Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect
UPDATE time!!!! wooo hoo!
THE SEED PROJECT TENT (featuring budmaster GOD 8 and GOD 4):
Well everyone, today will be the last day for vegging my seed project and the fun is about to start. I changed my timers today to 12/12 from the Gas lantern routine I was running, and so tomorrow will be day 1 of flowering after the long night. I've read a few different sources for making seeds using colloidal silver and the process actually seems pretty simple.
Basically everything I read said to use colloidal silver with at least 30ppm or more, but not too strong either. It seems very easy to make your own, however I purchased some about a year or more ago and never used it, so its been sitting in my fridge since then, on the bottom shelf away from light, and its in a dark cobalt blue glass jar. I've read that light exposure can ruin colloidal silver so hopefully after being cool, dark and sealed for this time its still good. I guess we will find out
So the black cherry soda will be the plant that gets the colloidal silver treatments, and since I ran out of room I left it in a 3 gallon round pot. It makes it easy to removed to spray each day with CS and since I won't be keeping it for the full flowering cycle, everything should be good to go after about mid flowering.
So how it works is that for 21 days, or until you see male pollen sacks develop, you spray the plant you want to "turn male" making sure to hit each of the nodes. Some sources recommend doing this 2-3 times a day for the first week and then lower the frequency to just 1x daily, so I think I will go with 2, since its a nice even number.
What supposedly happens is the silver ions force the plant to create male pollen, but with female dominancy and traits, so the plants that get pollenated, should be female. So after the pollen forms, I've read different things and I would appreciate anyones suggestions who has successfully done this before. But after the pollen forms I've read that you can either just shake the plant in the room and the pollen will spread, or some sources recommend shaking the plant into a bag, and then use a small brush to apply the pollen. Some say to take the pollen in a bag, let it dry for a few days and then pollenate, and other sources didn't specify. I think I will just collect fresh pollen in a bag and brush it on as well as shake the plant...haha
should work, but if anyone has done this, please feel free to help guide me as this is my first go at making seeds (intentionally) haha
Once the female plants are pollinated then supposedly I can either choose to removed the "male plant" or leave it in there. Most likely I will leave it until I am sure that all plants were pollinated, and then I will discard of it carefully so I don't spread pollen all through my house.
Then the buds just develop as normal, but with seeds.
One important thing I read from every single source, was to make sure to spray the CS only on the plant you want to form pollen, for 2 reasons. The first reason was most important, and that you do NOT want to smoke any plants that have been sprayed with CS. I looked and looked for reasons as to why, since some people take colloidal silver for treating sickness and other human related remedy, so I'm not really sure why not to smoke the plant that has been sprayed or received overspray, but I guess better to be safe than sorry.
The second reason to be careful with spraying the CS, is that if it gets on the other plants, they too have a chance to create pollen, and then you won't know which plant pollenated another, which could either screw up your future seeds by not knowing the genetics, or it could be a fun treasure hunt too...LOL
So pretty much that is what I gathered about making seeds.... PLEASE.... If you have done this before and see something wrong in what I am doing, make it known
!!!! I would rather be helped by those that are experienced than just reading some sources with unknown growers...LOL.. I trust you guys/gals more..
Today I also gave the girls their last veg feeding which was just R/O water, botanicare pro gro, botanicare cal/mag plus with nothing else added.
I also sprayed the black cherry soda with CS today, and will do it before I go to bed tonight again, as they will be going through their first long night tomorrow
I also have still been running the Budmaster GOD's at just 1/2 power, both of the panels. I'm sure the GOD 8 could do just fine by itself in this tent, but I wanted a nice even canopy which is why I added the GOD 4. With both on full power, they are extremely intense and so I have only been running them at 1/2 power through veg. Even at like 3 1/2' high, at 1/2 power they were putting out between 150-450 micromoles of PAR light which was nearly ideal for veg, but with flowering being that the day is shorter, the PPFD should be at around 500+, optimally 800-1000. So I had 2 choices, One was to run both panels at full power, which then I would definitely do if harvest weight and quality were key on this grow, but since I'm producing seeds, the extra power usage isn't efficient by running them full. Therefor the other option was to run them at 1/2 power still, but move them much closer to the plants. I did this and moved them about 2' over the canopy, and the PPFD is right between 250-600 micromoles of PAR light which is perfect, as they will stretch in early flowering anyways, and the lights can be raised if needed. I did have to turn the GOD 4 on full, because of the way I have it hung, the back right plant was getting shaded considerably because of the beam angles and intensity on 1/2 power, so I turned it on full since really its only adding about 80w to the total draw.. whole panel only measured 170w or so on full
So that I think will be how I run the lights for the seed project, however I might change my mind and crank up the GOD 8 to full.
Well that is all for now on the Seed project: Here are the photos: (before I lowered the lights)
