obsessing on Dobby dying!

When I think about yesterday, I can't help dreading the day I have to go off the patch. Of course, the doctor isn't going to take it away completely, all at once. He's going to titrate me off of it (is "titrate" the right word? I mean he's going to take me off incrementally, in stages.). I'm not going to have to go from such a high dosage as I"m currently on to nothing at all. It won't be like yesterday at all. But still I dread it. I fear it. I cannot help fearing it after a day like yesterday. I'm sure that there's going to be some repurcussions of going off of it, however minor compared to yesterdays withdrawals. I'm just not looking forward to it. I don't' think anyone would welcome it. Even though I welcome being off of it and using cannabis instead as a pain reliever. When it was finally over last night, I was exhausted and worn out completely, both from the pain I had been experiencing for the last day and a half and the depressive feelings I had been experiencing too.

So that was my day yesterday. Hope yours was better!

 

[SweetSue]

Hello HashGirl. I see we're cross-posting.

Good to run into you this afternoon. Have a wonderful continuation to the day.

 

[HashGirl]

Love it when I'm right! Thanks Sue for posting your reply just as I was posting mine.

Magnus....

When you get to the withdrawal point with the opioid be certain to do that with cannabis. The cannabis will potentiate the opioids, making it possible to reduce the dose of Fentanyl right from the beginning. The cannabis can be safely used to any extent you find necessary to get through symptoms. Hizzy is just finishing up his own withdrawal from opioids, documenting that adventure in the CCO Lounge. It might be a little rough now and then, but you'll get through it.

By then you'll be on capsules that reduce, if not eliminate the anxiety. That'll make the transition even better. You'll be fine. We won't let it be any other way.

 

[Magnus8]

Amazon.ca carries it, too although it does seem pricey at $77 Canadian (CDN) for a 2 pound bag.

Hey HashGirl,

Just sent you a private message. Don't know how often you check them...

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Yes, HizzyB is doing a great job on his weaning off. You should follow his progress, Magnus. It will give you strength. That guy has great courage going on after so many many years of the nasty drugs.
The Oilers' Lounge link is in my siggy if you want to pop over there.

Thanks for the info on nuking the beeswax, that's rest assuring. Of course, careful and watching closely is mandatory.

 

[Radogast]

Sorry you had such a rough day yesterday, Magnus. I believe I read somewhere on 420 that SweetSue suggested weaning yourself off opioids (which I think Fentanyl is?) with the help of the cannabis. Can you wait until your crop is ready before you start weaning yourself off?

I hear such scary things in the news about Fentanyl. I sincerely hope you do get off of it at some point.

Thanks to You and SweetSue for being such loving helpers.
Yesterday for Magnus would have been a perfect time to be at home and smoking or vaping some homegrown cannabis bud or oil. As my wife said when using both opiods and cannabis after a multiple fracture; "It stops most of the pain. It stops you from caring about the rest of the pain."

 

[Magnus8]

Magnus....

When you get to the withdrawal point with the opioid be certain to do that with cannabis. The cannabis will potentiate the opioids, making it possible to reduce the dose of Fentanyl right from the beginning. The cannabis can be safely used to any extent you find necessary to get through symptoms. Hizzy is just finishing up his own withdrawal from opioids, documenting that adventure in the CCO Lounge. It might be a little rough now and then, but you'll get through it.

By then you'll be on capsules that reduce, if not eliminate the anxiety. That'll make the transition even better. You'll be fine. We won't let it be any other way.

Dear SweetSue AND HashGirl,

Your messages brings tears to my eyes. And no, it's not because I'm still feeling the effects of yesterday. You are both so kind to me, so generous with your love...

I've got a doctor who really knows his stuff. At the pain clinic, he is the one who titrates all the clients off of their opiods and puts them on cannabis, so I hope/think he's really used to this stuff. He already told me he's not going to take me off the Fentanyl until he is sure the cannabis is working to control the pain. Since the Fentanyl doesn't seem to work anymore to control at least all of the pain (I am having more and more breakout pain incidents as the weeks wear on), there's a lot of pain right now for him to work with! Whatever happens, i'm sure he won't let me experience the pain of withdrawals without using the cannabis to help control both the pain and the experience of the withdrawals. Also, I'm pretty sure he'll take me off the Fentanyl slowly. That is the impression that both Ginette and I got from him, though I don't remember him actually voicing it in that way. But that's the feeling we both got from him.

I'm not sure if I ever explained to anyone here what happened with my appointment with him. Because of my bipolar disorder, he's reluctant to just put me on the cannabis. Apparently, the Canadian Government has a warning out to doctors saying that anyone with bipolar disorder may in fact be at risk for increased manic activity as a result of medical cannabis use. Because of this, he wanted to get my psych to sign off on using cannabis first before prescribing it for me. I told him that my psych has already told me that he'd never allow one of his patients to use cannabis! I told this to the doctor, who then said that he'd like me to see their in-house psych to see if she would sign off on my using cannabis.

Now, I used cannabis for a period of one + years about 4 years ago, with no adverse manic activity. So I really believe I have nothing to worry about. If anything, it helped me sleep better, and poor sleep habits is one of those things that will make a bipolar person have manic episodes like no other. So I really feel like I've got no issues to worry about.

But anyway, I have to jump through the hoops... And on Monday I have an appointment with the psych to see if she will sign off on my cannabis use. I've no idea what she is like or where she sits on the issue, but I hope that, given that she works in this particular clinic where they prescribe it regularly that she'll be down with signing off on me for it.

And if she says no, then it's a no-go at this pain clinic.

But all is not lost... No, all is not lost.

I've made an alternate appointment with a doctor who writes prescriptions for cannabis almost for a living! He was referred to me by the woman who owns my grow-store. She said that he signs off prescriptions all the time, and that's almost all he does because he knows how hard it is to get prescriptions in my home province. So my appointment with him is on 17 Feb 17.

And if THAT doesn't work... As Ginette says... Fuck 'em, Magnus. We'll do it anyway. We're already growing our own, we'll continue to do it and soon enough it'll be legal throughout the whole country to use it recreationally (Canada DOES rock sometimes, you know) so who is going to stop us from growing it for your own medical use?

And I agree. Fuck 'em. If they aren't going to listen to me when I tell them that I don't get manic on the stuff, then too fucking bad. I'll grow my own for my own personal medical use. (Can you see how angry I am? I never swear. Well, fucking almost fucking never...)

So that's the story. I may, or may not, be given the cannabis to control the pain. And if not, then I'm damned well going to use it anyway to control the pain. And the anxiety. And the depression.

I should probably be writing all of this in a private message, right. Oh well. Too damned bad.

And with that, I'll sign off. Much love to both of you. Hope you're both doing well this beautiful Saturday afternoon.