LED Trinity Grow - Round 1

Last little thing was a question for anybody who might know. I was wondering about my PH being so stable (not that i'm complaining, just curious) The PH is only going up .1 or less in three days, the PPM's are going up by about 200-300 so I know the plant is taking up nutrients just not sure why the PH is so steady. I thought as nutrients are taken in by the plant, the PH would go up accordingly.
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:rofl: I got a chuckle out of that. I pictured my self say... "Why do I grow such good weed?"

But hey! Seriously. It is a good question. Why do you grow such good weed :rofl: I couldn't help myself.

Its always better to know why in my opinion. Knowing the why is when you really understand what is going on and you can stop guessing :)

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I believe this has occurred due to a concentration of your nutrient solution. Water evaporation or plants using more water and leaving the salts (nutes) behind.



b.real said:
Why do the ppms and ph go up because of the plants uptake? Shouldnt the ppms go down?
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Ask away my friend:thumb:

Scarfinger68 said:
I am curious to see what Wacky has going on. I read his Blog and he definitely has got some interesting info in there.
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Scarfinger68 said:
:rofl: I got a chuckle out of that. I pictured my self say... "Why do I grow such good weed?"

But hey! Seriously. It is a good question. Why do you grow such good weed :rofl: I couldn't help myself.

Its always better to know why in my opinion. Knowing the why is when you really understand what is going on and you can stop guessing :)

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Thanks Scar lol, I'm just curious why its so stable now, I have my guesses but though DP or KJC, you or others might have a better idea. The plants are doing well there is no question, but I still thought the PH would fluctuate a little.

On a side note...I think I'm gonna try the defol method on my second Kuch plant in the blue mystic closet. Its coming up on 21 days sinc flip to 12/12 and its perfect timimng, I can also compare it to the Kush in this closet for yield etc..

@TheBlaze, thanks for the kind words, and reps, much appreciated buddy. ;)
 
yeh Im with ya there whacky,is that a typo there stealth? ppm should drop slowly no?
edit: I should add in by no means am I arguing with the results.
edit ii: although..... I have noticed when switching to my flowering nutes im running a much lower ec to keep that slight drop. Im thinking something to do with the reduction in N uptake which is chewed up relatively quickly compared to the other nutes used in flowering?????
 
Lol , I've got a couple of threads saved in there from TheCaptins grow, I'm really intrigued in how he utilized a top drip with rockwool and air pots. Really blows me away that he can use that much wool and water as frequently and have such a lush harvest without issue. It's really top notch. I'm leaning towards his methods heavily and reading and re-reading what he posted trying to use his method and incorporate it with mine into a hybrid system. I mean just look at the modularity of his different setups , this guy really put some thought into what he is doing. I like it.
Same goes to stalthgrow and this thread as well as most others here with something to share , very interesting , learned a great deal and packed away a great deal of info and ideas from this thread. I think we even have the same LED , I got mine direct from H.K. from the manufacturer , Anyways... I'm just here to learn and have a laugh when I can. Great site with awesome peeps.

PEACE & POSITIVE ENERGY TO ALL 420 MEMBERS
Scarfinger68 said:
I am curious to see what Wacky has going on. I read his Blog and he definitely has got some interesting info in there.
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Crazycarl said:
I think and this is just in my head no facts but sounds right but like us they take stuff in and let it out which would effect the PPM. I think the PH staying stable shows everything is stable IMO
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I would think the ppms go down because the plant uses them to covert into tissue, and the ph should change because the environment of the water is changing due to the "loss" of certain minerals (thats building the plant tissue)
 
b.real said:
I would think the ppms go down because the plant uses them to covert into tissue, and the ph should change because the environment of the water is changing due to the "loss" of certain minerals (thats building the plant tissue)
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I don't know I am noob and don't mess with hydro anyways but yea your idea sounds good too. Seems with Stealth the fact it is not changing a bunch might just mean it is really stable grow IMO. We need a couple gurus to stop in and line us noobs out
 
b.real said:
I would think the ppms go down because the plant uses them to covert into tissue, and the ph should change because the environment of the water is changing due to the "loss" of certain minerals (thats building the plant tissue)
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RainStacks said:
I think the ppms and ph are so stable because a mad scientist is sneaking into the room and dialing everthing in perfectly. ;)
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Crazycarl said:
I don't know I am noob and don't mess with hydro anyways but yea your idea sounds good too. Seems with Stealth the fact it is not changing a bunch might just mean it is really stable grow IMO. We need a couple gurus to stop in and line us noobs out
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Thanks for all the input guys. :)
Believe me I'm not complaining, just trying to understand how the plant is taking up nutrients to grow but the water PH environment is stable. You would think that as the PPM's change so would the PH of the water, but I have heard (I can't remember where) that the plants themselves can change the PH in the water to a degree, to suit their needs.
Like you guys said, I have the nutes dialed in and the plants are just doing very well in the closet environment.
Or its the Mad Scientist...:geek:

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ok, i'll shut up now...:)
Next update Saturday afternoon. I'm going to medicate then off to bed.
G'nite all.

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Greetings,

Haven't posted in a while but I have been following a few journals and thought I'd chime in and also give some +reps.

Stealth, your journal is a wealth of knowledge for many reasons. Grow closet and multiple plants. I was saying to myself the past few days of catching up on your journal that your PPM's were high (it's me that's high haha). You have more plants growing to what I'm used to in a small space. I feel like a relieved idiot right now that I answered my own question.

I wanted to make a suggestion for your next grow on the numbers count. Keep track of your water levels at each change out. You will see what the plants are ingesting per water and PPM's of the nutes. If that makes sense. Mad, mad, mad reps on your pH count and water temperature. If these were unstable you would be in dire straits with the power drama you've experienced. Again, a learning experience on how to salvage a grow with the problems you've encountered.

Lastly, I am wondering how long you should flush the plants before harvesting and if you will be using a flushing agent. Your water levels are perfect, knock on wood, so you don't have to worry about that. The reason I'm bringing this up is that hydro can be a harsh smoke if the flush wasn't done correctly. Higher PPM's means more chemicals in the plant.

Thank you to everyone that's contributed to this journal. I'm about to construct my own home grow and my brain is a fucking sponge right now.

Wacky, thanks for the info on TheCaptins grow journal. This will be the 5th journal I will be studying.

Stealth, in my 'purple haze' right now I forget the strain that's on the right. My suggestion is to grow that on the upper right of the closet and keep the left side exclusive to the main chamber. But you already know that you pH balanced slickster ;)

Research the AK strain and see the heights and reaction to supercropping and fimming to maybe do a combined grow journal again. Once again, this journal is a wealth of knowledge.

In the words of Mike Walden from Super Dave Osbourne show..."that's sensational!"
 
ppms are high cause the plants are huge lol. it was a slow gradual process of upping the ec. most plants like to start low, you gotta do it right for it to work. water is a softer buffer than soil for whatever physical reason, but in soil you have just that.. a buffer. you don't have to measure ppms you can "wing it"! lol

i like to flush my soil plants at least a week before harvest. flush em good! distilled or gtfo

ive never ran hydro, can you run pure water the last week? or do you gotta use that light feed thing they sell you?

if you wanna be the mad scientist dial down the ppms enough slowly again probably starting at week 8 of bloom to get the fan leaves to yellow out fully. im trying to get all my leaves to yellow out before pulling in soil but i fear itll take longer than hydro

my thc bomb was so starving at the end of its life and it was the most smooth smoke ever
 
Thank you so much dresdenrow79, that's very flattering, and much appreciated.:)
I am learning as I grow, along with everyone else here. Its the love of the plant, in so many ways, that brings us together here on this site. I'm glad you find my journal so informative, I'm certainly trying to run a pretty tight ship/closet, as far as keeping track of all my major stats and including them in each update.
Its to help others and myself that I post this info. This is only my first and second round grow in this closet and I intend on growing many many more. :) I am planing 2 royal AK automatic from seed for my next grow in the smaller closet and gonna grow out 1 or 2 Master Kush clones in the big closet. Every round in the closet, I'm going to try and improve some aspect of the grow.

As far a flushing I know I have to flush at least a week with RO water and NO nutes, probably gonna go for 10 days just to be sure, I want the smoke to be nice and smooth. This is another reason I've recently started feeding by PPM number instead of the directions on the bottle, trying to keep my plants super healthy but keep the nutrients as low as possible.
I'm still on the fence about a flushing agent, gonna have to look into it more before I decide one way or the other. Gonna hang to dry in the closet for 7-10 days or until ready, then gonna cure in my CVaults (Air tight, Humidity controlled containers) for 2-4 weeks or indefinitely. Won't be able to smoke any of the meds I'm growing till mid-november probably, but it should be worth the wait.

Thanks again for the kind words, after a long day at work, and stressful night with the kids and wife, you made my night. ;)
+reps to you for that. Cheers.
 
No need! A flushing agent is watered down nutrients just like all of advanced nutrients products! RO baby! I use brita filtered water to flush my girls.
 
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