Keffka's Recycling, KOS Blue Thai, Herbies Seeds Apple Betty, Runtz Punch

[Keffka]

Nice catch. How many days old are they now?

That one was 33 days. Anecdotally I’ve noticed that feminized seeds will show stigmas by day 30 under the lighting scheme, males will show at this time as well, the female regular seeds are still a bit difficult to gauge. This is likely going to be due to me keeping my light at 25% for 16 hours for the first 2 weeks after 12/12. I just recently went up to 50% and started 18 hours at Day 30. I think if running 12/12 for the first two weeks, I need to be a bit more aggressive with my lighting

I see it. Males often grow more vigorously early and are leggier and taller, at least from what I've seen.

Indeed.. I’ve always read this to mean that males would be thinner with greater node spacing, however that’s not fully the case. The node spacing is a good indicator if you have a female to look at, otherwise it looks average to me. The thinner appearance isn’t necessarily visible until they hit flower. The one thing that does stand out though is the males will grow exceptionally, regardless of what the females are doing.

For instance when I water the females they often droop slightly or are very sensitive to changes in the environment. The males are full praying all the time regardless and they shrug off environmental changes like they don’t exist. Their fan leaves also appear to be more robust and healthier during veg. They all also seem to have a very similar structure when they’re young regardless of their strain.

I think I’m gonna spend some time during my next few grows taking notes on the plant measurements and growth and see if I can see any similarities

Also that makes sense since they want to be up high and shower their pollen down across the females.

I agree with this. The males likely grow so aggressively and well because they want to get above the females, and they have less to focus on in terms of resources. They only need to pump out pollen whereas the females need to stock up and prepare for flower. This would neatly explain the visible differences in the genders.

 

[StoneOtter]

I need to be a bit more aggressive with my lighting

When I did that they sexed in 10 days when I went 18/6 @ 600 par

 

[Keffka]

Running my light during the night for off peak hours is a game changer for my electric bill. I didn’t even notice its impact this month. Too bad I don’t like winter growing, may have to adjust a bit since my rates are typically cheaper than summer

 

[Azimuth]

In addition to the bill, running them off cycle also keeps them warmer in winter and cooler in summer, so a good deal all around!

 

[SmokingWings]

Running my light during the night for off peak hours is a game changer for my electric bill.

If you are old enough there might be an option for senior citizen rates. If I remember right my wife had to call up to get on that program.

 

[Keffka]

The crew

I love how deeply colored and shiny the leaves are.. that’s from their diet, I haven’t foliar sprayed or gotten the leaves wet at all. Mineralizing the soil is insanely beneficial.

Here’s a shot of all the life in the soil I’m using, it’s sort of hard to see so I circled it.. look for the orange/brown/tan specks

There’s life absolutely everywhere in the soil. I got tired of circling all of it in that picture but when you look at the Live Photos or just the soil itself, there’s life everywhere and the soil looks like it’s moving. Springtails, soil mites, I’ve even seen a few nematodes here and there which is impressive, they’re usually harder to see and are deep in the soil. You don’t need to buy special packages of beneficial nematodes, just pickup some good quality EWC.

I transplanted the Runtz Punch into a 10 gallon.. I’ll snap a pic at lights on.. I pushed it too far in the one gallon container. I had built that container to last 4 weeks, however I kept the plant in it for 33 days. On Day 29 I could see the bottom leaves showing the beginning signs of deficiency and by day 32 it was beginning to run up the stem. This tells me I’ve dialed in my mix almost perfectly to the day.

 

[Gee64]

The crew

I love how deeply colored and shiny the leaves are.. that’s from their diet, I haven’t foliar sprayed or gotten the leaves wet at all. Mineralizing the soil is insanely beneficial.

Here’s a shot of all the life in the soil I’m using, it’s sort of hard to see so I circled it.. look for the orange/brown/tan specks

There’s life absolutely everywhere in the soil. I got tired of circling all of it in that picture but when you look at the Live Photos or just the soil itself, there’s life everywhere and the soil looks like it’s moving. Springtails, soil mites, I’ve even seen a few nematodes here and there which is impressive, they’re usually harder to see and are deep in the soil. You don’t need to buy special packages of beneficial nematodes, just pickup some good quality EWC.

I transplanted the Runtz Punch into a 10 gallon.. I’ll snap a pic at lights on.. I pushed it too far in the one gallon container. I had built that container to last 4 weeks, however I kept the plant in it for 33 days. On Day 29 I could see the bottom leaves showing the beginning signs of deficiency and by day 32 it was beginning to run up the stem. This tells me I’ve dialed in my mix almost perfectly to the day.

They are beautiful. The beauty of healthy living soil with a full balanced diet is that you don't control the plant. You set the stage for it to show us it's genetic potential. Well done Keff you have picked up organics exceptionally fast. I look forwards to a lifetime of learning things from you. Be a Proud Papa Brother, not to be confused with a Proud Papa-Brother

 

[Keffka]

“Dad, where are my balls?!”

I always feel bad after having my dogs sterilized even though I know it’s the right thing to do. My wife wanted it done 6 months ago. However in the course of my reading I found out sterilizing your dog before they’re a certain age can lead to cancer and health problems down the road depending on their size/breed. Thankfully the place we went didn’t even have an appointment available until today, the day before his first birthday. Happy birthday buddy!

 

[Keffka]

They are beautiful. The beauty of healthy living soil with a full balanced diet is tht you don't control the plnt. You set the stage for it to show us it's genetic potential. Well done Keff you have picked up organics exceptionally fast. I look forwards to a lifetime of learning things from you.

I said it originally, it doesn’t feel like I’m learning anything, it feels like I’m unlocking knowledge I already had, it was just buried in propaganda and brainwashing.

It’s a bit shocking to see truly healthy plants.. they look so much better than the average plants we are shown and see. They display characteristics that turn most assumptions on their heads. People just accept transplant shock as something that will occur. I haven’t seen any shock at all during this grow. Their resilience is off the charts. They’re able to adapt to every change I make with ease. Their structure and growth is excellent. I can’t wait to see what it does in flower.

Be a Proud Papa Brother, not to be confused with a Proud Papa-Brother

I get you.. I am definitely proud of what I’m seeing.. The plants look great all the time without being force fed a hundred different products, just some good old fashioned organic amendments.

 

[Keffka]

Here’s a night shot from a few days ago that really illustrates just how shiny and deeply colored the plants are. Revs reds are popping through. My buddy didn’t believe my plants were even real lol.. He’s been growing synthetically for years and was really trying to push me into the chemicals. I showed him some images and he said “bullshit those are just plastic plants”

I started cracking up and brought out the male plant (I don’t let anyone in my grow room, not even my wife. Unless you’re willing to shower and change your clothes you’re not coming in) to show him they were most definitely real. I could see the wheels spinning in his head thinking about growing organically. I’m so close to breaking him

Now, if I can figure out a way to standardize what I am doing I’ll be able to help others easily grow maximum genetic potential plants, while also learning about Mother Nature, our one true tangible deity.

 

[Sparkey224]

Here’s a night shot from a few days ago that really illustrates just how shiny and deeply colored the plants are. My buddy didn’t believe my plants were even real lol.. He’s been growing synthetically for years and was really trying to push me into the chemicals. I showed him some images and he said “bullshit those are just plastic plants”

I started cracking up and brought out the male plant (I don’t let anyone in my grow room, not even my wife. Unless you’re willing to shower and change your clothes you’re not coming in) to show him they were most definitely real. I could see the wheels spinning in his head thinking about growing organically. I’m so close to breaking him

Now, if I can figure out a way to standardize what I am doing I’ll be able to help others easily grow maximum genetic potential plants, while also learning about Mother Nature, our one true tangible deity.

Really think you want to be synthetic, between the catch trays to popping your solo cups for airation.lol
I ran organics for years and loved it but when you go synthetic,you won't go back..
That's 100% factual homie.

 

[Gee64]

Here’s a night shot from a few days ago that really illustrates just how shiny and deeply colored the plants are. Revs reds are popping through. My buddy didn’t believe my plants were even real lol.. He’s been growing synthetically for years and was really trying to push me into the chemicals. I showed him some images and he said “bullshit those are just plastic plants”

I started cracking up and brought out the male plant (I don’t let anyone in my grow room, not even my wife. Unless you’re willing to shower and change your clothes you’re not coming in) to show him they were most definitely real. I could see the wheels spinning in his head thinking about growing organically. I’m so close to breaking him

Now, if I can figure out a way to standardize what I am doing I’ll be able to help others easily grow maximum genetic potential plants, while also learning about Mother Nature, our one true tangible deity.

This is what you get when you cross organics with organically bred seeds. Thats where you start if your looking to standardize it but.... spoiler alert.... you can't, because every batch of new seeds gets another step ahead and your standards go up. Natures way.... its called evolution, not revolution. It's where the fun is. It IS the rabbit hole.

 

[StoneOtter]

Love the sheen! Let's me know something's going well!

 

[Sparkey224]

This is what you get when you cross organics with organically bred seeds. Thats where you start if your looking to standardize it but.... spoiler alert.... you can't, because every batch of new seeds gets another step ahead and your standards go up. Natures way.... its called evolution, not revolution. It's where the fun is. It IS the rabbit hole.

Organic breed seeds..lol....Jesus I've heard it all..

 

[Gee64]

Organic breed seeds..lol....Jesus I've heard it all..

GG are you fishin'

 

[Sparkey224]

Love you guys and your passion for sure..lol..no disrespect we all have our own style.

 

[Wastei]

GG are you fishin'

Maybe he wants to know what "organically bred" seeds are? I'm also a little curious!

I think he want to know how one style of growing would be superior to another in any aspect of breeding ? I don't think one method is superior to the other and both has pros and cons. You have to do a lot of more reading and educating yourself about the different amendments, their content and source growing organics. Their innate pros and cons and what to avoid. How to properly cook a soil and how long it takes for every ingredient to become bioavailable and what catalysts to add to speed up the process.

Organic amendments especially any rock salt is high in both lead and cadmium in much higher concentration than you'll ever find with synthetics where everything is listed and tested for contaminants.

 

[Thirvnrob]

Really think you want to be synthetic, between the catch trays to popping your solo cups for airation.lol
I ran organics for years and loved it but when you go synthetic,you won't go back..
That's 100% factual homie.

I grew synthetically for the first couple years & turned to growing organically. I don’t see myself ever going back to synthetics…

 

[Sparkey224]

And I'm the complete opposite . Whatever floats your boat homie but organics are not superior of what folks think. That's real talk.

It's all about the genetics, not what we use to get to the finish line. That's about 2 or 3% and genetics are about 96%.
That's pretty basic, no need for explanation

I grew synthetically for the first couple years & turned to growing organically. I don’t see myself ever going back to synthetics…

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[Thirvnrob]

And I'm the complete opposite . Whatever floats your boat homie but organics are not superior of what folks think. That's real talk.

It's all about the genetics, not what we use to get to the finish line. That's about 2 or 3% and genetics are about 96%.
That's pretty basic, no need for explanation

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Agreed, we are opposites! I prefer floating my boat in organic waters