LMAO Cloning For Dummies

sweet Sue I do not care if you use my thread or whether you make your own this is all about teaching people as for techniques on growing clones in all ways I am attempting to grow clones in just about any way anybody can give me I am trying to prove that these things are almost impossible to kill I have two cuttings non rooted shoved inside Gatorade bottles one in each been there for 4 days no air No Light No oxygen one has very little water and one has several oz of water I am testing this project because I want to know if I can actually ship clones right you have a 100% success rate my next one is to try things like what my daughters are learning in school and that would be to take two two liter bottles one over the top of the other filled with dirt in one and put a clone in it moisturize it and see if it can raise itself I have read a lot of your post you are very wise I have even grown one in a peat pellet in the refrigerator
 
Imhigh85 said:
sweet Sue I do not care if you use my thread or whether you make your own this is all about teaching people as for techniques on growing clones in all ways I am attempting to grow clones in just about any way anybody can give me I am trying to prove that these things are almost impossible to kill I have two cuttings non rooted shoved inside Gatorade bottles one in each been there for 4 days no air No Light No oxygen one has very little water and one has several oz of water I am testing this project because I want to know if I can actually ship clones right you have a 100% success rate my next one is to try things like what my daughters are learning in school and that would be to take two two liter bottles one over the top of the other filled with dirt in one and put a clone in it moisturize it and see if it can raise itself I have read a lot of your post you are very wise I have even grown one in a peat pellet in the refrigerator
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Amazing! :laughtwo: I likewise feel it's nearly impossible to kill one with TOAST's method. I thought I came close a couple times, but they always bounce back and turn into luscious, flowering beauties.

I'll leave a note on my grow journal. DeVille just did one using beneficial bacteria (?) that rooted in 7 days! :thedoubletake: That one should definitely be in here.
 
Pishah!!!!
Cloning is boring. Needs some eye candy.

The Birkencloner....
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Really just a sealed black bag with wet perlite in it stuffed into an old worn out Birkenstock Arizona, but ya gots ta do sumthin to keep the personal entertainment going.
 
Imhigh85 said:
sweet Sue I do not care if you use my thread or whether you make your own this is all about teaching people as for techniques on growing clones in all ways I am attempting to grow clones in just about any way anybody can give me I am trying to prove that these things are almost impossible to kill I have two cuttings non rooted shoved inside Gatorade bottles one in each been there for 4 days no air No Light No oxygen one has very little water and one has several oz of water I am testing this project because I want to know if I can actually ship clones right you have a 100% success rate my next one is to try things like what my daughters are learning in school and that would be to take two two liter bottles one over the top of the other filled with dirt in one and put a clone in it moisturize it and see if it can raise itself I have read a lot of your post you are very wise I have even grown one in a peat pellet in the refrigerator
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Preaching to the choir, high. Not clones, seedlings - shoved them in there last week, DEAD OF WINTER, they slept outside & broke ground 3 days ago. No tlc, nothing. (Made a few small drainage holes in the bottom, seedling soil (cheap no name brand) & perlite. Sorry for shouting, but IT'S CALLED WEED FOR A REASON!
 
After reading all 35 pages I am tempted to just cut 4 or 5 cuttings from my one and only photoperiod plant, let em fall to the ground, and see if they survive with nothing else but laying on the ground. Seriously! I made myself a clone dome. Carefully cut three white widow clone cuttings. Did the 45 degree angle cut right below a node. I gently shaved the outside skin off the bottom inch or so. Dipped them into a rooting powder and gently pushed them into peat pellets. 15 days later not a single root in sight. I might be off to Pet Smart for an air stone and little aquarium pump today. Build a small hydro cloner. I ordered some of the Clonex solution. Interested to see all the things that stuff can do.
 
It takes a while to get the hang of cloning no once you do your success rate we'll just move from there everybody has different techniques when it comes to cloning not all of them work for everybody one thing I have noticed from state to state and Country to Country is it every time I move I end up having to adjust my method of cloning to suit the habitat that I am living in
 
beez0404 said:
After reading all 35 pages I am tempted to just cut 4 or 5 cuttings from my one and only photoperiod plant, let em fall to the ground, and see if they survive with nothing else but laying on the ground. Seriously! I made myself a clone dome. Carefully cut three white widow clone cuttings. Did the 45 degree angle cut right below a node. I gently shaved the outside skin off the bottom inch or so. Dipped them into a rooting powder and gently pushed them into peat pellets. 15 days later not a single root in sight. I might be off to Pet Smart for an air stone and little aquarium pump today. Build a small hydro cloner. I ordered some of the Clonex solution. Interested to see all the things that stuff can do.
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Make sure to get a small aquarium heater they like warm water.
 
MerryAnna said:
Warm, not hot! I once accidentally boiled my poor babies with an expensive store bought aquarium heater. (Ya gots to read the fine print on those dang instructions). .
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I try to understand as much as I can about anything I add to my projects before I use them. Then everything is closly monitored for function till I'm happy with it.
 
I research & experiment as much as i can, but sometimes i'm just too dang full of myself. Overconfidence, you know? (I've done this 50 tines before, i KNOW what i'm doing! = Egg + Face.)
 
Tead said:
Pishah!!!!
Cloning is boring. Needs some eye candy.

The Birkencloner....
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Really just a sealed black bag with wet perlite in it stuffed into an old worn out Birkenstock Arizona, but ya gots ta do sumthin to keep the personal entertainment going.
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I bet there's just LOADS of fun little micro-organisms & bacteria wriggling around in there....
 
beez0404 said:
After reading all 35 pages I am tempted to just cut 4 or 5 cuttings from my one and only photoperiod plant, let em fall to the ground, and see if they survive with nothing else but laying on the ground. Seriously! I made myself a clone dome. Carefully cut three white widow clone cuttings. Did the 45 degree angle cut right below a node. I gently shaved the outside skin off the bottom inch or so. Dipped them into a rooting powder and gently pushed them into peat pellets. 15 days later not a single root in sight. I might be off to Pet Smart for an air stone and little aquarium pump today. Build a small hydro cloner. I ordered some of the Clonex solution. Interested to see all the things that stuff can do.
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At one time I was was making clones the very same way as you are and I had about the same hit or miss results as you.

Then I got the cheapest spray cloner I could find on ebay. It was $30 and came with a sample of z7 water treatment and that changed everything. Now I have roots within 7 days 99.9% of the time. I use old clippers to take my cuttings and I use no cloning gel or power and no shaving,cutting of leaves or domes. All of those things are just not needed and can slow things down.

All you really need is to spay,mist or fog the stems with some z7 in the water. It keeps everything clean and helps to open the pours of the stems. Not only will you get roots in 7 days. They will grow very very fast.

If you are going to spend a little money you should really try to make a spay cloner. All you really need is the cheapest water pump and a bucket or look for a cheap one on ebay.
 
Question for all you amazing people; I have clones that have rooted but stem under these roots hasn't. No white bumps either. Should I clip these off?
 
MerryAnna said:
I bet there's just LOADS of fun little micro-organisms & bacteria wriggling around in there....
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No doubt the Birks are "well seasoned"... but the plastic bag forms a barrier.
When one is running a pure perlite cloner in a really hot/damp garden, one avoids promoting growth of any sort other than the green girlies. It's really a hydro cloning technique used for creating clones that go into a pure perlite hydro grow. It all really fits well together in my little neck 'o the swamp baby.
 
DukeO said:
At one time I was was making clones the very same way as you are and I had about the same hit or miss results as you.

Then I got the cheapest spray cloner I could find on ebay. It was $30 and came with a sample of z7 water treatment and that changed everything. Now I have roots within 7 days 99.9% of the time. I use old clippers to take my cuttings and I use no cloning gel or power and no shaving,cutting of leaves or domes. All of those things are just not needed and can slow things down.

All you really need is to spay,mist or fog the stems with some z7 in the water. It keeps everything clean and helps to open the pours of the stems. Not only will you get roots in 7 days. They will grow very very fast.

If you are going to spend a little money you should really try to make a spay cloner. All you really need is the cheapest water pump and a bucket or look for a cheap one on ebay.
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That's funny you mention that. I've already ordered the Clonex Clone solution that is added to the water. You had said I needed a water pump, but wouldn't I need an air pump to pump air through an air stone on the bottom of the tank?

What do you grow your clones if after they've rooted? I would be growing in soil and wonder if there is any problem going from hydro to soil for the clones?
 
There's a black clonex bucket spray cloner on eBay for like $50 was going to order that til I found this thread and doing what imhigh85 is doing....I researched going from hydro cloning to soil but didn't really find an answer
 
907skunk said:
There's a black clonex bucket spray cloner on eBay for like $50 was going to order that til I found this thread and doing what imhigh85 is doing....I researched going from hydro cloning to soil but didn't really find an answer
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I've never had any problems (water to soil). It's like germinating seedlings on a moist paper towel between 2 plates: once the roots come out of the husk, you transplant baby gently into a drier medium so that it doesn't drown. Think of the clone as a really big baby seed.
 
Imhigh85, im dropping a few pictures of my girl. She is the poster child for resilience 1 year old, lil popcorn buds. I cut a few off. A couple of days ago i said you look terrible, if you're going to die, do it outside. Waste of electricity lol. Now she has new growth and her color is back. Way Cool
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beez0404 said:
What do you grow your clones if after they've rooted? I would be growing in soil and wonder if there is any problem going from hydro to soil for the clones?
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Ya plants 'em.
Various nuances to that dance, but yea.... just plant 'em.
Here's one I did the other day.... in your case pretend all the white stuff is dirt.

Start.... rooted clones removed from cloner (black bag in this case)
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Plant gingerly placed into pot and filled in around.... (different plant... sorry)
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Notice how I held the small plant in place at the level I wanted, then filled in with my 'white soil' around it.

No real difference betwixt hydro or soil clones... except you don't want to put a girl cloned in dirt into your hydro setup.... hydro generally needs to stay as sterile as possible and adding dirt to that mix would be bad.
 
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