Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing & Review

Re: Icemud's Grow 8.0 - New Intelligent-Gro LED - 2 x IGRO-228 LED - Testing And Revi

Happy FreeWeed Day Ice :thumb:
theres some info in an old book marijuana botany
pertaining to lat/lon temos times of year etc.
how accurate im not sure but theres info in there
they have a chart too
 
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Cronichemphog said:
Happy FreeWeed Day Ice :thumb:
theres some info in an old book marijuana botany
pertaining to lat/lon temos times of year etc.
how accurate im not sure but theres info in there
they have a chart too
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Wait, is that where I saw this? I have a couple of old books on growing from back in the early days that I never bother to look at anymore. I will go look and see if it is in any that I can find.

Sometimes my brain feels like a bag of cats. :goof:
 
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Hi all, i have been doing this for couple of years and am now trying to get into LEDs , Ice Mud how are the new intelligent grows working out for you? I have a store close by that sells them and am trying to decide between these and Topleds. My veg area is 4.5x5 and 7x5 and right now only have a 600 and 250 watt covering that area and work like a dog moving stuff around to keep all the plants healthy.
 
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GrizzWald said:
Sorry ice, I preempted that you were noticing quicker growth, and am wondering if you think the light has achieved this. Or is it more your environment,or soil getting better. I saw some high brix readings somewhere. I remember you saying you don't notice a difference in temps with led v hid, yet it's why a lot of people are turning to LEDs, trying to bring temps down. Strange.
Look after yourself man, eat a big garlicky spaghetti bolognese, helps me. And rest, proper sleep lol

I asked this somewhere else but I might aswell ask you. I'm 3/4 weeks away from harvest and we're getting early rain here, bit worried as I was a little late this year. I was thinking last night about mould and what kills it? Clove oil, wondering if it prevents it? Thinking might give one of my little one a going and seeing how far I can go without mould. Unless told otherwise, thanks :peace:
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Hey Griz....well I have to say the Intelligent-Gro LED are definitely vegging my plants very well, and fast. I would say slightly faster than the other reflector LED I have, but also I am using about double the wattage in LED, so its hard to say if one is better than the other. I have to say the growth rate of the INtelligent Gro LED is very similar to the HID lights I originally started with. I would say that my soil mixture has improved over the years and from grow to grow, but I think that the lights definitely are doing what they are supposed to.

I'm not sure where I said LED reduces temperature, but in my case this is not entirely true. LED's do not have a way to vent out hot air to a 6" ducting for quick evacuation so even though they run cooler (to the touch) I don't necessarily think that they reduce the temperature over HID, in fact with not only the Intelligent Gro but also my other brand LED, both have actually INCREASED the growing tent temperature over HID. So for my case, LED's may run cooler to the touch, but the lack of a way to vent the hot air out the tent, like air cooled hoods do, I think they really increased the temps in my growing area.

When i was running 1000w of HID in my tent, temps usually averaged between 75-80F
When running my "other brand LED's" in the same tent, only using about 600w, the temps on average are 78-82F
When running the Intelligent Gro lights in the same tent, using only around 400w, the temps on average are 80-85F

I would say the coolest running of the 3 was the HID lights.


As far as your mold issue, I never was successfully able to get rid of mine a few grows ago, but I've heard that greencure which is potassium bicarbonate is effective and GRAS. I would be careful with clove oil as I have found some shocking info about clove oil being a hazard to humans in small concentrations.
 
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Well there goes clove oil idea for my gals, thanks ice
 
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growingpains said:
Hi all, i have been doing this for couple of years and am now trying to get into LEDs , Ice Mud how are the new intelligent grows working out for you? I have a store close by that sells them and am trying to decide between these and Topleds. My veg area is 4.5x5 and 7x5 and right now only have a 600 and 250 watt covering that area and work like a dog moving stuff around to keep all the plants healthy.
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Its too early to really give a good statement regarding the Intelligent Gro lights since I have been using them for only about 3 weeks. I don't feel it is right to discuss other LED companies on this thread, since this grow is sponsored by Intelligent Gro, So I will not comment in here on any other manufacturers other than Intelligent Gro.

I would say to stick around and you will see how well these lights can do, but its too early to comment. I also would advise you to check the Intelligent Gro website because I can almost bet the lights are cheaper directly from the website vs a store, because generally stores have more overhead than ecommerce websites/warehouses, so in a store, generally those overhead costs are included in the product markup.
 
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Icemud said:
Hey Griz....well I have to say the Intelligent-Gro LED are definitely vegging my plants very well, and fast. I would say slightly faster than the other reflector LED I have, but also I am using about double the wattage in LED, so its hard to say if one is better than the other. I have to say the growth rate of the INtelligent Gro LED is very similar to the HID lights I originally started with. I would say that my soil mixture has improved over the years and from grow to grow, but I think that the lights definitely are doing what they are supposed to.

I'm not sure where I said LED reduces temperature, but in my case this is not entirely true. LED's do not have a way to vent out hot air to a 6" ducting for quick evacuation so even though they run cooler (to the touch) I don't necessarily think that they reduce the temperature over HID, in fact with not only the Intelligent Gro but also my other brand LED, both have actually INCREASED the growing tent temperature over HID. So for my case, LED's may run cooler to the touch, but the lack of a way to vent the hot air out the tent, like air cooled hoods do, I think they really increased the temps in my growing area.

When i was running 1000w of HID in my tent, temps usually averaged between 75-80F
When running my "other brand LED's" in the same tent, only using about 600w, the temps on average are 78-82F
When running the Intelligent Gro lights in the same tent, using only around 400w, the temps on average are 80-85F

I would say the coolest running of the 3 was the HID lights.


As far as your mold issue, I never was successfully able to get rid of mine a few grows ago, but I've heard that greencure which is potassium bicarbonate is effective and GRAS. I would be careful with clove oil as I have found some shocking info about clove oil being a hazard to humans in small concentrations.
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Here is some info on clove oil..

The Toxicity of Clove Oil | LIVESTRONG.COM
 
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This is why I love 420! You can think of shite, ask it and man you get info that you hadn't known. Thanks
 
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jaamzhow said:
So the LED panel has fans built into it that vent into the room, like a PC fan does. If there was a 6" rim around each fan you could attach flex duct to vent heat out of the room. That might be a thing you could suggest to the light designers.
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Maybe a hood or dome to vent, similar to a stove hood, that covers LED top or maybe just vent a couple of sides :)
 
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4 people who have been using their lights for a good week have not had this heat issue you describe. Our LEDs should be at 80 degree range. Their always is a little fluctuation and your might be a little on the higher side of it. Let me know if it becomes a problem and I will take care of it.
Thanks
 
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GrizzWald said:
Well there goes clove oil idea for my gals, thanks ice
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Mould is a major problem that does not go away easily and can always creep back once it originally appears.
I purchased a UV Hand Held Lamp Wand for getting rid of mold and then as a preventative measure thereafter. Was a bit pricy but.. was super easy as it literally just kills the mold right their on the spot.
 
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jaamzhow said:
So the LED panel has fans built into it that vent into the room, like a PC fan does. If there was a 6" rim around each fan you could attach flex duct to vent heat out of the room. That might be a thing you could suggest to the light designers.
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What a great idea!. I been running different scenarios as to what could be done while taking into consideration of the whoel business aspect of production/costs/manufacturing/size/weight for shipping etc.. You just gave me an idea that could very well get patent approved. Unfortunately...I have to resist my urges to tell you all.

..let me put it this way...I think I can make sometihng that I can include inside each Panel box that can be assemble and connected to the panel for those who would want to attach a 4" duct. I dont think it will need to be bigger considering the waty LED already works you would not need some big as 6" duct connected to an LED panel just one big enough to cause most of the air being drawn away to be able to be pulled out of the room through the vent.

As soon as I have it made and ready to be included for free with my Panels I will let you know. May take a few weeks.

Se...this is why I am so involved.....aside from having to put up with me be too chatty.....I get very value able shit...and I actually do something with that info instead of thinking.."cool concept".
Any LED company will tall you that part of the major design of an LED panel is focused on heat dissipation so that the LED chips never get too hot which allows them to last a really freaking long time!
If a panel gets too hot it is not good for the LEDs' the faster the Panel can get that heat energy into the air through heat sinks and disburse away and out of the panel. the better.
I do not think...making an ad on attachment that can connect to one of the LED fans exhaust is a bad. Far as I am concern it will only add to the life of the longevity of the electronics when implemented( that is..when my concept becomes a reality and is included with each panel)

REPS for that Jaamzshow.

Oh by the way..I will also look into one that can be used on any panel that has a flat backing and exhaust. but first to make one for myself.
 
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The only issue I am having in my head right now is during flowering time. it is one thing hooking it up to a vent but how you going to filter the air? usually air is drawn through a filter before going into the duct work and comes out basically filtered at the other end.
Most LED panels have vents all around the panel so adding a filter before the air is pulled through the exhaust on the panel is not an option.

Any thoughts.... I know their are a ton of different perspectives or ways to see something....what am I missing, here? SOmetihng is not right about just pulling air thorugh the led and shooting it out of the grow room..
 
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If you pull the air through vent from the room the inside of the unit will look like a 10 year old motherboard, a dust sweater over all the components. It would have to work like an HID cooltube, blowing filtered air over the unit, then that air exits out a duct to the outside.

So you gonna make a billion bucks off of licensing your patent, and all I get are Reps.
 
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Dr Bob said:
Good temp info Ice. That was one of my main thoughts on LED so I am a bit surprised. Thanks! Reps.
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I didn't expect it either, but all I have to do is turn up my fans higher than before, so no big deal. I didn't go LED for the heat reduction though, I did it to reduce my electrical use and save on my power bills which is much more of a benefit than heat reduction. I do want to say the increase is not drastic, just slightly over HID.
 
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jaamzhow said:
So the LED panel has fans built into it that vent into the room, like a PC fan does. If there was a 6" rim around each fan you could attach flex duct to vent heat out of the room. That might be a thing you could suggest to the light designers.
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I definitely think that would be a good design idea :)
 
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DankyDavid said:
4 people who have been using their lights for a good week have not had this heat issue you describe. Our LEDs should be at 80 degree range. Their always is a little fluctuation and your might be a little on the higher side of it. Let me know if it becomes a problem and I will take care of it.
Thanks
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Which part of the led would read 80F? just curious. When I did the temp readings this is what I got..

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Its definitely not a problem at all, but just a worthy mention that with LED, the warm air vents into the tent, with HID and a air cooled hood, a majority of the heat is vented right out of the tent.

Its not just Intelligent Gro lights, my other brand LED's also slightly raised the temps in the tent.
 
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