Keffka's Recycling, KOS Blue Thai, Herbies Seeds Apple Betty, Runtz Punch

[Keffka]

Beauty Tall girls

I think they’re (Revs seeds) already calling for calcium/magnesium.. check out this mottling

 

[Gee64]

I think they’re (Revs seeds) already calling for calcium/magnesium.. check out this mottling

I was reading back but couldn't find it, I know its there but please refresh me. Tell me about your starting soil.

 

[Keffka]

I was reading back but couldn't find it, I know its there but please refresh me. Tell me about your starting soil.

“Coast of Maine Organic Products Sprout Island Organic Seed Starter is a rich mixture of blended sphagnum peat moss, perlite, kelp meal, worm castings and well-aged compost. It contains mycorrhizae and is ready to use in cell packs or flats and provides natural moisture retention and aeration. It has a mild organic fertilizer charge that creates a biologically diverse environment ideal for germinating seeds and root cuttings.”

I mixed that with coco, perlite, and EWC.. Today is day 7, which is slightly earlier than I’d like to up my ppms

 

[Gee64]

It looks like this mix is basically already cut. Adding a balanced mix of coco,perlite, and ewc shouldn't really throw it off but your past grows with their regular soil did prove to be calmag deficient. If you add a small amount of calmag it shouldn't harm them as long as its not too strong. It will certainly ensure good tilth.

I would mix it weak but fully saturate the soil and let it drain.

Sometimes with seedlings when you do a full saturation the abundant water makes the soil too cold so a heat mat for 2 or 3 days will help too. Just on warm not too hot. 74-76F is good.

I can't tell from the photos but you are the guy right there with them so trust your gut but be gentle.

They don't have a lot of roots so stressors are magnified.

After correcting the soil I would give them at least 2 waterings in a row with fish ferts when they need water. That way you have corrected the soil and then gave them a really healthy snack.

You could combine the fish water with some myco too, either in the water or sprinkle it on and then rinse it in.

Rev does have some genetics mixed in that have variagation too, but a touch of calmag won't hurt so if you think it needs it don't hesitate.

The healthier the seedling the better the yield. It starts here and carries through. A lesser seedling will create a lesser rhizosphere, creating lesser roots, creating a lesser life.

You can improve a plants life later on, but you can never catch up to a plant that had a better childhood.

You only have 5 months so every day counts.

 

[Gee64]

If calmag fixes the issue then get them out of those cups and into real soil as soon as you safely can.

 

[Gee64]

Here is my theory on seed starting. Plant them in full strength veg soil and they live or they don't.

The ones that take will be excellent plants. It seperates the herd.

A weaker pheno will never produce what a stronger plant will so find the strong ones.

It sounds expensive but I would rather waste a few bucks tossing bad seeds than waste 5 months growing bad seeds.

But I am a bit different than most. If I am 6 weeks deep in flowering and a plant pisses me off the worms get it. Most would coddle it thru. So I might not be the best guy to ask lol.

 

[Keffka]

If calmag fixes the issue then get them out of those cups and into real soil as soon as you safely can.

They’re coming out soon regardless.. 14 days is my limit and I’d really prefer sooner. I may have thrown the mix off balance with the extra coco and EWC.. I basically eyeballed ratios, oh well.. the regular growing soil will be ready.. they got a myco bath already and I was gonna fish fert them within the next few days.. I’ll see what they look like tonight

 

[Gee64]

They’re coming out soon regardless.. 14 days is my limit and I’d really prefer sooner. I may have thrown the mix off balance with the extra coco and EWC.. I basically eyeballed ratios, oh well.. the regular growing soil will be ready.. they got a myco bath already and I was gonna fish fert them within the next few days.. I’ll see what they look like tonight

Used soil is excellent for starting in. Its got the perfect biome and fungii and it only needs to feed them for 2 weeks.

I don't use ewc on seedlings unless they are left in solos too long. I spend that 12-16 days building fungii and get it established, then introduce them to the bigger pot, establish for about a week, then give a microbe tea to start upping the microbes now that fungii has established itself and about 5-7 days after that I start topdressing ewc.

By then the plant is usually really taking off and you just try to keep up.

 

[Keffka]

Used soil is excellent for starting in. Its got the perfect biome and fungii and it only needs to feed them for 2 weeks.

I don't use ewc on seedlings unless they are left in solos too long. I spend that 12-16 days building fungii and get it established, then introduce them to the bigger pot, establish for about a week, then give a microbe tea to start upping the microbes now that fungii has established itself and about 5-7 days after that I start topdressing ewc.

By then the plant is usually really taking off and you just try to keep up.

I agree with the used soil.. I didn’t want to use any of the soil from the past 2 grows since so many things went sideways and I was pumping large amounts of BSM into it on top of mineral deficiencies and FG.. The soil from this grow will go forward though so this should be the last time I deal with little stuff like this.

 

[Keffka]

Day 9.. Myco has taken hold in the containers.. I’m iffy on the Runtz Punch myco situation, it may just be slightly overwatered, or perhaps hungry already. She’s obviously less pleased than everyone else with her top leaves drooping.. I’ll let her go an extra day before watering and see if that helps.

In these next pics you can see the Runtz Punch diff

Next watering will be a fish fert, Dolomite lime myco mix, 25/25 for 50 ppms with myco added after measuring. Do you see any issues with that @Gee64 or should I use the fish fert and DL separately?

I forgot to pull out EWC to dry to sprinkle on so I think I’ll just break up a small amount top dress the cups as well. Everyone looks like they’re building up an appetite which is good.. they should be able to dig in soon. About 5 more days and they’ll start hitting containers.. We’ll see.. I can be fluid with the larger containers and not so stuck to a timeline

I am giving the last 2 seeds one more week and then I’ll call it

 

[Gee64]

Day 9.. Myco has taken hold in the containers.. I’m iffy on the Runtz Punch myco situation, it may just be slightly overwatered, or perhaps hungry already. She’s obviously less pleased than everyone else with her top leaves drooping.. I’ll let her go an extra day before watering and see if that helps.

In these next pics you can see the Runtz Punch diff

Next watering will be a fish fert, Dolomite lime myco mix, 25/25 for 50 ppms with myco added after measuring. Do you see any issues with that @Gee64 or should I use the fish fert and DL separately?

I forgot to pull out EWC to dry to sprinkle on so I think I’ll just break up a small amount top dress the cups as well. Everyone looks like they’re building up an appetite which is good.. they should be able to dig in soon. About 5 more days and they’ll start hitting containers.. We’ll see.. I can be fluid with the larger containers and not so stuck to a timeline

I am giving the last 2 seeds one more week and then I’ll call it

I havent used dolomite water much. I would be curious to watch. I was using it mostly on mature plants.

 

[Sparkey224]

Day 9.. Myco has taken hold in the containers.. I’m iffy on the Runtz Punch myco situation, it may just be slightly overwatered, or perhaps hungry already. She’s obviously less pleased than everyone else with her top leaves drooping.. I’ll let her go an extra day before watering and see if that helps.

In these next pics you can see the Runtz Punch diff

Next watering will be a fish fert, Dolomite lime myco mix, 25/25 for 50 ppms with myco added after measuring. Do you see any issues with that @Gee64 or should I use the fish fert and DL separately?

I forgot to pull out EWC to dry to sprinkle on so I think I’ll just break up a small amount top dress the cups as well. Everyone looks like they’re building up an appetite which is good.. they should be able to dig in soon. About 5 more days and they’ll start hitting containers.. We’ll see.. I can be fluid with the larger containers and not so stuck to a timeline

I am giving the last 2 seeds one more week and then I’ll call it

Looking great K!
You have a fan for the seedlings? The supports are ok but think the fan will strengthen the main enough to stand on their own.

Looks like the solo airports are doing great

 

[Keffka]

Looking great K!
You have a fan for the seedlings? The supports are ok but think the fan will strengthen the main enough to stand on their own.

Looks like the solo airports are doing great

The fan is why I needed the supports lol.. I walked in and had one of them sittin sideways with its leaves turned toward the light so it had been that way for a few hours at least. It was a combination of the fan and a mistake.

It was my fault.. I originally put the plants 2 feet from the light but didn’t measure the light intensity. When they came up they looked like they were running hard so I checked Photone and realized they were running at 350-400 PPFD in that spot which is a lot more than I want for seedlings.. I dropped the plants about a foot lower without thinking about the 12/12 schedule affecting the DLI, so 350 was probably ok for 12/12. Anyways.. They seemed to take it okay but this one stretched a little:

It would’ve been fine by itself but because I run the AeroWave E6 aimed directly at the plants, it was pushing the stretcher over a bit. You can see the fan in this image:

The other 3 plants were fine but I added smaller supports on them just to be safe since I’m still learning the strains and cups. I have 2 fans running currently.. the one pictured aimed directly at the plants and oscillating, plus a smaller clip on fan blowing at the light.. it creates a small wind system in the room.


Regarding the holes on the solo cups.. absolute game changer.. I no longer despise solo cups and am able to water the plants every 3-4 days now even at their small size. The extra air is supercharging the root growth, and the extra water lets me keep the soil alive a bit better.

Regarding the supports.. I created them so that they’re not actually touching the plant stems.. they’re positioned so as the plant moves in the wind it supports it.. I don’t want the supports doing any of the work and I want the plants to be able to move back and forth to strengthen themselves enough to not need the supports.

 

[Keffka]

Journal note.. I am struggling with lights off temperatures.. it’s extremely difficult to get the temp down to 68F during the day especially with these 80-90 degree days.. It’s not much of a cost savings running the light at night if I’m having to double my AC use during the day.

I don’t think this will be much of an issue during Veg but it’ll likely cause me problems in flower. Based on my math though, the temperatures should be much cooler when we go to flower at the end of September.

 

[Keffka]

I havent used dolomite water much. I would be curious to watch. I was using it mostly on mature plants.

I bought a 45 gallon plastic wheeled container today.. I’m second guessing my multiple bins for the soil cooking (I ALWAYS start second guessing the week before transplant lol) so I want to get it all into one container and let it cook for a week or so.. this is gonna push my seedlings back a week or so in the solo cups so they’re gonna need a little love to make it. ‘We’re gonna find out’ (this should probably be my motto ) how well it works on seedlings.. perhaps allow for more flexibility if it does work

Also.. apparently the BTi never inoculated fully because FG are back in the cooking bins.. I’m gonna BTi water again and throw half a mosquito dunk into the soil itself.. FG and I for some reason are just gonna keep doing rounds until I can get my hands on some stronger BTi

 

[Keffka]

Day 10.. everyone looks great.. myco bit on the Runtz punch and one of the two Lost Boys cups has sprouted!

 

[Keffka]

Life is weird. There are times where I sit and think about the choices I’ve made. Choices that have lead me to places like smoking outside an old Korean ladies tent at 2 AM in some rural southern Korea field while I wait for her to cook food. Or sitting on a flight pad as the sun comes up over the mountains of Afghanistan, waiting for the perfect opportunity to jump in a chinook and take off.

It’s hard to grasp that it was actually me that did those things and lived that life. It all seems like some dream of a different life. However, when I was in those moments, they were very real. I can still feel them. I can remember the sights and sounds, even exact thoughts at the time, but it still feels like some disconnected part of my past. It’s weird. Life’s weird. Consciousness is even weirder.

I need these aliens to show themselves so they can start teaching us universal stuff instead of this short sighted human garbage.

 

[StoneOtter]

Nice day 10 sight Keffka!

I need these aliens to show themselves so they can start teaching us universal stuff instead of this short sighted human garbage.

Be the alien brother!

 

[Keffka]

Nice day 10 sight Keffka!

Thanks Stone! To be fair though, seedling is the easiest stage for me.. I don’t have to do much and they haven’t been around long enough for me to have done much damage

Be the alien brother!

Some times I think I am

I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first body my consciousness has inhabited

 

[Keffka]

Lol peekaboo!

I knew I could smell it I just didn’t know where it was