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Thanks Scottay! Stop by between 6 and 9pm...we'll be sitting on the front porch handing out candy to the kids and weed to our friends. :thumb:
I soooooo soooo much would like to burn one up with you (and several others on here) Truly so many funny and kind people on here. You're alright for a stoner!! 💯😎✌️🎶
 
Thanks Carmen! I moved the drying operation from the garage to my daughter's old room and now the house smells
Stinky!

I've got my rack of branches drying in the basement and even with a HEPA air filter going it is pungent upstairs. The backyard, the back decks, from one end of the house to the other, closest to the garden, smells like skunk almost constantly. I don't remember it smelling so much last harvests...
 
Stinky!

I've got my rack of branches drying in the basement and even with a HEPA air filter going it is pungent upstairs. The backyard, the back decks, from one end of the house to the other, closest to the garden, smells like skunk almost constantly. I don't remember it smelling so much last harvests...
Nothing better than a house that smells like freshly harvested cannabis I'd say!
Nice haul as always Shed! Most impressive!
Thanks, and thanks for stopping by Rob! :ciao:
 
Nothing better than a house that smells like freshly harvested cannabis I'd say!

Thanks, and thanks for stopping by Rob! :ciao:
I’ve been stopping by, just been in lurk mode for a while. I’m thinking about starting another one of my amazing journals though… :lot-o-toke: :p
 
Bloody wonderful job, Mr Shed!

So what's next?

Stop by between 6 and 9pm...we'll be sitting on the front porch handing out candy to the kids and weed to our friends. :thumb:
I need to apply for a new passport!
Nothing better than a house that smells like freshly harvested cannabis I'd say!
I used to say that but a few weeks ago I came home from work to find my house covered in scaffolding. That was 2 days after my harvest lol. My landlord decided to do work on my roof but didn't tell me. Woopsie! Nobody's said anything so I think we're good.
 
Sunday's double post starts here if you missed it!



Thanks Scottay! Stop by between 6 and 9pm...we'll be sitting on the front porch handing out candy to the kids and weed to our friends. :thumb:
That's gotta' look a little "off," having a bunch of grown-ups lined up outside your front door on Halloween, all holding empty sandwich bags. 😁
 
For those who still believe you can flush nutrients from the buds before harvest, yet another article, summarizing a research paper linked below this one:

The link to the original research on the bottom of the page is broken. Here is the original research paper. The information on flushing starts on page 51, and the bar graph of the nutrient breakdown in the dried flower starts on page 71.

There was NO statistical difference in the nutrient levels in the buds after two weeks of flushing IN HYDRO! You read that correctly: in a 100% nutrient-free environment for two weeks before harvest, the dried buds had the same levels of N, S, P, K, Mg, and Ca as the buds that were fed.

So, let's review...you cannot flush nutes from your buds by feeding only water before harvest.

To be fair, the study did not find a statistically significant loss in mass or THC due to flushing, so @TheMadDabber's money-saving reason holds.

The upshot? Flush if you want to, but please stop telling people it's to rid the buds of the "nute taste."

Thanks for reading, and please don't argue the point if you don't have linked scientific studies that contradict these results. Now let's move on to other things.
Love that you posted this about flushing. I’m new to growing and have been doing so much research and reading. I really found the scientific method used very informative and helpful. I too
 
Bloody wonderful job, Mr Shed! So what's next?
Thank you Professor! Next up will be trying to germinate some 30 year old Afghani reg seeds that smokesbetter dropped off at my house a while back. I'll be using bananas (and maybe other ethylene producing fruits) to up the chances of germination. If I get a female in that mix I'll be cloning it, reversing one, and making new seeds from it.

Gotta get some to sprout first, so I don't want to get too far out over my skis!
I need to apply for a new passport!
We'll be here as my wife gets back from the UK a week before Halloween. 🎃
I used to say that but a few weeks ago I came home from work to find my house covered in scaffolding. That was 2 days after my harvest lol. My landlord decided to do work on my roof but didn't tell me. Woopsie! Nobody's said anything so I think we're good.
Damn that could have been a tough spot, but maybe once they saw all the bones and rotting meat in the compost pile they thought it would be better not to ask questions.
That's gotta' look a little "off," having a bunch of grown-ups lined up outside your front door on Halloween, all holding empty sandwich bags.
The grownups get to come inside for chili to go with the green. Kids don't make it in the house!
Trick or treat. I wish you were closer I would go to your house and bring a joint get a joint and smoke at your doorstep. 🍋
Sounds like the start of a great Los Angeles evening Keith. :thumb:
Love that you posted this about flushing. I’m new to growing and have been doing so much research and reading. I really found the scientific method used very informative and helpful. I too
Greeting Jenni and :welcome: to my perpetual journal! It's always nice to have science-based growers here, and feel free to ask any questions that come to mind. This thread is crawling with knowledgeable growers who can help you out.
 
Plants need nitrogen all the way through flower, almost as much nitrogen as potassium, and very little phosphorus all the way through. And I make sure I'm not overfeeding them with N because I'm sticking to specific ppm numbers, just like folks bumping MC do according to their feed charts. My late flower mix maxes out at around 160ppm of nitrogen, which would be 6.3g/gallon of MC, but I'm nowhere near what that amount of MC would be for potassium at 210ppm or calcium at 133ppm because MC is not my only nutrient source.

I've posted these before, but this is a pdf with plant analysis charts and graphs (with full detailed lab analysis) done on the macro and micronutrients found in three different strains of cannabis plant during veg and flower.

The varieties and analysis are from 2003, but I don't think we have modified the plant in the last 17 years to the extent that the nutrient results would vary that greatly today. Here are screenshots of the first three graphs:


white rhino plant analysis.JPG



hash bud plant analysis.JPG



berlin plant analysis.JPG



Two out of three of them used more nitrogen in flower than in veg!
I am only 3 years behind on this thread, my timing has always been bad but geeze!

This is an incredibly interesting thread, but as with all intelligent things, throws me for a loop. I get that the above measures were taken during veg and flower, super informative I would not have guessed the outcome. Would the time of veg/flower that these measures were taken make a difference? In other words, wouldn't the values change week to week as the grow progresses? The above are just single snapshots in time within each phase? I see plants with gorgeous colors at the end of flower, from what I assume is a reduction in N during that time. Does this suggest that, while that faded appearance may "look" cool, it might not be the best for the plant end product (flower production/quality)? You mentioned your late flower feeds only have 160 something ppm's of N, how do you know that (a calculation using those numbers on the front of my nute line container probably?). Thanks
 
Trick or treat. I wish you were closer I would go to your house and bring a joint get a joint and smoke at your doorstep. 🍋
Puff puff...pass to the left...lol
You are not the only one
 
Next up will be trying to germinate some 30 year old Afghani reg seeds that smokesbetter dropped off
Wowzers! Are they landraces? I was just looking at some Himalayan Sativa seeds I found in a draw. The temptation to germinate them is strong but then I remembered when I tried to grow those Malana Creams a couple of years back. They all hermied! Maybe just one seed for now.
 
I am only 3 years behind on this thread, my timing has always been bad but geeze!
Whenever you're here is the right time 024!
This is an incredibly interesting thread, but as with all intelligent things, throws me for a loop. I get that the above measures were taken during veg and flower, super informative I would not have guessed the outcome. Would the time of veg/flower that these measures were taken make a difference? In other words, wouldn't the values change week to week as the grow progresses? The above are just single snapshots in time within each phase? I see plants with gorgeous colors at the end of flower, from what I assume is a reduction in N during that time. Does this suggest that, while that faded appearance may "look" cool, it might not be the best for the plant end product (flower production/quality)? You mentioned your late flower feeds only have 160 something ppm's of N, how do you know that (a calculation using those numbers on the front of my nute line container probably?). Thanks
All the charts that make up those graphs used to be available on the web but the site has disappeared. I have the pdf but I don't think there's a way to upload it here. I can email it to you if you want to send me a PM.

You can watch the two videos where he explains the whole process on @farside05's thread:
Growing Without Bloom Nutes By Farside05

And nowhere in nature does the soil suddenly lose its nitrogen in the fall (or any elements for that matter), so there's no reason to assume that decreasing nitrogen is anything the plants expect or want to happen. All the colors that come from flushing at the end or withholding specific elements are just the plant eating itself as it's trying to make it to harvest. I feed until chop since the plant is still "growing," and LOS growers (who always claim to have the finest of weed ;) ) obviously do as well.

I do use a calculator to figure out what's in my nute mix, and 160ppm of N would be considered high by the standards of those who claim that cutting N is a better idea. Not by me though as that's about where I max out nitrogen in flower.
Puff puff...pass to the left...lol
You are not the only one
LOL!
Wowzers! Are they landraces? I was just looking at some Himalayan Sativa seeds I found in a draw. The temptation to germinate them is strong but then I remembered when I tried to grow those Malana Creams a couple of years back. They all hermied! Maybe just one seed for now.
Here's how sb described them:

there Afghani from a big grow back in 1994-95, we had 88 plants at that time and some/ most cross over to the other side but was still very strong . as far as I know it is pure with no other breeding other than its self .
 
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