Jon's Second Grow, First Grow Journal, Soil Grow Autos & Photoperiod

[Jon]

Phototown Update

This one is words only cuz I'm too upset to post pictures. I will tomorrow morning when I take her out. So I have made the most difficult decision of my growing "career," and this one hurts. Bad. I'll be over it in the morning, but right now it hurts.

The one Jelly Rancher that took the brunt of the original overnuteing has been giving me nothing but problems since day one. I've tried moving up the light. I've flushed. I've tried Cal Mag. I tried just plain water for a while. He Ph has always been fine. And I brought her back from the nute burn, the light burn, the buddy breaking a branch, and three days ago she seemed like she was finally back in shape. Nope. In the last three days she has lost half her leaves. I mean DEAD. Curled up and crispy. They were all hiding on the inside and I hadn't gotten in there cuz I was in process of letting the plants "leaf up." All the new growth in the last three days IMMEDIATELY begins to curl down at the ends and within hours is turning a rusty color in the middle and all over the leaf. Old growth, new growth, it's all affected, and within a couple days the leaves die altogether. I've been pulling my hair out but I thought I had it finally fixed.

So after pulling all the dead crap off her and looking at what I'm left with, then looking at the four other plants that are literally as close to perfection as any grower could ask for and are BIG, I decided that tomorrow morning I am pulling the Jelly Rancher and we are going with a four plant scrog instead of five.

OUCH.

But oh well. The upside is that only supremely healthy and barely ever stressed plants that are firing on all cylinders will hit the screen, and I'll fill that screen just as readily and easily with four as I would have with five. Just can't justify leaving her to hopefully recover, especially since I'm 99% sure I finally identified the culprit.

IT'S ME. I FUC--D UP.

So when I transplanted these girls to their five gallon homes, I was short about a gallon of dirt, maybe a gallon and a half. I was out of my Fox Farms soils, which have far outperformed the nutrients. So I topped that Jelly Rancher off with a gallon and a half of Miracle Grow crap soil that was left over from my first grow, and had been sitting in a garage for eight months. Never thought twice about it other than it bothered me momentarily to wreck my perfect OCD setup with one gallon of different soil, lol. Well, I have come to believe that I should not have done that and that the crap MG soil has infected my good soil and plant. That's the only answer left. All the other four, including one of the identical strain, have had IDENTICAL conditions to this plant from Day One. NONE of them disliked the light. NONE of them are dropping leaves. NONE of them are rusty looking, and NONE of them have curling leaves. It is completely confined to the one plant. So it's got to be that soil. And I think it just took a while for the one gallon on top of crap to filter it's garbage into the rest of the soil and obviously then the plant. If I'm right there's no coming back from this. So I'm gonna toss her on the back porch and let her go and not care what happens to her and instead focus on bringing home the four amazing specimens that are at the screen as we speak.

Tomorrow I'll post the carnage. It's ugly. And it happened so fast.

FML. Learning experience the hard way.

 

[Diatomacious]

There's not a whiff of cloudy yet.

At least a couple weeks then I would say, maybe longer hard to say with a plant you are not familiar with.

So I topped that Jelly Rancher off with a gallon and a half of Miracle Grow crap soil that was left over from my first grow

Those real wood chips in there?

 

[ChronicTrees]

By the way, so here is a one photograph bud porn break in the action for anyone who's seeing this. This is a bud that will arrive at my house by next Wednesday. My grower friend (on the East Coast, not my Oregon buddy) grew this and this is his finished product of RAINBOW RUNTZ. I've never seen or smoked it so this is what his looks like. I'm psyched to try it.

Definitely a great looking strain. Rainbow Runtz sounds tasty.

Random picture of a Cinderella Jack just beginning to frost up. Just for the hell of it.

This girl looks extremely beautiful, the hairs look so vibrant, plus trichome coverage Is outstanding. You really did. great job on these girls, I love It. You have some really good genetics for this girl to look like that. Yield wise... what were you expecting? I’m very sure you would get a good QP of each plant. That’s my take on that part. Were you aiming for amber, cloudy, or clear trichs? What feeding method were you using? How often aswell? I’m doing a outdoor grow, (Which I would like for you guys to check out). There Is a few different strains I’m growing such as Deep Purple, Grandaddy Purple, OG x Haze, Cantaloupe Haze, Jesus OG, OG. Sour Diesel x Big Bud, and a few more. I’ll be purchasing some seeds such as Blueberry Cream Cheese, Blueberry Yum Yum, Fruity Pebbles, and syrup.
ChronicTrees 2021 Outdoor Grow: Random Strains
Anyone that wants to come check It out Is free to come along, and watch these girls grow!

I’ve been thinking of a few additives to add In my feeding mixes. Syrup, molasses, and a few other things like crushed up nuts, mashed up fruits, and vegetables , with herbs, and chocolate added In my soil, I call It the Marijuana soul mix with nutrients. About 1 cup of each In a 2-3 gallon pot, mixed up perfectly, and let dry before adding In the pots. All those things work as a great fertilizer. You guys should try It. Great smell to the buds, plus great nutrient wise. Plus I have base nutrients all through the veg cycle.
Really great way to make use of banana peels, orange peels, left over syrup, black strap molasses, and cabbage/broccoli, blueberries, and strawberries, for your girls too... always knew they could be used forsomething!!!

 

[ChronicTrees]

ChronicTrees 2021 Outdoor Grow: Random Strains

 

[Bill284]

Phototown Update

This one is words only cuz I'm too upset to post pictures. I will tomorrow morning when I take her out. So I have made the most difficult decision of my growing "career," and this one hurts. Bad. I'll be over it in the morning, but right now it hurts.

The one Jelly Rancher that took the brunt of the original overnuteing has been giving me nothing but problems since day one. I've tried moving up the light. I've flushed. I've tried Cal Mag. I tried just plain water for a while. He Ph has always been fine. And I brought her back from the nute burn, the light burn, the buddy breaking a branch, and three days ago she seemed like she was finally back in shape. Nope. In the last three days she has lost half her leaves. I mean DEAD. Curled up and crispy. They were all hiding on the inside and I hadn't gotten in there cuz I was in process of letting the plants "leaf up." All the new growth in the last three days IMMEDIATELY begins to curl down at the ends and within hours is turning a rusty color in the middle and all over the leaf. Old growth, new growth, it's all affected, and within a couple days the leaves die altogether. I've been pulling my hair out but I thought I had it finally fixed.

So after pulling all the dead crap off her and looking at what I'm left with, then looking at the four other plants that are literally as close to perfection as any grower could ask for and are BIG, I decided that tomorrow morning I am pulling the Jelly Rancher and we are going with a four plant scrog instead of five.

OUCH.

But oh well. The upside is that only supremely healthy and barely ever stressed plants that are firing on all cylinders will hit the screen, and I'll fill that screen just as readily and easily with four as I would have with five. Just can't justify leaving her to hopefully recover, especially since I'm 99% sure I finally identified the culprit.

IT'S ME. I FUC--D UP.

So when I transplanted these girls to their five gallon homes, I was short about a gallon of dirt, maybe a gallon and a half. I was out of my Fox Farms soils, which have far outperformed the nutrients. So I topped that Jelly Rancher off with a gallon and a half of Miracle Grow crap soil that was left over from my first grow, and had been sitting in a garage for eight months. Never thought twice about it other than it bothered me momentarily to wreck my perfect OCD setup with one gallon of different soil, lol. Well, I have come to believe that I should not have done that and that the crap MG soil has infected my good soil and plant. That's the only answer left. All the other four, including one of the identical strain, have had IDENTICAL conditions to this plant from Day One. NONE of them disliked the light. NONE of them are dropping leaves. NONE of them are rusty looking, and NONE of them have curling leaves. It is completely confined to the one plant. So it's got to be that soil. And I think it just took a while for the one gallon on top of crap to filter it's garbage into the rest of the soil and obviously then the plant. If I'm right there's no coming back from this. So I'm gonna toss her on the back porch and let her go and not care what happens to her and instead focus on bringing home the four amazing specimens that are at the screen as we speak.

Tomorrow I'll post the carnage. It's ugly. And it happened so fast.

FML. Learning experience the hard way.

Omg jon don't be so hard on yourself. You still have a healthy garden. You seem so upset about her. Relax enjoy all those healthy ladies you have your a fantastic grower and should be so proud. One girl with a issue isn't worth you getting upset. Sounds like she might have root issues. But now she is out I would do my best to save her. I literally have a pile of dead girls behind the shed. But I fought to save everyone of them and learned something along the way.
Not every girl is a winner, don't be so hard on yourself.
Happy growing buddy.
Bill

 

[Jon]

Definitely a great looking strain. Rainbow Runtz sounds tasty.

This girl looks extremely beautiful, the hairs look so vibrant, plus trichome coverage Is outstanding. You really did. great job on these girls, I love It. You have some really good genetics for this girl to look like that. Yield wise... what were you expecting? I’m very sure you would get a good QP of each plant. That’s my take on that part. Were you aiming for amber, cloudy, or clear trichs? What feeding method were you using? How often aswell? I’m doing a outdoor grow, (Which I would like for you guys to check out). There Is a few different strains I’m growing such as Deep Purple, Grandaddy Purple, OG x Haze, Cantaloupe Haze, Jesus OG, OG. Sour Diesel x Big Bud, and a few more. I’ll be purchasing some seeds such as Blueberry Cream Cheese, Blueberry Yum Yum, Fruity Pebbles, and syrup.
ChronicTrees 2021 Outdoor Grow: Random Strains
Anyone that wants to come check It out Is free to come along, and watch these girls grow!

I’ve been thinking of a few additives to add In my feeding mixes. Syrup, molasses, and a few other things like crushed up nuts, mashed up fruits, and vegetables , with herbs, and chocolate added In my soil, I call It the Marijuana soul mix with nutrients. About 1 cup of each In a 2-3 gallon pot, mixed up perfectly, and let dry before adding In the pots. All those things work as a great fertilizer. You guys should try It. Great smell to the buds, plus great nutrient wise. Plus I have base nutrients all through the veg cycle.
Really great way to make use of banana peels, orange peels, left over syrup, black strap molasses, and cabbage/broccoli, blueberries, and strawberries, for your girls too... always knew they could be used forsomething!!!

Hey Chronic Trees, I'm Jon, nice to "meet" you and thanks for stopping by! I'll def check your Random Strains post. Thanks for the kind words on the girls in the auto tent. My first try at autos and I'm reasonably happy with the results so far. I would say SUPER happy but I have no reference points, lol.

To answer a few of your questions:

Yield wise I don't know what to expect. I have nine unfamiliar plants and zero experience with autos, but I know how I feel, based on my eyes/minimal growing experience/reasonable amount of researched knowledge, which is this:
* 9 ounces or less = hugely disappointed
* 9-13.5 ounces = 1 to 1 1/2 ounces per plant = ok, acceptable, but not really very good
* 13.5 - 18 ounces - 1 1/2 to 2 ounces per plant = EXPECTED YIELD = Not bad for a first try
* 18 ounces or more = Beyond my expectations and I'm a happy guy
I hope your estimates are closer to reality than my own. Lol.

My genetics were pretty carefully selected after much research. The Cinderella Jacks are Dutch Passion. WAY dependable and well established. No variation in the three plants basically. They are growing EXACTLY as DP said they would, and the bonus there is that these girls are just getting started. DP tells you to be patient and they'll take a long time. The grow journals I saw on it consistently went 110 days or more. I have no reason to expect these to be any different, and they're on Day 55! If they actually go another sixty days from now I can't even imagine what the yield will be from these three. I also chose this strain because DP's version is the current world title holder for highest thc level for autoflowers as proven by testing documentation. OVER 26%!!!!! The buds are VERY dense. And they seem to have a "frost switch." The plant in the middle of the three had her frost switch flipped about five days ago and since then she is almost as white up top as a White Widow or some strain like that. It's amazing. You can see it when the switch gets flipped. The closer one is about to flip that switch, and the other corner one is a couple days away.
The Pineapple Expresses are 420 Fast Buds. There are three seedbanks that have their versions of this strain that I was able to find. I researched all three, including looking at dozens of visual grow journals on the strain by each breeder. The 420 Fast Buds version seemed to perform the best and have the best yield/thc levels. And as promised, these guys generate an IMMENSE amount of legitimate bud sites as you can see in the pic. Granted, I trained the crap out of them to help generate this, but the plant gets most of the credit. I trained extensively, BUT I did NOT do one iota of topping. Just bending and tucking leaves and exposing new growth to direct light constantly. I did this with all the plants. I easily spent an hour or two a day on training these nine. I could easily do a six plant scrog of these Pineapple Express in five gallon pots and fill a screen in my five by five and harvest two pounds I bet. They'd be even wider than you see now if I let them be. I've probably cut their viable bud sites by maybe 15-20% to keep the tent as a whole under control, taking the more flarfy lower edge stuff. These plants would easily take over most of this tent if I let them. They grow crazy fast.
The Gorilla Zkittlez is Barney's Farm, and they obviously need no introduction. I've never seen a bad grow from someone who knows what they're doing using Barney's Farm genetics, and this GZ has been exactly as BF said it would. It even looks almost exactly like the show picture of the finished bud on their site! She has stayed shortest of all the plants as the only indica heavy hybrid in the tent, but her buds are HUGE. The biggest is WAY bigger than my hand at this point, and now that they're about two weeks out (I agree with you on that) they are doing the pack it on at the end thing BIG TIME. They grow by making little foxtails in the morning all around the bud that by the end of the day become integrated into the whole bud and it gets visually fatter every day. I'm going to have basically eight coke can sized buds or so and they are SUPER dense buds, and super sticky despite not showing a ton of frost on the outside.
I have two Lemons in there to round it out that were freebies from a non-sponsor company we all know. I didn't care about them, as I wouldn't have chosen the strain to grow. However, they appear to be the same pheno, they are growing spectacularly, and they appear that they are going to yield quite well. The center colas on them are huge. Not too much side branching with this one and I did a bit less training on her than the others as a result. Once I realized how she was I kind of working I switched gears on training her a little bit to promote the main colas. Looks like it worked. So anyway, I feel like I kind of got lucky with the Lemons.
Anyway, that's my take on the genetics.

In terms of trichomes at harvest, I'm a coke-weed guy. I need the up/cerebral buzz, not the couch lock. I harvest at 100% cloudy and just the occasional amber here and there so as to get max THC and max "up."

In terms of your additives, I use the unsulphured blackstrap organic molasses, and I begin that on top of any other nutes as soon as I see preflowers. They get a tbsp molasses/gallon with every single watering until harvest, including through the flush. I break that up every third or fourth watering with a clear CalMag plus Iron "mini-flush," as for one they are processing 22 hours of light a day and need to replenish Calcium and Magnesium and Iron, and also cuz the unused molasses stays in the soil and messes up your Ph if you don't "rinse" it out occasionally. For nutes I am using the Fox Farms Big Bloom, which is basically worm and bat crap, and the Tiger Bloom. I dropped the Grow Big when budding started. Not a huge fan of the Grow Big, it's too harsh. I switched to the Botanicare Pro Grow Veg in the photo tent instead of it, and used it at low doses in the auto tent. I also augment with once a month top/down feeding of mycorrhizae to help out my roots. Haven't tried any of your other suggestions like ground nuts and such, but I'll check that out it sounds interesting. It also sounds like just different ways to add sugar and carbohydrates, same as molasses?

Anyway, thanks again. I appreciate any input you ever feel like sharing.

 

[Jon]

Omg jon don't be so hard on yourself. You still have a healthy garden. You seem so upset about her. Relax enjoy all those healthy ladies you have your a fantastic grower and should be so proud. One girl with a issue isn't worth you getting upset. Sounds like she might have root issues. But now she is out I would do my best to save her. I literally have a pile of dead girls behind the shed. But I fought to save everyone of them and learned something along the way.
Not every girl is a winner, don't be so hard on yourself.
Happy growing buddy.
Bill

Ha! You're the man, Bill, thanks. I know I'm being too hard on myself, but see the carnage post and you'll see how it was totally the right move and I'm SUPER happy about it now. And, I'm no idiot. I didn't trash the plant. Yes, I believe she has root issues. I think the garbage and old Miracle Grow bullshit I put in that pot eventually infected the roots with something she brought to the party. I put her out back on the deck, where she'll get great growing conditions. I'm going to work hard on her and see what happens. If I get her rocking again, by then the auto tent will all be harvested, and I'll bring her inside and let her fly solo in that tent to bud!!!!! That would be AWESOME. So yeah, I'm over it, thanks for the atta' boy, and kind words, and yeah - not to sound like an asshole, but I KNOW I'm about to crush that scrog and I KNOW the four plants that you see in the pictures are as healthy as can be by ANYONE'S standards, even the pros. So I have don't lack confidence at all and I'm ready to get 2 1/2 to 3 pounds from these four plants. HEH.

 

[Bill284]

Ha! You're the man, Bill, thanks. I know I'm being too hard on myself, but see the carnage post and you'll see how it was totally the right move and I'm SUPER happy about it now. And, I'm no idiot. I didn't trash the plant. Yes, I believe she has root issues. I think the garbage and old Miracle Grow bullshit I put in that pot eventually infected the roots with something she brought to the party. I put her out back on the deck, where she'll get great growing conditions. I'm going to work hard on her and see what happens. If I get her rocking again, by then the auto tent will all be harvested, and I'll bring her inside and let her fly solo in that tent to bud!!!!! That would be AWESOME. So yeah, I'm over it, thanks for the atta' boy, and kind words, and yeah - not to sound like an asshole, but I KNOW I'm about to crush that scrog and I KNOW the four plants that you see in the pictures are as healthy as can be by ANYONE'S standards, even the pros. So I have don't lack confidence at all and I'm ready to get 2 1/2 to 3 pounds from these four plants. HEH.

Keep on ROCKEN my friend.
Bill

 

[Jon]

Phototown Update
Day 64 Veg
Carnage Update and Awesome Outcome

So as promised here's the update on that Jelly Rancher. She's out back on the deck. She has had every bit of dead and dying growth removed. She's in the sun in excellent outdoor conditions. I will work on her and see what I can do with her. The leaves are all coming out curled down from day one of their life. They almost immediately turn rusty and browish and they die within a few days. Nothing has worked and I've tried everything. Right now she's all cleaned up and my guess is she's gonna be crapped up within two days. We'll see.

That leaves four of the healthiest plants I've ever seen anywhere with which to fill the screen. No problem. This will end up having a positive impact on yield, since it will take a little longer before I flip to fill the screen with one less plant, and thus the roots will be that many more days more well established. Also, the math on where to put what branches is easier with four plants instead of five, lol, and they'll all get the exactly even lighting versus having one plant in the very center. Although that is of minimal impact anyway considering the immense and extremely even footprint of the light. These girls are ready to rock and roll. Bring it on.

So onto the pics. First the pain. Then the perfection.

Photographs:

- Closeup damage to leaves pic 1
- Closeup damage to leaves pic 2
- Damaged plant in the tent pre dead growth removal looking deceptively healthy
- Pile of dead growth taken off plant
- Damaged plant in natural light post removal of all dead growth - this is what's left
- The final four
- Perspective shot on the final four


LET THE SCROGGING BEGIN!!!

 

[Diatomacious]

She's looking pretty good. I think you can save her.

 

[Jon]

She's looking pretty good. I think you can save her.

I think so too and I have thought that over and over again with this plant. I've brought her back three times now. If you look back in the journal, just four or five days ago she looked just like the other plants. Nothing changed. She just suddenly went south and none of the others did in the least. Gotta be specific to her and the only x factor involved that makes her different from the others is the crappy added soil. It's gotta be from there. I just think the garbage in the added soil, whatever it is (rust?), finally worked it's way down to the main feeder roots and once that happened she went south fast. If that's so (honestly I don't know for SURE) then there's no coming back for her. She looks okay now. By tomorrow I bet she looks crappy again. I'm just going to use plain water on her for a bit and watch her Ph and let her go and see what happens. Hope you're right.

 

[Diatomacious]

Flush that plant with a few gallons of clean water then re-apply your fertilizer at the usual dosage. That's your best bet in my opinion.

 

[Jon]

Photographic Update
Various Pictures That Don't Hurt

Pictures:

Picture 1 and 2 show the Jelly Rancher and the pot surgery with the soil I did pre flush yesterday.

- The recovery of the Jelly Rancher who got put outside yesterday is underway. Yesterday I scooped as much of the crappy soil out of the pot as I could. It was the very top most soil, I had used it to fill in around the root ball when I transplanted. Got most of it. Then I gave her a serious flushing. Ran about 10 gallons of water through her. Used the hose, lol. Then I took off every single dead or dying thing I could see. The pictures of her below are from just now this morning, and this is the best she has looked in a long time. No signs *yet* of that crappy curl down, rust colored growth thing happening today so far. ***Maybe*** @Diatomacious is right, I sure as hell hope so. So when she dries out we'll give her a good dose of nutes and see what she does. If I can bring her back and put a HUGE healthy plant by itself in the empty auto tent after I harvest them, and bud her in there, WOW would that be badass.

Picture 3 is the state of play in Phototown.

- This makes me happy.

Picture 4 is the state of play in Autotown.

- This also makes me happy. Does anyone with experience with autos have an opinion on what this tent may yield? Or perhaps can someone tell me how much bigger these sativa buds are going to get in the next 45-50 days? Everything in there except the Gorilla Zkittlez who's real close to harvest is gonna go a while, especially the Pineapple Express row in the middle who was the last to begin budding.

Picture 5 is an overhead shot of one of the Cinderella Jack plants which is starting to throw some serious frost.

- The Cinderella Jack buds are very dense and very crystalline all the way through. Wondering how tall and fat they'll get. They likely have around 50 days yet.

Picture 6 is a closeup side shot of another one of the Cinderella Jack colas from a different plant showing some serious girth, density, and crystal.

- I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty excited to try this bud. It STINKS. Very dank odor, much like Jack Herer, which is maybe not surprising since she is Jack Herer x Cinderella 99.

Pictures 7 and 8 are closeup shots from the side and overhead of a Lemon cola showing how aggressively her buds are reaching for the light, her girth, and her top just beginning to frost up.

- The Lemons are surprising me. Their buds are building very aggressively, and she is indeed beginning to smell like, well, Lemon. The two Lemons are beginning to add a citrus note to the overall tent odor which is dominated by the three Cinderella Jacks. I also get a cotton candyesque, sweet smell coming from the Gorilla Zkittlez. It smells amazing in there, and I can smell it leaking out of the tent just a tiny bit. Lol.

Picture 9 is an early budding shot of a Pineapple Express just beginning to grow.

- Every sign points to the Pineapple Express yielding hugely. They have TONS of bud sites that are viable and significant. They grow a lighter green than the other plants and are very beautiful to watch grow. I get transfixed starting at them. No smell yet but I can't wait to see what they've got in them.

Picture 10 is a Gorilla Zkittlez bud showing off her colors and showing her closeness to harvest.

- Just have no idea what this plant is gonna weigh dried and trimmed. Her buds are incredibly dense, very stinky, and have much more crystal inside than is showing on the sugar leaves. She's still all clear on her trichomes. Wow, I hope she continues to build. The buds seem to have gone into building overdrive the last few days. Perhaps a sign of the last two week final swelling?

Hope y'all enjoyed this Friday morning bud porn special. Have a great weekend guys and love your plants.

 

[Michael Hunt]

Good grief that auto tent is looking DANK!

Sorry to hear about the Jellyrancher but honestly she really doesn't look that bad. i'm not a soil guy, and having an irrational fear of stress induced hermies, I've been watching this unfold from the sidelines. Sorry if i haven't chimed in more, just a little out of my comfort zone and don't like giving bad advice. But she really doesnt look that bad man. I agree with @Bill284 , dont beat yourself up over it

 

[Jon]

Good grief that auto tent is looking DANK!

Sorry to hear about the Jellyrancher but honestly she really doesn't look that bad. i'm not a soil guy, and having an irrational fear of stress induced hermies, I've been watching this unfold from the sidelines. Sorry if i haven't chimed in more, just a little out of my comfort zone and don't like giving bad advice. But she really doesnt look that bad man. I agree with @Bill284 , dont beat yourself up over it

Lol, thanks Michael. I'm way past that now. And yeah, compared to yesterday since scooping out that garbage and a righteous flush, I believe she's going to come back. She looks WORLDS better today. There could only have been so much crap in that soil. Maybe the plant has worked it out at this point and is over it? I hope so cuz she's gonna be HUGE in about 6 weeks when the auto tent becomes empty and she's gonna go right in there on 12/12 if she recovers like it looks like she will. Ha! Might work out BETTER than expected!

And yeah, it's dank in there alright. When the Pineapples start to stink too it's gonna be crazy and I'm quite certain is going to stink up the garage despite my filter. Especially considering the smell is already leaking out. Lmao.

 

[Michael Hunt]

Lol, thanks Michael. I'm way past that now. And yeah, compared to yesterday since scooping out that garbage and a righteous flush, I believe she's going to come back. She looks WORLDS better today. There could only have been so much crap in that soil. Maybe the plant has worked it out at this point and is over it? I hope so cuz she's gonna be HUGE in about 6 weeks when the auto tent becomes empty and she's gonna go right in there on 12/12 if she recovers like it looks like she will. Ha! Might work out BETTER than expected!

And yeah, it's dank in there alright. When the Pineapples start to stink too it's gonna be crazy and I'm quite certain is going to stink up the garage despite my filter. Especially considering the smell is already leaking out. Lmao.

Hahaha you'll be 2 filter-ing in no time

 

[Jon]

Hahaha you'll be 2 filter-ing in no time

What's really crazy is that I can clearly see how the plant has responded to being in the natural sunlight. OH MY GOD plants really like the real sun. Who knew? Lmao. She is going nuts even after 36 hours and if she recovers this plant can really get big. IF she keeps recovering I'm going to get her "scrogged" where she sits with LST so when I toss her in the tent to bud she'll be close to the same level and spread out.

 

[Michael Hunt]

What's really crazy is that I can clearly see how the plant has responded to being in the natural sunlight. OH MY GOD plants really like the real sun. Who knew? Lmao. She is going nuts even after 36 hours and if she recovers this plant can really get big. IF she keeps recovering I'm going to get her "scrogged" where she sits with LST so when I toss her in the tent to bud she'll be close to the same level and spread out.

Haha i can only imagine. my buddy out in California is an outdoor grower and his plants usually always look healthy out in the field.

Make sure you don't track any pest back into the tent with her after sunbathing outside. If there's one thing i have learned about this state, it is that bugs are on a whole new level down here.

 

[Jon]

Hey @Backlipslide and @Emilya - we were talking a while back about if you ever put your plants out in the natural sunlight, and both of you said, basically, you don't and it wasn't worth the risk. Me too. But (see above couple posts of journal) I had to go down to four plants in the photo tent and put one of the Jelly Ranchers outside to try and fix the poor thing. Well she's been in the natural sunlight for two days now. WOW is she responding. The plants DEFINITELY know the difference between LEDs and the real sun. Who knew? So below are the closest I can give you to before and after (just these two days of difference), but wow, her response is astounding.

First picture is two days ago when I took her out of the tent and took off all the dead and/or about to dead crap. Before this picture she looked from the outside to be big and bushy, but she was hiding a ton of dead garbage once I got into her, and the leaves, even brand new ones, were immediately curling down and turning a rusty brown. So this is what was left two days ago.

Second picture is from today, after two days outside, and after scooping out the bad soil as best I could and giving her a righteous 10 gallon flush.

What do you guys think? Am I on the road to recovery? Today was the first day in about 10 that the new growth is green like it's supposed to be and the ends of the leaves are not curling down immediately.

 

[Jon]

Haha i can only imagine. my buddy out in California is an outdoor grower and his plants usually always look healthy out in the field.

Make sure you don't track any pest back into the tent with her after sunbathing outside. If there's one thing i have learned about this state, it is that bugs are on a whole new level down here.

Yeah, I'm as on that as I can be. Outside is a risk, but I considered her a loss anyway so we'll see what happens. She'll be alone, so it should be easy to control I hope. And as you can see from the Phototown picture, those four plants are gonna fill that screen in no time. I bet I go to flower inside of two weeks from today.