Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

Jon, you’re a talented grower. Saw your buds a couple pages back and they looked awesome! :ganjamon:
Thank you Xmas, I appreciate the kind words.
 
I dunno, Felipe did alright outside in hempy.


i don't have the climate. by the time we get 12/12 its usually snowing or close to. most outdoor gets pulled early here. otherwise it's greenhoused to extend the season.
 
i don't have the climate. by the time we get 12/12 its usually snowing or close to. most outdoor gets pulled early here. otherwise it's greenhoused to extend the season.
Interesting thing about this plant is that it's vegging at just under 12/12 right now. The days are getting longer. I'm going to keep her outside and train her, up pot to a 7, then at some point toss her in the 3x3 to flower under 10/14. I think 10/14 would do it. Unless Shed is correct and it begins to flower when it's ready before that time, which is a ways off yet. Then I guess I'd just leave it to do whatever it'll do outside.
 
Interesting thing about this plant is that it's vegging at just under 12/12 right now.


you can run them 12/12 from the start. they won't flower until they reach sexual maturation. they'll just flower earlier and be smaller.

running 12/12 then increasing daylight hours when they hit that point is playing with fire as far as hermies and other issues.
 
i love outdoor plant pics
i haven't grown outdoor so long i'm pretty sure it would be a disaster.
Outdoor growing is getting a lot harder as I get older. Crawling around deer trails on my knees in multi flora rose with a chainsaw and clippers just ain't fun anymore.

Usually in March is when I do a lot of the work like cuts, digs, soil placement and popping some of the seeds.
Kinda cool this year might plant a couple clones from last season.

Always fun when raccoon friends dig the plants up right after they are planted. Then deer occasionally decide to eat the young vegging plants.

A low maintenance plant in a twenty gallon hole may be a bust, yield an oz., or six+.
Larger plants simply equal larger problems.

Plant transport is stressful for the girls and plant transplant can have legal implications (living 80 or so miles from my outdoor grow). Blessed to own a closer property, but it is the side of a very steep hill where I would need to clear out several trees and brush off a shelf and still be two to four hours shy of optimal day light.

Smaller holes are easier to dig, but then water retention issues becomes a problem in dryer weather.

Last year was the perfect storm for bud rot, and PM.

If everything goes perfect then some assholes find your girls.

Despite the endless toils and threats growing like my ancestors appeals to the best part of my nature.
 
you can run them 12/12 from the start. they won't flower until they reach sexual maturation. they'll just flower earlier and be smaller.

running 12/12 then increasing daylight hours when they hit that point is playing with fire as far as hermies and other issues.
It's a seed that sprouted up in my pile of spent soil. It got big enough and was still healthy so me, Azimuth and Shed discussed it and came up with this experiment to see what'll happen. We don't care what happens to the plant, least of all me. But I gave her a fighting chance and as long as she's in veg and looking great, we go on. Well we go on anyway, but that's the point of the experiment - will it flower at sexual maturation or will it stay in veg as we cross the solstice, the days get longer, and the plant gets older. By my estimate it's about 20-25 days old now. We don't actually know what it is or how old it is exactly. Mystery plant experiment just for fun.

By the way - you and Shed agree. Me and Azimuth aren't sure but for the sake of the experiment, disagree. So that said, when approximately do you believe "sexual maturity" is? Around 60 days? Sooner? Cuz as soon as she's got a 3x3 canopy (assuming she stays in veg and doesn't hermie) she hits the tent. That takes about 60 days. So I personally feel that's enough time to know. It would be great if you guys are correct and at say, 58 days, when her canopy is basically ready to hit flower, she suddenly starts flowering. Whoo hoo!
 
It's a seed that sprouted up in my pile of spent soil. It got big enough and was still healthy so me, Azimuth and Shed discussed it and came up with this experiment to see what'll happen. We don't care what happens to the plant, least of all me. But I gave her a fighting chance and as long as she's in veg and looking great, we go on. Well we go on anyway, but that's the point of the experiment - will it flower at sexual maturation or will it stay in veg as we cross the solstice, the days get longer, and the plant gets older. By my estimate it's about 20-25 days old now. We don't actually know what it is or how old it is exactly. Mystery plant experiment just for fun.



it'll stay in veg unless it hits the turn. then it'll reveg until the light hits 12/12 again. saw it all the time in bc.




Outdoor growing is getting a lot harder as I get older. Crawling around deer trails on my knees in multi flora rose with a chainsaw and clippers just ain't fun anymore.

Usually in March is when I do a lot of the work like cuts, digs, soil placement and popping some of the seeds.
Kinda cool this year might plant a couple clones from last season.

Always fun when raccoon friends dig the plants up right after they are planted. Then deer occasionally decide to eat the young vegging plants.

A low maintenance plant in a twenty gallon hole may be a bust, yield an oz., or six+.
Larger plants simply equal larger problems.

Plant transport is stressful for the girls and plant transplant can have legal implications (living 80 or so miles from my outdoor grow). Blessed to own a closer property, but it is the side of a very steep hill where I would need to clear out several trees and brush off a shelf and still be two to four hours shy of optimal day light.

Smaller holes are easier to dig, but then water retention issues becomes a problem in dryer weather.

Last year was the perfect storm for bud rot, and PM.

If everything goes perfect then some assholes find your girls.

Despite the endless toils and threats growing like my ancestors appeals to the best part of my nature.




bears were always a problem. i used to bury fish guts then plant over it. if they got there soon enough the bears would smell it and dig up the plants.

rippers and such were not much of an issue but it did happen.

more often than not other growers would stumble on your patch and would leave it alone or even water them. we'd leave a note if we found one to let them know we weren't an issue. one guy had a patch 200ft from mine and i never knew he was watering mine. i couldn't figure out why they were doing so well. he had a pump and hose, we were near a stream, i used a bucket lol
 
sometime soon after the 5th node rises and the branches begin to alternate, the plant is mature enough to go into bloom. In photos this happens somewhere around week 4-5... in autos a bit sooner.


exactamundo ...:)
 
So that said, when approximately do you believe "sexual maturity" is? Around 60 days? Sooner? Cuz as soon as she's got a 3x3 canopy (assuming she stays in veg and doesn't hermie) she hits the tent. That takes about 60 days. So I personally feel that's enough time to know. It would be great if you guys are correct and at say, 58 days, when her canopy is basically ready to hit flower, she suddenly starts flowering. Whoo hoo!
I think it depends a lot on climate. In my cabinet where temps are runing in the high 60*F's, things are taking a looong time to move along. But I'd say it's mature enough whenever it starts throwing alternating nodes. When they're still offset they're not mature enough. So for me, it's a developement thing, not a number of days thing.
 
Is that why it was a disaster last time?


i've moved a few different places in the country. i'm on the cdn prairies now, and it gets a bit too cold to complete an outdoor proper most yrs.

there are plenty who run them though. there's tons of farmland. greenhousing and starting with established plants is usually how it's done. there are piles of abandoned farmyards, guys set up in the tree breaks, and access the old farm well for water. last part is the hardest and most dangerous.

edit : should add there's a lot less of it now.
 
Well, I've made it over here my friend. I'm going to try and maintain moving forward. Lovely little veggie you have there, I think her views are magnificent, much better than the ones mine get..I have a stoned gnome and a turtle at least for them...be happy to see this grow evolve as I am sooo curious about outside grows. Happy grow Monday!
 
Well, I've made it over here my friend. I'm going to try and maintain moving forward. Lovely little veggie you have there, I think her views are magnificent, much better than the ones mine get..I have a stoned gnome and a turtle at least for them...be happy to see this grow evolve as I am sooo curious about outside grows. Happy grow Monday!
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I thought you'd been here many times before Krissi1982, no? You trying to tell me all our interaction has been in your thread? That's impossible, isn't it? If not, hey, as Steve Winwood and Spencer Davis said, so glad you made it!!!!
 
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I thought you'd been here many times before Krissi1982, no? You trying to tell me all our interaction has been in your thread? That's impossible, isn't it? If not, hey, as Steve Winwood and Spencer Davis said, so glad you made it!!!!
No I meant I'm going to try to be more active and follow along as you go and not piece by piece like I had been doing, silly
 
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