KJ's T5/CFL 1st Time Grow

[mcloadie]

2 weeks? ok, that makes it more of a problem to predict. I'm probably close to 2 weeks now! I was just about to add some more nutes with my new 'bloom' helper.

So what's the downside of adding nutes too late. Is it just flavor or is there danger involved or more/less yield?

My understanding is that if you miss time the clear water, you just have a longer cure/dry out time, but no damage.

I've done it every way imaginable karl, this is a difficult but highly sought after answer you seek, one that's worked out in a growers mind. Your decisions will determine your own very special results. We could grow weed exactly the same way...side by side....and I promise it will be at least slightly different......you will learn how to get the results you seek!

 

[KarlJay]

Someone came over and looked at the plants. He said he got some before that weren't flushed and it was crap. I don't know if the crap was from the lack of flushing or if it was just crap product. He didn't remember the strain, but it wasn't very strong.

I guess the difference is the taste more than anything else, but I really am just guessing.

We didn't see any amber, but only did some spot checking.

 

[mcloadie]

Someone came over and looked at the plants. He said he got some before that weren't flushed and it was crap. I don't know if the crap was from the lack of flushing or if it was just crap product. He didn't remember the strain, but it wasn't very strong.

I guess the difference is the taste more than anything else, but I really am just guessing.

We didn't see any amber, but only did some spot checking.

Flush a week karl, organics....a week....I flush for two.....I have flushed for a month if the plants were too blue.......extra N in the plants is what will give less than optimum produce.........right, potency probly wouldn't be affected. A coupla weeks just water, or water and molasses will give you time to get the trichs where you want them.

 

[KarlJay]

Flush a week karl, organics....a week....I flush for two.....I have flushed for a month if the plants were too blue.......extra N in the plants is what will give less than optimum produce.........right, potency probly wouldn't be affected. A coupla weeks just water, or water and molasses will give you time to get the trichs where you want them.

Ok, so how do I know when I'm 1 week out? Probably 40% amber?

Also, 'flush' means simply tons of water with no nutes so that the soil has pretty much nothing in it.

 

[mcloadie]

Ok, so how do I know when I'm 1 week out? Probably 40% amber?

Also, 'flush' means simply tons of water with no nutes so that the soil has pretty much nothing in it.

Not tons of water, just how you would normally water....no amendments.....you're gonna have to figure how you want your weed to affect you, it may smell a little different, smoke a little different.....you have to make that decision....I have been holding back from telling you how I decide because I don't want you to be influenced by my preferences.....I see one amber trich and they're cut....that's just me and how my med scene is working for myself and those I provide medicine to....today....LOL. I will end up letting some go amber soon.......LOL.

 

[denots]

Im no expert and someone correct me if im wrong but cloudy trichs= head/happy high amber trichs = glued to couch/body high...

I plan on doing one plant mstly cloudy and one plant 30% amber, so I can have my daytime Meds and night time/pain relief meds.

I took a sample of each too dry today ones only 30% cloudy but had yet to taste; other one was 90% cloudy and sack was low so took a bowls worth a piece off too "test the waters"

 

[KarlJay]

Update: today was might have been the last of the feedings. I'm not 100% sure, I'll have to take a closer look. Without a close check, it looks like some are getting cloudy.

One question is coming up, can I do a partial harvest of one plant. The lower sites are clearly behind the upper sites. What happens if I cut the top half and leave the rest to keep going?

Here's some pics:

The second grow is up to about 16" and they all are looking good.

The PM seems to be all gone now, that last treatment seem to have done the job.

I don't know if one of the treatments was better than the other, but the last one seemed to do the trick.

 

[KingJohnC]

you can harvest part of the plant and leave the rest to mature more, i would wait till the majority are cloudy and 5% amber at least to harvest.

 

[KarlJay]

Thanks John! Glad to know.

I just got a 2ton (24K BTU) window a/c unit for my home. While researching how to extend the temp control bulb (the wire at the front of the unit), I found some interesting info on dehumidifiers from Wiki:

A specific type of air conditioner that is used only for dehumidifying is called a dehumidifier. A dehumidifier is different from a regular air conditioner in that both the evaporator and condenser coils are placed in the same air path, and the entire unit is placed in the environment that is intended to be conditioned (in this case dehumidified), rather than requiring the condenser coil to be outdoors. Having the condenser coil in the same air path as the evaporator coil produces warm, dehumidified air. The evaporator (cold) coil is placed first in the air path, dehumidifying the air exactly as a regular air conditioner does. The air next passes over the condenser coil, re-warming the now dehumidified air. Having the condenser coil in the main air path rather than in a separate, outdoor air path (as with a regular air conditioner) results in two consequences: the output air is warm rather than cold, and the unit is able to be placed anywhere in the environment to be conditioned, without a need to have the condenser outdoors.

So it look like someone could take a regular A/C unit and convert it to be a dehumidifier. The reason for doing this would be that it's pretty easy to find one on CL for cheap and you don't see too many dehumidifiers for cheap.

Although it doesn't say specific amounts, it does say that A/C will reduce the humidity when the water collected is extracted out of the house.

 

[jlt1202]

you can get a new dehumidifier for 200-300, honestly that would be CLEANER, then rigging a a/c to work, it COULD work but its going to take up alot more space then a reg one becacuse of the changes you have to make to it to work,

 

[mountaingoat]

Sweet pics + reps!

 

[KarlJay]

Sweet pics + reps!

Thanks Goat! I might start a partial harvest in about a week or so. I was thinking about cutting a few branches before the amber really kicks in.

I guess you can just cut parts of the plant off and it doesn't hurt the rest.

I don't know how I'm going to keep track of the curing because some look to be weeks behind the others.

I might have to get some color coded tags or label or something. I actually don't have a place setup for curing yet, need to get on that next. I don't want to use the cloning closet unless it's cleaned well because I think that's where the PM got started.

 

[mountaingoat]

Yea I cut mine down and noticed there were many lower nugs that needed more maturing which basically added another 50% to that grow in dry weight

 

[KarlJay]

Yea I cut mine down and noticed there were many lower nugs that needed more maturing which basically added another 50% to that grow in dry weight

DAMMMMM! 50% ... You know what I'm going to do!

Excellent info, glad I got that info!

 

[ontariogrow]

So how many days into 12/12 are you now? I am at something like day 40 and jonesing for these things to grow more! Is there a growth spurt approaching for me? I also need to find some easy local store that has a jewelers loupe or something I can see my trichs better with

Was really hoping to harvest on the weekend of 4/20

 

[mcloadie]

So how many days into 12/12 are you now? I am at something like day 40 and jonesing for these things to grow more! Is there a growth spurt approaching for me? I also need to find some easy local store that has a jewelers loupe or something I can see my trichs better with

Was really hoping to harvest on the weekend of 4/20

If we see pitures we can give you rough estimates of your progress, AND a journal would be preferable...thanks!

 

[ontariogrow]

Hey guys - sorry for the lack of info - posted a few times in this and other threads but I'll give the standard info :

lemon skunk from seed - vegged for 75 days from seed ( i know - crazy long!)

they have been in 12/12 for 46 days.

400 watt HPS in flower room - 5 plants in there.

Just trying to figure out roughly when on the calendar I am going to begin chopping.

I like the idea of doing it in stages - taking down the heavier buds from the top and then letting the lower ones develop a bit before taking them down afterward. Hoping thats a good practice because it sounds ideal for my plants based on how they are developing.

here is a shot of the room from march 23 and a bud from 2 days ago. if anyone wants to see the room i'll snap another one tonight as is.

thanks for any advice! Sorry to hijack KJ!

 

[denots]

So how many days into 12/12 are you now? I am at something like day 40 and jonesing for these things to grow more! Is there a growth spurt approaching for me? I also need to find some easy local store that has a jewelers loupe or something I can see my trichs better with

Was really hoping to harvest on the weekend of 4/20

Try radioshack for a handheld microscope 12$ 60-100x with ability to focus

 

[KarlJay]

NP on the hijack, we're all here to learn.

The time to harvest is when the plant says to and what you want. Clear/cloudy vs cloudy/amber. Personal choice.

Most seem to want the most amber they can get.

The challenge seem to be when to stop to nutes. I'm stopping all nutes as of last feeding.

 

[KarlJay]

Update: 2nd watering with no nutes. Only added GH KoolBloom on the advice of a local grower. Got a new microscope: Active Eye 100X with focus. It was < $20 and much more powerful that the camera on macro zoomed. The downside is that I can't take pics of it and it's kinda hard to get into the plant and focus, but I'll get used to it.

I'm seeing some brown/amber hairs, not a lot, just a few. The best I can tell so far is the trichs are mostly cloudy. I might harvest a few sites very soon, then let the rest go to mostly amber.

The second grow is well under way and looking healthy. I haven't sprayed them for PM in about 1.5 weeks. They all look good and many are getting very bushy.