CatfishKnight
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I use clone. What's the scoop on clone?
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Credit goes to The National Pesticide Information Center.
Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a species of bacteria that lives in soil. It makes proteins that are toxic to some insects when eaten, but not others. The proteins are not toxic to humans because, like all mammals, we cannot activate them. Bt is not toxic to non-target wildlife. However, one type of Bt (aizawi) can be toxic to honeybees. Bt is used as an insecticide, typically, for insect larvae. Remember, it has to be eaten to work.
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So, it is already in most soils. Nothing to worry about as far as the bacteria itself getting into your plant and the consumption thereafter. What the mosquito dunks are being held together with would be my concern.
There is 89% of the dunk not being accounted for here. I couldn't find what is holding them together. Not listed on the EPA website. So there is this concern.
Binders aren't subject to strict rules like main ingredients are.
All I can seem to find on it is telling us not to worry but at the same time you certainly don't want to breathe it in or let it come into contact with mucosa.
So either there is an irritant in the binders used to form the dunks or there is some interaction with BT and humans which contradicts the above article.
If I was thinking about using them ,I would want to look deeper into the manufacturing process.
So...inconclusive ,for me at least.
Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a species of bacteria that lives in soil. It makes proteins that are toxic to some insects when eaten, but not others. The proteins are not toxic to humans because, like all mammals, we cannot activate them. Bt is not toxic to non-target wildlife. However, one type of Bt (aizawi) can be toxic to honeybees. Bt is used as an insecticide, typically, for insect larvae. Remember, it has to be eaten to work.
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So, it is already in most soils. Nothing to worry about as far as the bacteria itself getting into your plant and the consumption thereafter. What the mosquito dunks are being held together with would be my concern.
There is 89% of the dunk not being accounted for here. I couldn't find what is holding them together. Not listed on the EPA website. So there is this concern.
Binders aren't subject to strict rules like main ingredients are.
All I can seem to find on it is telling us not to worry but at the same time you certainly don't want to breathe it in or let it come into contact with mucosa.
So either there is an irritant in the binders used to form the dunks or there is some interaction with BT and humans which contradicts the above article.
If I was thinking about using them ,I would want to look deeper into the manufacturing process.
So...inconclusive ,for me at least.
CatfishKnight
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Thanks Virgin for the information.
On my package it says several time only for decoration plants, not for plants you eat. There is even a warning that you should not contain the water to much and that Kinda made me wonder. The active ingredient is Indolylboterzuur(in Dutch) so let me check that and get back to you
Ok so on the package they clearly say non edible plants, but the website was not clear toe me. So i send them a email with the question if it could do any harm. Ive noticed alot of peeps here use it so we better check right? when i get a response i'll let you know 
Clonex thats the link to the pic where the warning is...
Clonex thats the link to the pic where the warning is...
CatfishKnight
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Thanks NaturalSpirit...Ok so on the package they clearly say non edible plants, but the website was not clear toe me. So i send them a email with the question if it could do any harm. Ive noticed alot of peeps here use it so we better check right? when i get a response i'll let you know
I had the Clonex in my hand and realized it would be a waste to let it go old. So i'd like to know for myself to and this way others might to
Srry for the hijack @InTheShed at least you got a decent morning read now right? haha.
Little bright news... dopped 8 op my WW x WW x CBD Euophoria in the ground to do some pheno hunting in my precious baby's
CatfishKnight
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I use a liquid clonex to hold the clones while I get more. I then scrape the stalk of the new cut, then split the cut end and dip into the clonex gel. I get 100% success rate almost always on the new clones.I had the Clonex in my hand and realized it would be a waste to let it go old. So i'd like to know for myself to and this way others might to
Srry for the hijack @InTheShed at least you got a decent morning read now right? haha.
Little bright news... dopped 8 op my WW x WW x CBD Euophoria in the ground to do some pheno hunting in my precious baby's
Yeah i know it works great, that's exactly why i send them a email as the "decoration plant only" message is their own. That the product works is something we can all agree on i think
nobodyhere
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Not going to explain how stuff works to you. You can google till your hearts content.
Your statement makes no sense. I don't know what the 'stuff' you refer to you bought is, and most shit labeled for rose use is systemic. And oil based at that.
BT-I that I cited is neither of the above, now if they put it in your 'rose stuff' that is another thing. And why do you keep citing rose stuff on a weed forum?
You should familiarize yourself with the pesticides method of action.
Chlordane and BT-i don't work the same way.
Mosquito dunks that are gray, slower release, I chunk in the cisterns by the pack. I water with this, my dogs drink from it, sometimes after it freezes I will. But I am a dirty stoner. The ppm of that water is around 8-10. I am pretty sure it's 10ppm of brain eating amoebae.
Mosquito bits are faster acting. Most growers use these if their using BT. Some mix with water and let water sit overnight or a few days on them. I mix them into my soil mix.
I spray outside of flower with BT and Spinosad. Both have different targets and different lengths of effectiveness in a high UV environment from 4 hours to ~ 7 days. this BT is different than the above BT-I
Boy I tell ya, ya can't miss a day around this place and everything changes... Tryin to slide back into my happy life groove. Thanks for keepin me around Shed!
Much Appreciay
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CatfishKnight
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I bought it at Lowe's I think. It was in a box and you sprinkled it around the base of the Rose bushes and watered... I was just telling what the instructions said. Lol
CatfishKnight
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Glad someone has used it alot and let us know that it is safe...
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Wow I have a brand new bottle of Clone x I was going to use for clones when I get to that point I hope it is ok to use
smokesbetter
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Frequently Asked Questions - Hydrodynamics International
Can you still use Clonex Gel if it's liquefied? How do you use Clonex Mist? Visit the Frequently Asked Questions page for answers to these questions and
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Starting off with this top result from the simple google search "clonex for edible plants" that Alafornia just beat me to :
"Clonex Rooting Gel is registered with the EPA and is approved for use on all food crops, including medicinal plants, in all 50 states plus Washington DC and Puerto Rico and is the only rooting gel approved by the Colorado Department of Agriculture for propagating medicinal plants."
On to the quotes:
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:"Clonex Rooting Gel is registered with the EPA and is approved for use on all food crops, including medicinal plants, in all 50 states plus Washington DC and Puerto Rico and is the only rooting gel approved by the Colorado Department of Agriculture for propagating medicinal plants."
On to the quotes:
@CatfishKnight did you skip over this suggestion?
Keep the pressure really low then, certainly for those with pistils! No clue where they are hiding in the tent though...
Nah
.Roses are not cannabis. Please don't use any old product on your cannabis. Check the forums for products that work for cannabis, and remember there can be different ones for veg and flower.
Indeed. Thanks for that post nobody!
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smokesbetter
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has anyone grown this and did it produce like it says ? Fast Buds - Pineapple Express (5pack) - Neptune Seed Bank 
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Hay shed I check on my low and slow bud in the fridge It seems to be dried out it has been in the fridge for 17 days now and if I have enough dry weight I will make some oil for caps and some for butter. I have read several post where you describe how to make the Oil for your caps using the MBM so I am excited to try it . you run the MBM at 160 for 8 hrs. then let it cool over night then another 8hrs. at 160 then strain and put oil in the fridge over night then take it out and fill your caps do I have that right?, Oh yes Decarb first at 240 for an hour does that sound right ?