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Roll up for the Monday update, starting with more pollen collection!

I noticed last week that the Sour G STS in the tent had developed a thrip infestation:

It hadn't been sprayed for pests since just before the STS spray started 43 days ago so bugs weren't a surprise. What was surprising was that no other plants have thrips, nor have I seen them in over a year!

Anyway, before I sprayed them I thought I would try one more shot at getting pollen, this batch cleaner than the last. So I didn't move it for 3 or 4 days, and then Saturday morning I tapped it over the foil and plucked off some easy-to-reach sacs, and put the results in the drying box. That night I dumped the contents directly into the 80 mesh sieve and brushed everything through onto the counter:

Here is what I collected:

Looks much cleaner than the last batch. I grabbed more silica balls and funneled it all into a tiny ziploc:

There are some black specks in there which I'm guessing are thrips that came off with the tapping. Off it went into the fridge!

I then sprayed the plant with 2:9 iso (no trichomes on this plant), and have been doing it twice a day for 3 days. Starting tomorrow I will just do it daily at lights out. No more pollen from this, just whatever self-seeding it did. It's on flip day 40.

Next up was attempting to do some cloning using sand and citrus leaves. @Carmen Ray posted a video here showing how to root lemon tree leaves in a pot of wet sand so I thought I would give it a go. It recommended river sand but I had construction sand on hand so I went with that. It didn't drain as well as I had hoped so I mixed in some perlite as well:

Lemon leaves, satsuma orange leaves, and two lavender cuttings. It's in total shade outside. We'll see!

Last for the weekend was thinning the Jack Herer 1.1 clone on flip day 21 yesterday (forgot to measure so I'll do that tomorrow).

Here is was before:

And after:

@Jon asked me for some pics of what to take off and when to stop taking off so I'll include some pics of that here. I will state up front that I did not thin this pre-flip the way I normally do because of timing issues, so this is not really the way I normally would be thinning post-stretch. Still, here it is:

This obviously comes off:

Another spot before:

And after:

Once I'm done working from below, I work from above.

Before:

And after:

Here is what came off just from that area alone:

And here are all the branches that came off (the little larfy bits were already binned):

The pH on the Jack Herer ProMix HP had drifted to 6.4 so I went to the 80/20 blend of nitrate/ammoniacal nitrogen to lower it for the rest of flower. I use that for two weeks worth of watering, and it takes 2 gallons every other day now.

The transplanted Summer grow look happy and they go back into full sun tomorrow. Pics then.

I hope you all had a great weekend! :cool:


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When I bought mine they were on a closeout for like $2 a seed. That was with a 20% off coupon for POTM and included shipping. So stands to reason that they'd be throwing them in as freebies. Mine weren't yielders but boy did they put a smile on your face. Sedentary relaxing bud. We call it Joker weed. My other buddy calls that type of high "everything is alright". Very mood lifting.
Very possible farside, very possible! Great review by the way...everything is alright sounds excellent about now.
 
Thanks for posting what you took off when cleaning up. Especially as a beginner, it's hard to get your head around taking off buds to make bigger buds. After a couple of harvests, though, its easier to see what will create nice buds and what will create larf. Off with the larf!

BTW, I also love that I had to look at the before and after several times to see what you took off. It was a very subtle difference, not a massacre :) It didn't look defoliated, just a little cleaner. Great job!
 
Roll up for the Monday update, starting with more pollen collection!

I noticed last week that the Sour G STS in the tent had developed a thrip infestation:

It hadn't been sprayed for pests since just before the STS spray started 43 days ago so bugs weren't a surprise. What was surprising was that no other plants have thrips, nor have I seen them in over a year!

Anyway, before I sprayed them I thought I would try one more shot at getting pollen, this batch cleaner than the last. So I didn't move it for 3 or 4 days, and then Saturday morning I tapped it over the foil and plucked off some easy-to-reach sacs, and put the results in the drying box. That night I dumped the contents directly into the 80 mesh sieve and brushed everything through onto the counter:

Here is what I collected:

Looks much cleaner than the last batch. I grabbed more silica balls and funneled it all into a tiny ziploc:

There are some black specks in there which I'm guessing are thrips that came off with the tapping. Off it went into the fridge!

I then sprayed the plants with 2:9 iso (no trichomes on this plant), and have been doing it twice a day for 3 days. Starting tomorrow I will just do it daily at lights out. No more pollen from this, just whatever self-seeding it did. It's on flip day 40.

Next up was attempting to do some cloning using sand and citrus leaves. @Carmen Ray posted a video here showing how to root lemon tree leaves in a pot of wet sand so I thought I would give it a go. It recommended river sand but I had construction sand on hand so I went with that. It didn't drain as well as I had hoped so I mixed in some perlite as well:

Lemon leaves, satsuma orange leaves, and two lavender cuttings. It's in total shade outside. We'll see!

Last for the weekend was thinning the Jack Herer 1.1 clone on flip day 21 yesterday (forgot to measure so I'll do that tomorrow).

Here is was before:

And after:

@Jon asked me for some pics of what to take off and when to stop taking off so I'll include some pics of that here. I will state up front that I did not thin this pre-flip the way I normally do because of timing issues, so this is not really the way I normally would be thinning post-stretch. Still, here it is:

This obviously comes off:

Another spot before:

And after:

Once I'm done working from below, I work from above.

Before:

And after:

Here is what came off just from that area alone:

And here are all the branches that came off (the little larfy bits were already binned):

The pH on the Jack Herer ProMix HP had drifted to 6.4 so I went to the 80/20 blend of nitrate/ammoniacal nitrogen to lower it for the rest of flower. I use that for two weeks worth of watering, and it takes 2 gallons every other day now.

The transplanted Summer grow look happy and they go back into full sun tomorrow. Pics then.

I hope you all had a great weekend! :cool:


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Very possible farside, very possible! Great review by the way...everything is alright sounds excellent about now.
Thanks so much Shed, I really appreciate that detailed demo even if it's not your usual thing. :thanks:
 
Good luck with the sand-perlite rooting mix Shed. I look forward to seeing the results. I hope you manage to get rid of those thrips! That's a lot of branches that came off the JH, wow... will you clone with some of them?
 
Thanks for posting what you took off when cleaning up. Especially as a beginner, it's hard to get your head around taking off buds to make bigger buds. After a couple of harvests, though, its easier to see what will create nice buds and what will create larf. Off with the larf!
BTW, I also love that I had to look at the before and after several times to see what you took off. It was a very subtle difference, not a massacre It didn't look defoliated, just a little cleaner. Great job!
I'm glad it made the process a little clearer BudMan! The pre-stretch thinning is where the massacre happens, and after stretch the flowers come off and almost all the fans stay on. I don't want my plants regrowing leaves in prime flowering time.
Thanks so much Shed, I really appreciate that detailed demo even if it's not your usual thing.
Hope it helps! I'll do the summer grow the regular way so if you're not in the middle of moving you'll get to see that happen.
Good luck with the sand-perlite rooting mix Shed. I look forward to seeing the results. I hope you manage to get rid of those thrips! That's a lot of branches that came off the JH, wow... will you clone with some of them?
Thanks Carmen! I'm sure the thrips are on their way out. Now that I can spray them with anything (since the plant is only for seeds) I'll hit them with neem as well after a week of iso/water. Little plants are easy to de-pestify. :rip:
 
Nice demo, Shed!

As I've said before, you are meticulous! :Rasta:
 
Nice demo, Shed!
As I've said before, you are meticulous!
Thanks GDB, but I think you're confusing me with Carcass. :cheesygrinsmiley:
Inspirational trimming Shed! Mine are getting ready for their first wave in a week or two.
Ooooh nice! I'm off to your pre stretch trimming link!
Edit: Oh yeah! you hit it hard! Yep inspirational!
LOL, thanks Otter! I have to be in control of these damn plants if they're going larflessly fit through the door. :thumb:
 
Thanks GDB, but I think you're confusing me with Carcass. :cheesygrinsmiley:
Not a stretch to do so. You two are cut from the same cloth, just with very different avenues for producing wonderful plants!

Carcass is a bit more subdued than you, but I attribute that to his age! :rofl:
 
after stretch the flowers come off and almost all the fans stay on.
Thanks, Shed-
Good to know, since I decided to forgo the pre-flip thinning this time, and actually, I'm kinda new at the defoliation thing- I think it really helped the last one though.
 
Lovely update Shed! The Sour G pollen collecting is excellent, and the JH is looking great, bad luck you got a thrip outbreak but great it's just the one and been dealt with.
Thanks Stunger! I'm not sure where these thrips came from unless they're so easy to kill that even my lackadaisical pest management outside was enough to keep them off the other plants. Nothing shares the tent so I doubt they'll spread. Outside it's just the usual aphids.
Thanks, Shed- Good to know, since I decided to forgo the pre-flip thinning this time, and actually, I'm kinda new at the defoliation thing- I think it really helped the last one though.
I do my pre-flip thin to drive the growth upwards before flowering. Every low leaf that comes off gets replaced by the plant on top, where I want it! After flip I want to leave as many fans on to provide maximum photosynthesis to grow flowers. And I certainly don't want the plant having to grow any more leaves...seems like misdirected energy after stretch.
 
And I think all soil is buffered in the 6.3-6.8 pH range to prevent micro-nutrient toxicity. They're absorbed more slowly at higher pH.
Yes I guess most of them. Although I'm having a bag of Canna's "Seed Mix" peat mix which is buffered to 5.7
Lol that was the biggest mistake to fill 3 gal pot with it.

Here is was before:
20220515_162722 JH before post-stretch thinning.jpg

20220515_162722 JH before post-stretch thinning.jpg

Jack Herer post stretch thinning
And after:
20220515_165929 JH after post-stretch thinning.jpg
Very fly and fresh hair cut! 2022 summah style
 
Highya ITS,

Everytime you do the larf removal thinning, I think I need to pay b etter attention. When it's time to trim, I never get to it. I'm hoping to change that this year. Thanks for the show! Happy Smokin'
 
Highya ITS,

Everytime you do the larf removal thinning, I think I need to pay b etter attention. When it's time to trim, I never get to it. I'm hoping to change that this year. Thanks for the show! Happy Smokin'
Sounds like me, but I swear next time it'll be different! :laugh:
 
Nice thinning/delarfing explanation. :thanks:

I get a lot of thrip damaged leaves, but can never seem to find the actual thrips - even using very high magnification. Do you ever see the thrips?
 
Quickie Tuesday update!

I forgot to mention that I took cuttings off the Sour G mother during thinning and stuck them in perlite to start a new mother while I wait for the seeds off the STS process:

I also measured the post-stretch Jack Herer 1.1 for @BeezLuiz' spreadsheet:

I'm calling that 39.5"!

And finally, here are the Trainwreck from @Weed Seeds Express and Purple Urkle on day 28, four days after transplant:

That's it for me today...so far so okay! :thumb:


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Yes I guess most of them. Although I'm having a bag of Canna's "Seed Mix" peat mix which is buffered to 5.7
Lol that was the biggest mistake to fill 3 gal pot with it.
Soil is pH'd higher because it contains micronutrients. They pH it higher to prevent the plant from taking up too much of anything creating toxicities. Peat is inert, so they pH it lower to allow for maximum micronute absorption from the synthetics we use.

ProMix HP is pH'd from 5.4-5.8 at the factory because it's peat. My 7 gallon pots are filled with it!
Very fly and fresh hair cut! 2022 summah style
Thanks...we'll see how painful the trimming is at harvest!
Everytime you do the larf removal thinning, I think I need to pay b etter attention. When it's time to trim, I never get to it. I'm hoping to change that this year. Thanks for the show!
Whatever time you don't spend trimming in late July is a lot more trimming you'll be doing in October. :cheesygrinsmiley:
Sounds like me, but I swear next time it'll be different!
Is this a New Year's resolution? Plenty of time for next year!
Nice thinning/delarfing explanation.
Thanks BL!
I get a lot of thrip damaged leaves, but can never seem to find the actual thrips - even using very high magnification. Do you ever see the thrips?
I actually could see a couple walking on top of the leaves. Thrips aren't microscopic like mites are, and they leave similar damage. Nebula Haze has a good collection of thrip pics so you can see them for scale (if I'm still allowed to link to her site).
I know its been hard to understand about the, not removing the leaves , Because when i was growing long time ago we were taught to take the leaves off in flower to pump energy to the buds ... But its just assbackwards Thanks again Shed
There are folks who still swear by stripping the plant in flower. Schwazzing I think it's called. I've never seen anyone run clones side by side to compare the yields though.
 
Quickie Tuesday update!

I forgot to mention that I took cuttings off the Sour G mother during thinning and stuck them in perlite to start a new mother while I wait for the seeds off the STS process:

I also measured the post-stretch Jack Herer 1.1 for @BeezLuiz' spreadsheet:

I'm calling that 39.5"!

And finally, here are the Trainwreck from @Weed Seeds Express and Purple Urkle on day 28, four days after transplant:

That's it for me today...so far so okay! :thumb:


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Soil is pH'd higher because it contains micronutrients. They pH it higher to prevent the plant from taking up too much of anything creating toxicities. Peat is inert, so they pH it lower to allow for maximum micronute absorption from the synthetics we use.

ProMix HP is pH'd from 5.4-5.8 at the factory because it's peat. My 7 gallon pots are filled with it!

Thanks...we'll see how painful the trimming is at harvest!

Whatever time you don't spend trimming in late July is a lot more trimming you'll be doing in October. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Is this a New Year's resolution? Plenty of time for next year!

Thanks BL!

I actually could see a couple walking on top of the leaves. Thrips aren't microscopic like mites are, and they leave similar damage. Nebula Haze has a good collection of thrip pics so you can see them for scale (if I'm still allowed to link to her site).

There are folks who still swear by stripping the plant in flower. Schwazzing I think it's called. I've never seen anyone run clones side by side to compare the yields though.
Damn those cuttings look spectacular!!! How many days in the perlite in this picture? Did it take them a few to get to looking this sweet? WOW. Small thing to be really impressed with I suppose, but damn. Oh yeah, the Jack buds are okay too. :rofl: :adore: :thumb:
 
I orphaned this morning's pics...they're here!
Damn those cuttings look spectacular!!! How many days in the perlite in this picture? Did it take them a few to get to looking this sweet? WOW. Small thing to be really impressed with I suppose, but damn. Oh yeah, the Jack buds are okay too.
Oof...I completely forgot to include the mother-trimming pics in yesterday's post! I took the cuttings Sunday, but cuttings in perlite look pretty much the same all the time.

Here are the before and after on the mother trim from Sunday:


Thanks Jon!
 
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