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Thanks as always Shed! Hi GDB, Felipe, and Maritimer! If you all are in on a feed, I know I'm gonna have to stop in and see what all the talks about! Thanks guys!Thanks GB! I'm sure some varieties are more drought tolerant than others based on where they originated. And I've certainly established that some have petioles shaped in a way that makes it darn hard to calculate wilt angle!
Howdy Krissi and to my perpetual journal! Luckily GDB just asked the same question about it so here's what I told him:
Any and all questions welcome, including ones comparing Terpinator to re-re-distilled Everclear.
I am now! Originally I thought what you thought:
Until Maritimer set me straight.
Here's my take on this topic:The angle between the center of the middle leaflet and the stem from which it originates was measured."
I'm sure some phenos offer greater drought resistance, but varieties originating in the tropics rarely experience drought and would be less likely to endure it for as long as one from an arid climate.I for one have been following along and can’t wait for the results! Makes sense to me so far. Except someone up there mentioned strain dependence, I gotta go more with pheno dependence. All regions in the world experience drought. Weed growing in the driest regions would just take longer to reallocate resources. Strong phenos would make for extra sticky, weak ones extra dead.
Of course! I should have remembered that.Yes.
The large sun leaves are exactly what Caplan uses in his diagram though.Please notice that large sun leaves are not utilized for our measurements.
This, without a diagram from Caplan, is the crux of the biscuit, and why gauging it is so difficult. Personally, I don't know where the center of the middle leaflet is.The angle between the center of the middle leaflet and the stem from which it originates was measured.
Nope!I really hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding.
It's a lovely group of folks here.Thanks as always Shed! Hi GDB, Felipe, and Maritimer! If you all are in on a feed, I know I'm gonna have to stop in and see what all the talks about! Thanks guys!
Thanks BL! Sitting on my hands thanks to you.First off, I love those trichome pictures! The trics are clouding up nicely.
Me too! I had trouble sleeping last night like I had just watched Poltergeist.The Sour G experiment is like watching a scary movie -- with my hands over my face. I'm watching it, but just through the slits between my fingers.
And I've come around to your way of thinking.Here's my take on this topic:
It's been a bit of a posting fury lately with this drought experiment going on. I'm glad you're up to date now, and I hope I can even tell the difference in the final product when it's all over!Damn It got 4 pages behine !! But have read it all and this will be very interesting to see at the end . I am thankful for shed having enough weed in the freeze and Growing to do the experiment / witch is pretty weird but i do get it as to stress the plant in to making more fuel to try and keep itself alive
I'll say it again Shed...beauuuutiful ChiquitaMorning folks and welcome to the Saturday wilt update!
Let's start with a pretty plant, so here is the Chiquita Banana from @Weed Seeds Express today on flip day 48:
Fall in Los Angeles (or a phosphorus deficiency)!
Moving on to the wilted Sour G, this morning on drought day 6 (watered on Sunday so I counted Monday as day 1):
I watered it this morning because a) I'm thinking that the measuring angles have been wrong all along and b) the sugar leaves were starting to die. I'll post another pic of it tonight to see what has recovered, but I'm pretty sure that very few fans will regain signs of life.
After reading in Caplan's paper what Maritimer quoted above ("The angle between the center of the middle leaflet and the stem from which it originates was measured.") I believe that Felipe and BL are drawing the diagrams correctly and that the top narrow angle I've been looking at is wrong. Caplan doesn't mention measuring the angle of the petiole and doesn't call it the Petiole Wilt Angle, so Felipe's drawing here and BL's above seem to be more accurate to Caplan's quote.
So we'll see how this finishes out together, but I'm thinking that three or four days would have been the maximum for this plant, and that is because it's grown outside rather than in a controlled environment. I also wonder if the plant would be able to go through all the resin-building in that short amount of time. Later I'll go back through the pics and see if I can see what day would have been closest.
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I'm sure some phenos offer greater drought resistance, but varieties originating in the tropics rarely experience drought and would be less likely to endure it for as long as one from an arid climate.
Of course! I should have remembered that.
The large sun leaves are exactly what Caplan uses in his diagram though.
This, without a diagram from Caplan, is the crux of the biscuit, and why gauging it is so difficult. Personally, I don't know where the center of the middle leaflet is.
Nope!
It's a lovely group of folks here.
Thanks BL! Sitting on my hands thanks to you.
Me too! I had trouble sleeping last night like I had just watched Poltergeist.
And I've come around to your way of thinking.
It's been a bit of a posting fury lately with this drought experiment going on. I'm glad you're up to date now, and I hope I can even tell the difference in the final product when it's all over!
Thanks Krissi! I'll never tire of hearing it.I'll say it again Shed...beauuuutiful Chiquita
Thank you Maritimer! I'm not sure we've nailed down exactly what to measure for the Leaf Wilt Angle (and I definitely prefer specificity!), but I am certain that attempting to get close to indoor drought times would have been fatal for this plant. I'm sure leaf temps in the 90-100º+ range and soil temps in the 80s were never part of the equation.Aye,
we be holdin our course steady, hoping your sails pull hard on the hemp.
for land lovers I said that Im watching and good luck.
you been a great mate, and yer crew was amazing.
let me know when yer up fer the next adventure.
going where no shed has gone before,
searching out new horizons.
Always ready for what's next you are!
I'll go with this:Fall in Los Angeles (or a phosphorus deficiency)!
The drought experiment has been fun to watch, especially the pics! By now I'm sure that poor plant is quite sour.Let's start with a pretty plant,
It's definitely better to watch than experience, that's for sure! I hope it's not too sour or it might start smelling like double H's cat piss Lemon auto.Hey, Shed!
Regarding your question about the C Banana:
I'll go with this:
The drought experiment has been fun to watch, especially the pics! By now I'm sure that poor plant is quite sour.
Thanks VG, anything looks good compared to the Sour G! And Iike Felipe said I too hope you're feeling better!Great job on the Chiquita. Real nice looking plant.
You're welcome here smarty-ass or nah, baby steps or grown-up ones.I wasn't even a smart-ass that time. Baby steps.
Yeah...what he said! ↑Hi VG! Hope you’re feeling better!