Junior Grower Grow 00 Auto White Widow

[Smokiemcpot19]

I've never grown an auto, but generally speaking, some grow mediums like coco and peat need to be treated to replace certain elements that those mediums come loaded up with when sold. So for instance, coco has a high amount of K and before being used, most of the K needs to be flushed out and replaced with Ca and Mg for the grow media to be safe to use.

However, those are just general use rules, not seedling or auto specific rules. The generally accepted practice for seedlings is to not feed them till it is known that they have a root system that can uptake the nutrients, and just give them water only. As a seedling, I would even confidently guess that PH is not critical either as the seedling isn't taking in nutrients, just the water. Still though, it's never a bad idea to correct the PH, so just as long as the water is in a reasonable PH ...

Totally makes sense now thanks brother! I'm in coco so that's why I've heard to do that.

 

[Fogarty420]

The little weird one still growing, i think it only lag behind 2 days compared to the others.

 

[Skybound]

In the little weird one's pot, how deep is the dry dirt? Dry cycling the dirt with such a small plant can go bad. I suggest not letting the dry dirt in that pot exceed 15-20mm in depth till that little one establishes her roots. You'll know when that is by her leaf growth.

 

[Fogarty420]

In the little weird one's pot, how deep is the dry dirt? Dry cycling the dirt with such a small plant can go bad. I suggest not letting the dry dirt in that pot exceed 15-20mm in depth till that little one establishes her roots. You'll know when that is by her leaf growth.

The pot depth is 90mm, it's about 47-50 RH, i water them every 2 days.

60g when the soil is bone dry, 180g right after watering, and i water it at 100g. Am i doing right?

 

[Skybound]

The pot depth is 90mm, it's about 47-50 RH, i water them every 2 days.

60g when the soil is bone dry, 180g right after watering, and i water it at 100g. Am i doing right?

That's the standard practice for healthy plants, but when you encounter an unhealthy plant, you need to sort of slow things down some to let it catch up to the others. That said, of the 90mm of soil, the tap root is only in the top most 10-20mm, so it is this zone you have to focus on for now, until you're confident the plant is growing at pace with the others. If the top 20mm of soil is bone dry, but the lower 70mm is still wet, you can be lead to believe the overall weight is in range, yet with the top zone being too dry already, added days awaiting the next watering might prove to be more stressful, if not fatal. I only used 20mm as an example as I don't know how much of the top is dried. Take an ink pen or chop stick and open a hole in the top of the soil and peak down and confirm how dry the top most layer is. For all I know, it might only be the surface that is dry, but from the look of your pic, it looks like the top is very dry.

You still are going to be the one that decides, I just wanted you to reconsider how you're looking at that one troubled plant in hopes that we can mitigate a possible problem. If you feel there is adequate moisture in the top 1/4 of soil, disregard my comments. If the top 1/4 of the soil is dry though, do the wet/dry cycle and only consider the uppermost part of the soil for now. Once you're sure she's doing good growing like the others, go back to weigh the whole pot.

 

[irie lion]

The little weird one still growing, i think it only lag behind 2 days compared to the others.

Looking good bro!

 

[Fogarty420]

Day 10, they are doing good, the weird one grow slow but it survive, and my friend just gave me pair of clone 2 days ago. He said he apply aloe on both of them, and ask me to put them into soil, water them as usual. How can i know they actually grow root? And how often i should water them? Should i keep the soil wet?

 

[Skybound]

I agree, the weird one looks normal now, so water as usual, allowing the soil to dry some before watering again. You can estimate the size of the roots based upon the canopy of the plant. I'm not saying they're identical in size, but the healthier and more robust the roots become in the media (soil), the more foliage the plant can produce and sustain. Judging by the pictures, I'd estimate the clones roots to be much more developed than the seedlings.

Just my opinion, but I think you should stop using fabric pots for anything bu the finish pot size. Because the small pots are only temporary, you don't want the root tips to grow into the fabric which you'll later have to rip off to separate the pot from the soil. At least with plastic, the soil and roots will slide out intact.

That said, I suggest putting those clones into bigger plastic pots of soil as soon as you can.

 

[Fogarty420]

I agree, the weird one looks normal now, so water as usual, allowing the soil to dry some before watering again. You can estimate the size of the roots based upon the canopy of the plant. I'm not saying they're identical in size, but the healthier and more robust the roots become in the media (soil), the more foliage the plant can produce and sustain. Judging by the pictures, I'd estimate the clones roots to be much more developed than the seedlings.

Just my opinion, but I think you should stop using fabric pots for anything bu the finish pot size. Because the small pots are only temporary, you don't want the root tips to grow into the fabric which you'll later have to rip off to separate the pot from the soil. At least with plastic, the soil and roots will slide out intact.

That said, I suggest putting those clones into bigger plastic pots of soil as soon as you can.

According to my friend, he cut those clone out 3 days ago, and gave me the next day. By the time I receive them, there's no root. Can clone grow that much root in just 3 days?

I've watch some video about cloning, they cut away old fan leaves, and look nothing like what my friend do. Do i need to cut off some leaves or let it be?

 

[Skybound]

According to my friend, he cut those clone out 3 days ago, and gave me the next day. By the time I receive them, there's no root. Can clone grow that much root in just 3 days?

I've watch some video about cloning, they cut away old fan leaves, and look nothing like what my friend do. Do i need to cut off some leaves or let it be?

No, they can't. I misread the story. Because they haven't rooted yet, you have to keep them in those pots for at least a week, but likely longer, but a few days after you see the leaves growing and the plant getting taller, you'll have to transplant.

Actually, knowing they didn't root yet, you should find a clear plastic covering, either to cover both plants and pots, or clear plastic cups to retain high humidity in the immediate region of the plant. I keep my clones in a translucent plastic tote. Also, mild heat applied to the rooting media will expedite rooting. Here we use heating pads that get warm to the touch, then put a bath towel on it, then the plastic tray on the towel. Just something to warm the soil to a bit warmer than room air. Just like incubating chicken eggs more or less. Also, clones use a lot less light than rooted plants. My translucent tote diffuses my veg light enough for good cloning.

Here is a pic of my veg closet. Notice the translucent tote flipped upside down that I use as a "clone dome". I also have plants on top of that to diffuse the light more. For cloning, you want diffused light, high RH around the plant and warm media (soil). If you look close, you can see my bath towel below and the heat mat below that.

 

[Fogarty420]

No, they can't. I misread the story. Because they haven't rooted yet, you have to keep them in those pots for at least a week, but likely longer, but a few days after you see the leaves growing and the plant getting taller, you'll have to transplant.

Actually, knowing they didn't root yet, you should find a clear plastic covering, either to cover both plants and pots, or clear plastic cups to retain high humidity in the immediate region of the plant. I keep my clones in a translucent plastic tote. Also, mild heat applied to the rooting media will expedite rooting. Here we use heating pads that get warm to the touch, then put a bath towel on it, then the plastic tray on the towel. Just something to warm the soil to a bit warmer than room air. Just like incubating chicken eggs more or less. Also, clones use a lot less light than rooted plants. My translucent tote diffuses my veg light enough for good cloning.

Here is a pic of my veg closet. Notice the translucent tote flipped upside down that I use as a "clone dome". I also have plants on top of that to diffuse the light more. For cloning, you want diffused light, high RH around the plant and warm media (soil). If you look close, you can see my bath towel below and the heat mat below that.

I assume the dome got 1 - 2 holes for air right?

 

[Skybound]

I assume the dome got 1 - 2 holes for air right?

No, though I could poke a few in to exchange air, there's more than enough space to hold enough CO2 and O2 to feed my clones for a day. Each day I open the tote, feed the plants, spray them and spray the dome to reup the RH. It's also wise to keep a cup of water in there so the evap raises the RH inside.

 

[Fogarty420]

No, though I could poke a few in to exchange air, there's more than enough space to hold enough CO2 and O2 to feed my clones for a day. Each day I open the tote, feed the plants, spray them and spray the dome to reup the RH. It's also wise to keep a cup of water in there so the evap raises the RH inside.

Thanks for the guide, i think i could handle that.

 

[irie lion]

Hey GWJ, nice set of clones your mate hooked you up with. I love growing from clones and i'm looking forward to see how they do for you Sky is spot on with all the cloning information, high humidity will promote your root growth. If your clones have not wilted in the couple days you have had them then it's a good sign they will successfully root. It can take up to 2 weeks for roots to push on some clones, depending on environment.

 

[Fogarty420]

Hey GWJ, nice set of clones your mate hooked you up with. I love growing from clones and i'm looking forward to see how they do for you Sky is spot on with all the cloning information, high humidity will promote your root growth. If your clones have not wilted in the couple days you have had them then it's a good sign they will successfully root. It can take up to 2 weeks for roots to push on some clones, depending on environment.

Clone is new challenge for me, i look forward on them too.

 

[Fogarty420]

Day 13, i am curious and look back what i did on my first grow (previous grow) on the exact same day 13.

First grow:

Current grow:

I am surprised by this big difference.

Edit: damn i lost count on day. Should be 14th day.

 

[Skybound]

Your skills are more honed and the results are showing it. Great job man!

 

[HugePeckerhead]

I jumped on this because I have some widows going and just wanted to compare. Anyways...I started 3 but 2 I germed a week and a half from the other one. My smallest one now is about 2 weeks old from germ. Mine did the same exact thing as yours did. Sprouted closed like that and the leaves were yellow like yours. I was told the helmet came off but a very fine membrane was intact that didn't allow it to open up like the others. Mine is growing great now but was a bit slower because of that. Just assuming this is the same case as yours too.

 

[irie lion]

That's a really cool comparison, your cultivation skills are improving that's for sure

 

[Fogarty420]

I jumped on this because I have some widows going and just wanted to compare. Anyways...I started 3 but 2 I germed a week and a half from the other one. My smallest one now is about 2 weeks old from germ. Mine did the same exact thing as yours did. Sprouted closed like that and the leaves were yellow like yours. I was told the helmet came off but a very fine membrane was intact that didn't allow it to open up like the others. Mine is growing great now but was a bit slower because of that. Just assuming this is the same case as yours too.

Yes, i have to spray water on the sprout surface, wait until the membrane go soft and remove it manually. Glad to know that i am not the only one.