Gazoo
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OK But I suspect you should fasten your seat belt for a onslaught of questions, Not ready to throw in the towel yet
but next run will be in all plastic so I will make my decision then
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OK But I suspect you should fasten your seat belt for a onslaught of questions, Not ready to throw in the towel yet
but next run will be in all plastic so I will make my decision then
Gazoo
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areas where I've made errors with the kit.
-too heavy concentration/too frequent feedings
-not shaking/mixing kit ingredients enough
-cross contaminating
-not mixing soil correctly with needed kit ingredients at correct time
-too small pots
its not the kit..
I do believe there are some very experienced kit users seeing issues
who have not made any of those mistakes. Just sayin
areas where I've made errors with the kit.
-too heavy concentration/too frequent feedings
-not shaking/mixing kit ingredients enough
-cross contaminating
-not mixing soil correctly with needed kit ingredients at correct time
-too small pots
its not the kit..
If it were just one of us I might agree Ziggy, but at the moment there are 7 of us having essentially the same problem, so it either is the kit, or we're every one of us doing something terribly wrong, and we'd appreciate more than platitudes in response to the concern we all share.
Seven of us...... Quite frankly I'm getting tired of "it's your fault" as a response to concerns. I'd be happier with some answers. I have two bottles of CAT drench that I'm very leery of using, and it's not like I can grow with the kit without it.
Gazoo
Member
I Like you Sweets you have more BALLS then Me and could not agree more
It pisses people off sometimes, but I have no fear.
Gazoo
Member
oh, I grew many other herbs and vegetables, and flowers in same soil I grew the cannabis using kit ingredients. My kit stuff was from 2017 after April mostly in gallons.
is there a common genetics to the 1/2 doz?
is there a common genetics to the 1/2 doz?
one can grow well without CAT..
well To CAT or Not to CAT...that is the question...
I CAT..
I did. This was the apparent result.
Do you really find this acceptable?
We're fond of saying we don't grow them for the leaves, but let's be honest here. Leaves supply the power that fuels the plant cells. This kind of damage shouldn't be something we sit quietly by and tolerate.
Not sure what you mean by acceptable..
I think if it was the ingredients its likely more than 6-7 people would be experiencing issues.
Hopefully the problem isn't systemic with your other plants.
I think if it was the ingredients its likely more than 6-7 people would be experiencing issues.
Hopefully the problem isn't systemic with your other plants.
Sue
I still have some older Kit Cat I can spare if you need. and it does not involve Chance the Rapper (not having a TV you won't get that, but others should) it's a very annoying commercial to me
I still have some older Kit Cat I can spare if you need. and it does not involve Chance the Rapper (not having a TV you won't get that, but others should) it's a very annoying commercial to me
Bring it with you on Saturday please.
Ziggy, aside from this plant I'm growing the most beautiful and potent plants of my short career, thank you very much.
Gazoo
Member
Maybe its this type of sideways blame that keeps others from speaking up
I was hoping some honest feedback would be better received
I wasn't aware of this possibility. Can you elaborate, please?
overlord
Well-Known Member
I don't get it, the cat drench formula didn't change. Ge, Trans, and the snake oil are new formulas, not cat. How is everyone associating the problems to the cat drench?
It would be a lot more productive for everyone if we tried to figure out just what deficiency causes the odd rusty splotches. 
We've seen the burned edges and curling and fade before. I used to get that on a lot of my plants but I had hard water to start with, and I've just let mag deficiency ride. It's also not unusual for issues to show up around the time we do the Cat drenches. I always associated it with the drench, but it might also be something that shows up a few weeks into bloom, about the time the plants finish setting their buds.
I know from my own experience that the yellow crispy leaves can come from several things - too much light, too much spraying, salty soil, cold soil, etc. Also, Cat needs a supply of cationic minerals to work right. If the soil hasn't adsorbed enough, there won't be much to release, and you'll get abrupt starvation. The charge in the soil changes and the previous minerals aren't available.
This would actually be a good time to get out the rake and check some stuff.
Just to know, right? Some pH readings would be nice, for instance. These are deficiencies after all. I'd also be talking to people like Bobrown and CareStaker, who are living-soil freelancers and actually can diagnose stuff like this. Find that photo series that has all the deficiencies, etc.
It's a compound thing, I think. Something is getting in the way of another thing. The issue with the crispiness has been around for awhile. The blotches are severe and come from an internal problem, not foliars, etc. The delivery system has to be pretty screwed up to cause that pattern.
We've seen the burned edges and curling and fade before. I used to get that on a lot of my plants but I had hard water to start with, and I've just let mag deficiency ride. It's also not unusual for issues to show up around the time we do the Cat drenches. I always associated it with the drench, but it might also be something that shows up a few weeks into bloom, about the time the plants finish setting their buds.
I know from my own experience that the yellow crispy leaves can come from several things - too much light, too much spraying, salty soil, cold soil, etc. Also, Cat needs a supply of cationic minerals to work right. If the soil hasn't adsorbed enough, there won't be much to release, and you'll get abrupt starvation. The charge in the soil changes and the previous minerals aren't available.
This would actually be a good time to get out the rake and check some stuff.
Just to know, right? Some pH readings would be nice, for instance. These are deficiencies after all. I'd also be talking to people like Bobrown and CareStaker, who are living-soil freelancers and actually can diagnose stuff like this. Find that photo series that has all the deficiencies, etc.It's a compound thing, I think. Something is getting in the way of another thing. The issue with the crispiness has been around for awhile. The blotches are severe and come from an internal problem, not foliars, etc. The delivery system has to be pretty screwed up to cause that pattern.
Sue, thats great! - so it does sound like an isolated issue.
If you applied CAT to more than that plant at the same time and they're doing well, its reasonable to conclude that its not the ingredients.
as overlord mentioned, most of the Kit, i.e. CAT has remained the same.