Jon's First Outdoor Grow: Sugar Breath Photoperiod & Strawberry Banana Autoflower

Good morning Jon, I missed a bit last night.
Did you decide what your doing?
And what are the Kolar panels no the outside wall or the house?

Stay safe
Bill
Hi @Bill284, good morning. No, we're gonna decide at 6:30. I will post pics for you and we'll discuss if that's okay with you. I don't wanna make another long conversation about it, I'm done with going seven directions on what to do. Let's just look at the colas and their trichomes at 6:30 and see where they're at. If we think they're ready, both colas come down and the light gets lowered and the bottoms get a few more days to hopefully bulk up after removing their light thieves.

The Kohler panels are on the house next door. They are part of the system that about every third house installs because they're dumb and have more money to blow on dumb crap they don't need than we'll ever see. We don't have this system. It's a backup power generator substation for the house, basically, that takes over completely if a hurricane knocks everything out. Thing is, we rarely if ever get any hurricane problem down here on the west side. Maybe 30 years ago my grandmother endured on and it took the caged lennai completely off her backyard pool and trashed it. That one was serious for this area. But if they go up the east coast we get nothing, and if they go to the Gulf side we don't really get anything either, as we're east of places like New Orleans and such where they tend to hit on the Gulf side. It's kind of like a hurricane would have a hard geographical time hitting here. So these Kohler things, which cost god knows what, are everywhere. And the thing is that they have to test cycle like three times a week for an hour. They all do that in the early morning. It sounds like a jackhammer five feet away for an hour. SUCKS. Dumbass retired rich Republicans who come here to die in nice, identical rows of very expensive coffins.

Ok, rant over. I'll get back with you around 6:45 with pics. Thanks. I'm a bit salty this morning. Rare for me.

EDIT: Nope, rant not over. I can't tell you how much it sucks to live here. Nice digs aside, it's not that, despite that every house looks identical just about and are ten feet away from each other. No, it's the whole state. This is by far the most dysfunctional state I've ever lived in. It's insane here I couldn't even tell you. And I ride over to grab the mail and watch these people who don't even know they have one foot in their graves playing bocce and thinking they're living life. UGH. That's kind of part of why I got off big time on the hide in plain sight thing. Screw these assholes.

Ok, now I'm done. Sorry. Lol.
 
Hi @Bill284, good morning. No, we're gonna decide at 6:30. I will post pics for you and we'll discuss if that's okay with you. I don't wanna make another long conversation about it, I'm done with going seven directions on what to do. Let's just look at the colas and their trichomes at 6:30 and see where they're at. If we think they're ready, both colas come down and the light gets lowered and the bottoms get a few more days to hopefully bulk up after removing their light thieves.

The Kohler panels are on the house next door. They are part of the system that about every third house installs because they're dumb and have more money to blow on dumb crap they don't need than we'll ever see. We don't have this system. It's a backup power generator substation for the house, basically, that takes over completely if a hurricane knocks everything out. Thing is, we rarely if ever get any hurricane problem down here on the west side. Maybe 30 years ago my grandmother endured on and it took the caged lennai completely off her backyard pool and trashed it. That one was serious for this area. But if they go up the east coast we get nothing, and if they go to the Gulf side we don't really get anything either, as we're east of places like New Orleans and such where they tend to hit on the Gulf side. It's kind of like a hurricane would have a hard geographical time hitting here. So these Kohler things, which cost god knows what, are everywhere. And the thing is that they have to test cycle like three times a week for an hour. They all do that in the early morning. It sounds like a jackhammer five feet away for an hour. SUCKS. Dumbass retired rich Republicans who come here to die in nice, identical rows of very expensive coffins.

Ok, rant over. I'll get back with you around 6:45 with pics. Thanks. I'm a bit salty this morning. Rare for me.

EDIT: Nope, rant not over. I can't tell you how much it sucks to live here. Nice digs aside, it's not that, despite that every house looks identical just about and are ten feet away from each other. No, it's the whole state. This is by far the most dysfunctional state I've ever lived in. It's insane here I couldn't even tell you. And I ride over to grab the mail and watch these people who don't even know they have one foot in their graves playing bocce and thinking they're living life. UGH. That's kind of part of why I got off big time on the hide in plain sight thing. Screw these assholes.

Ok, now I'm done. Sorry. Lol.
I figured that's what they were.
I just didn't know Kohler made them.
Soon enough you will be settled in and Fla. will be a memory. :thumb:
Try and enjoy your last few months. :Namaste:

Stay safe
Bill
 
Alright @Bill284, in a word............nope.

As one of my drug dealers in high school used to say, "not today, papi." Lol.

I gotta put the damn camera and scope away for a few days.

These girls just ain't ready yet and won't be for days yet. I'm sick of chomping at the bit. Gotta chill. Keep telling yourself that, Jon. Fuc--ng CHILL.

See what I mean?

Here's the Strawberry Lemonade trichomes:

Here's the Dos Si Dos trichomes:


Here's some Strawberry Lemonade buds:




And here's some Dos Si Dos buds:


The DSD buds look a little more finished on a glance than the SL, but they're not. They really are almost at the exact same place. And the new growth popping on the SL isn't just "last gasp pops" as we thought yesterday. I mean, look at them. It's popping everywhere. The same is true on the DSD even if it doesn't quite appear that way in the pictures. The SL's still fattening up somehow, which I can't even believe. So I'm just going to continue to feed the damn crap out of them with every gun I have til they're done. And no more pics til Tuesday at least of these goddamn plants. Lmao. The colas look no different than these buds. New growth popping everywhere. These buds on the SL are so rock hard I could club someone with the cola.

CHILL JON, CHILL.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Those are some nice looking new pistils you've going on there. :thumb:
Thanks @Azimuth, wish I had something to do with it. Lol. Yeah, this plant seems to be the one that keeps on giving. I thought she was done doing this like three times now. Kind of crazy. The DSD is much easier to read. I've also grown three other DSDs, albeit autos, but the buds form the same way.
 
Alright @Bill284, in a word............nope.

As one of my drug dealers in high school used to say, "not today, papi." Lol.

I gotta put the damn camera and scope away for a few days.

These girls just ain't ready yet and won't be for days yet. I'm sick of chomping at the bit. Gotta chill. Keep telling yourself that, Jon. Fuc--ng CHILL.

See what I mean?

Here's the Strawberry Lemonade trichomes:

Here's the Dos Si Dos trichomes:


Here's some Strawberry Lemonade buds:




And here's some Dos Si Dos buds:


The DSD buds look a little more finished on a glance than the SL, but they're not. They really are almost at the exact same place. And the new growth popping on the SL isn't just "last gasp pops" as we thought yesterday. I mean, look at them. It's popping everywhere. The same is true on the DSD even if it doesn't quite appear that way in the pictures. The SL's still fattening up somehow, which I can't even believe. So I'm just going to continue to feed the damn crap out of them with every gun I have til they're done. And no more pics til Tuesday at least of these goddamn plants. Lmao. The colas look no different than these buds. New growth popping everywhere. These buds on the SL are so rock hard I could club someone with the cola.

CHILL JON, CHILL.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Hehe your hilarious Amigo.
Take a deep breath and smoke one.
No rush just enjoy the ride. :thumb:

Stay safe
Bill
 
Hehe your hilarious Amigo.
Take a deep breath and smoke one.
No rush just enjoy the ride. :thumb:

Stay safe
Bill
Lol. As usual Bill, you take my word salad and boil it down to the bare essentials. Heh.
 
Yield Report
Blueberry Photo

A little of the skinny:

- Coco (first try ever)
- 3 gallon pot (never again)
- No Training - idea was to let it go outdoors naturally - just topped her one time above node 5 - then had to move her indoors after already well into flower - definitely not trained for a tent grow - she was 7 feet tall with the pot when she hit the tent before I bent the cola over and growing naturally like a Christmas tree-ish shape
- Harvested Day 56 of flower (I could have let her go longer, I took her a bit early, all white trichs, no amber)

Yield:
Jarred and pictured finished trimmed buds stabilized at 62%: 135 g = 4.8 ounces
Flarf/Small buds too small to trim but legit that I'm smoking or it hit the Trim Bin: 1/2 ounce little buds/3/4 ounce flarf

So the official yield is 4.8 oz as all we count is what's in the jars.
More flarf and small non-trimmable buds than I wanted or expected by a mile to be honest. The lower branches that got the least light looked okay at harvest, but when I trimmed them down there was tons of leaf and the buds in the middle of it all weren't dense at all like the ones in the jar. I suspect the Dos Si Dos will be similar, not as bad. And the SL is big and dense top to bottom. Point being this plant was honestly a bit disappointing on the yield side. Not that it's her fault. and not that I really care, cuz it's plenty and I learned a ton from her. It's an amazing strain and it smells awesome and the buds in the jar are dense and sweet and tasty and covered in trichomes and pretty dang powerful - I kind of made an "up" indica, lol. If she had finished outdoors as she was she was a 7 ounce plant I bet. Same if I trained her for the tent and she grew up there. The move and shape of the plant when I had to put the coco girls in the tent pronounced itself the most negatively yield-wise with this one.

All that said, I am not going to complain about almost five ounces of weed that tastes and smells this good already. Not at all. But I'll bet my wheelchair that both the DSD and the SL outyield it by a significant margin. Well obviously the SL is going to. But my money's on the DSD also, her buds aren't that big, but they're very dense and heavy for their size. And the cola is ridiculous even though it'll get broken apart, lol.

Here's the yield, a bud I'm about to smoke a piece of, and a closeup of a bud:

135 bb.jpg


BB stable bud.jpg


BB stable close .jpg
 
Yield Report
Blueberry Photo

A little of the skinny:

- Coco (first try ever)
- 3 gallon pot (never again)
- No Training - idea was to let it go outdoors naturally - just topped her one time above node 5 - then had to move her indoors after already well into flower - definitely not trained for a tent grow - she was 7 feet tall with the pot when she hit the tent before I bent the cola over and growing naturally like a Christmas tree-ish shape
- Harvested Day 56 of flower (I could have let her go longer, I took her a bit early, all white trichs, no amber)

Yield:
Jarred and pictured finished trimmed buds stabilized at 62%: 135 g = 4.8 ounces
Flarf/Small buds too small to trim but legit that I'm smoking or it hit the Trim Bin: 1/2 ounce little buds/3/4 ounce flarf

So the official yield is 4.8 oz as all we count is what's in the jars. More flarf and small non-trimmable buds than I wanted or expected by a mile to be honest. The lower branches that got the least light looked okay at harvest, but when I trimmed them down there was tons of leaf and the buds in the middle of it all weren't dense at all like the ones in the jar. I suspect the Dos Si Dos will be similar, not as bad. And the SL is big and dense top to bottom. Point being this plant was honestly a bit disappointing on the yield side. Not that it's her fault. and not that I really care, cuz it's plenty and I learned a ton from her. It's an amazing strain and it smells awesome and the buds in the jar are dense and sweet and tasty and covered in trichomes and pretty dang powerful - I kind of made an "up" indica, lol. If she had finished outdoors as she was she was a 7 ounce plant I bet. Same if I trained her for the tent and she grew up there. The move and shape of the plant when I had to put the coco girls in the tent pronounced itself the most negatively yield-wise with this one.

All that said, I am not going to complain about almost five ounces of weed that tastes and smells this good already. Not at all. But I'll bet my wheelchair that both the DSD and the SL outyield it by a significant margin. Well obviously the SL is going to. But my money's on the DSD also, her buds aren't that big, but they're very dense and heavy for their size. And the cola is ridiculous even though it'll get broken apart, lol.

Here's the yield, a bud I'm about to smoke a piece of, and a closeup of a bud:

135 bb.jpg


BB stable bud.jpg


BB stable close .jpg
Congratulations @Jon, nice buds.
 
I figured that's what they were.
I just didn't know Kohler made them.
Soon enough you will be settled in and Fla. will be a memory. :thumb:
Try and enjoy your last few months. :Namaste:

Stay safe
Bill
I moved from Florida and I don't think I ever went back to visit yet do t miss the humid day days there can't breathe walk out of the house need another shower. Screw that

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Yield Report
Blueberry Photo

A little of the skinny:

- Coco (first try ever)
- 3 gallon pot (never again)
- No Training - idea was to let it go outdoors naturally - just topped her one time above node 5 - then had to move her indoors after already well into flower - definitely not trained for a tent grow - she was 7 feet tall with the pot when she hit the tent before I bent the cola over and growing naturally like a Christmas tree-ish shape
- Harvested Day 56 of flower (I could have let her go longer, I took her a bit early, all white trichs, no amber)

Yield:
Jarred and pictured finished trimmed buds stabilized at 62%: 135 g = 4.8 ounces
Flarf/Small buds too small to trim but legit that I'm smoking or it hit the Trim Bin: 1/2 ounce little buds/3/4 ounce flarf

So the official yield is 4.8 oz as all we count is what's in the jars. More flarf and small non-trimmable buds than I wanted or expected by a mile to be honest. The lower branches that got the least light looked okay at harvest, but when I trimmed them down there was tons of leaf and the buds in the middle of it all weren't dense at all like the ones in the jar. I suspect the Dos Si Dos will be similar, not as bad. And the SL is big and dense top to bottom. Point being this plant was honestly a bit disappointing on the yield side. Not that it's her fault. and not that I really care, cuz it's plenty and I learned a ton from her. It's an amazing strain and it smells awesome and the buds in the jar are dense and sweet and tasty and covered in trichomes and pretty dang powerful - I kind of made an "up" indica, lol. If she had finished outdoors as she was she was a 7 ounce plant I bet. Same if I trained her for the tent and she grew up there. The move and shape of the plant when I had to put the coco girls in the tent pronounced itself the most negatively yield-wise with this one.

All that said, I am not going to complain about almost five ounces of weed that tastes and smells this good already. Not at all. But I'll bet my wheelchair that both the DSD and the SL outyield it by a significant margin. Well obviously the SL is going to. But my money's on the DSD also, her buds aren't that big, but they're very dense and heavy for their size. And the cola is ridiculous even though it'll get broken apart, lol.

Here's the yield, a bud I'm about to smoke a piece of, and a closeup of a bud:

135 bb.jpg


BB stable bud.jpg


BB stable close .jpg
Nice nice buds bro. That one in middle hell yeah. Lmao.
 
Weird Update from Cocotown
Dos Si Dos Weirdness
A Cleanup and Repositioning of Plants


So I was cleaning up the tent, trimming dead leaves, and vacuuming out runoff and inspecting the plants. I let all the bamboo go and took it out. Everything released because I knew everything would stay. It did. All of that was normal.

Then, when all that was done, I had a much better view of the plants, and also for whatever reason decided to lift the lower branches and look underneath them. I guess I was wondering if there would be any seeds in some of the DSD branches as @Emilya predicted early on due to pistils which came out with dark tips and some of her branches may have touched the hermie Strawberry Banana before she hit the tent.

Well, thankfully, for a change, Emilya's prediction was not true, this plant is 100% seed free. Perhaps miraculously. HOWEVER, AND IF YOU USE AN AC UNIT ON YOUR TENT THIS IS IMPORTANT, on ONE branch of the Dos Si Dos, which happened to be the ONE branch sitting right on top of where the cold AC air comes into the tent, I found very weird, mold/bug looking stuff. On the underside of the branch only, you couldn't see if from the top if you were looking at the buds. It must have started low and was moving up the branch. NO other branches were affected, only the one directly on top of where the AC air comes out.

Well, never had plants in the tent looking this way, so never encountered this before. DO NOT LET YOUR BUDS STAY IN THE SPOT RIGHT WHERE THE AC COMES INTO THE TENT.

I thought this was bugs at first. It's not. I have no idea what it is, but it's mold related. I was able to save the top, which is currently in the toaster oven waiting for me to get it and smoke it as tester buds. The bottom was all affected.

I cut the branch because I had no idea if the stuff would spread. I looked at every branch on both plants, and all of them are perfect. So I'm left with only the conclusion that this is from getting blasted with cold AC air and likely water condensating on the underside of this branch and causing it to mold. Just never seen mold that looks like this.

Weird right? Anyone been here?

I'm not upset, it cost me only the very lowest branch on the Dos Si Dos plant which was nothing anyway, there might be two grams saved off it in the toaster oven. Cost me a couple grams at worst. I'm glad I learned the lesson. Hey @Kanno26, weren't you the one asking me AC questions? There's another piece of information you might want to bank.

So here's a few shots to show you what I'm referring to. This is the moldy/bug looking stuff:

All the above was confined to this lower part of the lowest node branch on the plant right where the AC hits it:

At that point it stopped and I was able to save this, the top, which is about to get tried toaster oven style

That stuff is crazy weird. It came off the stem like wet dust. It's not bugs or anything alive other than yes, I am aware that mold is an organism from the fungi family and is alive. But it has no little legs. Lol. It doesn't crawl at a speed you can watch. Ha. It's green as you see in the pics, but looked black until I saw the pics.

Anyway, there's a weird cocotown update.

And I didn't forget you, @Moony and @StoneOtter, so here's a picture and a closeup of a way too early wet trimmed Dos Si Dos bud. Lmao!!!!


Or you @Bill284. Here's cocotown after the cleanup, branch removal, dead leaf removal, and water tray removal, with the plants repositioned so as to not be near the AC intake vent. The last picture shows heavy Strawberry Lemonade branches falling over. Lol!!
:


Well, it wouldn't be a Jon Grow without problems. Thankfully this one was quite minor and easily fixed.
 
Weird Update from Cocotown
Dos Si Dos Weirdness
A Cleanup and Repositioning of Plants


So I was cleaning up the tent, trimming dead leaves, and vacuuming out runoff and inspecting the plants. I let all the bamboo go and took it out. Everything released because I knew everything would stay. It did. All of that was normal.

Then, when all that was done, I had a much better view of the plants, and also for whatever reason decided to lift the lower branches and look underneath them. I guess I was wondering if there would be any seeds in some of the DSD branches as @Emilya predicted early on due to pistils which came out with dark tips and some of her branches may have touched the hermie Strawberry Banana before she hit the tent.

Well, thankfully, for a change, Emilya's prediction was not true, this plant is 100% seed free. Perhaps miraculously. HOWEVER, AND IF YOU USE AN AC UNIT ON YOUR TENT THIS IS IMPORTANT, on ONE branch of the Dos Si Dos, which happened to be the ONE branch sitting right on top of where the cold AC air comes into the tent, I found very weird, mold/bug looking stuff. On the underside of the branch only, you couldn't see if from the top if you were looking at the buds. It must have started low and was moving up the branch. NO other branches were affected, only the one directly on top of where the AC air comes out.

Well, never had plants in the tent looking this way, so never encountered this before. DO NOT LET YOUR BUDS STAY IN THE SPOT RIGHT WHERE THE AC COMES INTO THE TENT.

I thought this was bugs at first. It's not. I have no idea what it is, but it's mold related. I was able to save the top, which is currently in the toaster oven waiting for me to get it and smoke it as tester buds. The bottom was all affected.

I cut the branch because I had no idea if the stuff would spread. I looked at every branch on both plants, and all of them are perfect. So I'm left with only the conclusion that this is from getting blasted with cold AC air and likely water condensating on the underside of this branch and causing it to mold. Just never seen mold that looks like this.

Weird right? Anyone been here?

I'm not upset, it cost me only the very lowest branch on the Dos Si Dos plant which was nothing anyway, there might be two grams saved off it in the toaster oven. Cost me a couple grams at worst. I'm glad I learned the lesson. Hey @Kanno26, weren't you the one asking me AC questions? There's another piece of information you might want to bank.

So here's a few shots to show you what I'm referring to. This is the moldy/bug looking stuff:

All the above was confined to this lower part of the lowest node branch on the plant right where the AC hits it:

At that point it stopped and I was able to save this, the top, which is about to get tried toaster oven style

That stuff is crazy weird. It came off the stem like wet dust. It's not bugs or anything alive other than yes, I am aware that mold is an organism from the fungi family and is alive. But it has no little legs. Lol. It doesn't crawl at a speed you can watch. Ha. It's green as you see in the pics, but looked black until I saw the pics.

Anyway, there's a weird cocotown update.

And I didn't forget you, @Moony and @StoneOtter, so here's a picture and a closeup of a way too early wet trimmed Dos Si Dos bud. Lmao!!!!


Or you @Bill284. Here's cocotown after the cleanup, branch removal, dead leaf removal, and water tray removal, with the plants repositioned so as to not be near the AC intake vent. The last picture shows heavy Strawberry Lemonade branches falling over. Lol!!
:


Well, it wouldn't be a Jon Grow without problems. Thankfully this one was quite minor and easily fixed.
I think your going to have to scrub out that tent when your done.xxx
Kill that shit , bleach every. :Namaste:

Stay safe
Bill
 
I think your going to have to scrub out that tent when your done.xxx
Kill that shit , bleach every. :Namaste:

Stay safe
Bill
The second it's empty. I know. Not bleach though. I use hydrogen peroxide and warm water at about 10-15%, then lemon juice and warm water wipe down, then clean warm water wipe down, then soft towel dry. I don't mix my tent and bleach personally, except if it got a bit of mold on the black outer surfaces down low. Not the interior. Anyway, I just looked again as close as a human can look. It had to be related to where that branch was in relation to the AC intake. And you know what those bug looking things are? They are pieces of the buds from higher up that washed down in the tiny rivulet of water that must have been going from where it stopped down the stem towards the base. When I broke it down, the part of the branch that was getting blasted had a very wet interior stem, very wet, droopy leaves, and the buds were falling apart, only you could only see it from underneath. The part of the branch that was higher up above the line of the incoming AC blast was completely unaffected. I suspect a nodal break right at that spot or so was also partially responsible for that save, cuz there was an inch or so of stem between where it was moldy and where it wasn't. The water was picking tiny bud pieces off and washing them down the stem, where they stop on the roughness of the stem and them mold. Had I not stopped it the entire branch would have gone, and who knows what else. But in my experience, if there was an ongoing issue, I'd know it by now and see it elsewhere. No big deal. And those buds I saved got me high as hell! Harsh, sure, early, sure, but I nailed the toaster oven for a change and smoked it dried and green....lmao. Gotta get @Emilya to help me dial that puppy in a little better, she's a master. Lol.

No report from Cocotown today. Nobody would believe me anyway. The new growth seems to be accelerating, not winding down. It's truly insane, never seen this before. I'll post in a day or two cuz they are visibly fatter this morning than they appeared yesterday. Some of those new growth spots have filled out. I'm so in love with this strain. I have one seed of her left. I want to train this plant proper and see what she's got in a real pot of coco. Maybe not next time, but sometime. Great strain. Can't even describe the smell. Except STRONG.
 
Can't tell but they look like this right feels like nobs on the stems brown to black

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I responded to your message about this too. No, not that. These weren't hard or attached to the stem. I'm 99% sure I properly identified what happened and what they are. I scoped them. They're pieces of bud in my case. Thank god I don't have whatever the hell that is. Lmao! Thanks, D.
 
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