Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spectrum

[drcannabi]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Awesome videos Icemud! So with all your testing what hanging distance are you going to employ for the GOD 8 panel?

 

[millertm]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Oh, also when you say COB, that's chip on board right. It's when drivers and LED are on same board. This setup dies not need wires to drive LED'S and without keeps heat down and voltage impedance low. It's a great setup. The closer the LED'S are to the driver means less heat loss due to transmission lines carrying voltage to LED'S.

Cheers

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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

So many options now. It used to be outdoor or hps your choice lol.

Haha, right I like that the industry is expanding as its bringing even more interest to the growing. More people getting involved, more technologies emerging lots of tech makes Icemud happy lol I wish I could do outdoor, I would love to have some 10' plants

 

[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Phillips has their 315 watt for $405 complete setup with hangers, timer, hood, ect.

Now I've been fighting a cold and got this.

Anybody know what temp works best and why?

Cheers

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Nice Vape, sorry to hear you have a cold. I'm not certain of any other uses for the temps besides tuning the temp to the cannabinoids or terpenes that you want to vaporize to target certain feelings or treat a specific ailment.



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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Awesome videos Icemud! So with all your testing what hanging distance are you going to employ for the GOD 8 panel?

Thanks Dr Cannabi!

Well I think that right now since the plants are small I will hang them as high as they get, which is about 4' to 5'. I added one of my GOD 4's into the tent as well so I can have a more even footprint and I currently am running both the GOD 8 and GOD 4 at 1/2 power. As the plants get larger and start filling in then I probably will lower the lights to the 24" to 36" range and run them full power when I flip to flowering. Since they currently will be used in my seed project I will not be growing the plants as tall and large as usual. I should be flipping them in about 2 weeks.

 

[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Oh, also when you say COB, that's chip on board right. It's when drivers and LED are on same board. This setup dies not need wires to drive LED'S and without keeps heat down and voltage impedance low. It's a great setup. The closer the LED'S are to the driver means less heat loss due to transmission lines carrying voltage to LED'S.

Cheers

Sent from my SPH-L720T using 420

Yea COB is Chip on Board and also known as LES or Light Emitting Surface.

Most of the LED enthusiasts that are up on the newest of the new are rocking COB lights, most of them build their own DIY.

Here is Budmasters COB chip, as well as mounted on the PCB board with lense, and then mounted with heatsink and fan attached.

 

[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Update time!!!


Vegging/Seed Project tent (Budmaster GOD panels):


The veg/Seed tent is doing really good and I am running the new budmaster GOD 8 in there as well as added 1 GOD 4. I wanted to even out the canopy since the GOD's are extremely bright, but the light seems to projects downwards very intensely, and doesn't spread a whole lot. So with the added GOD 4, the canopy will be very even and should be no shadowing I also am only running them right now at 1/2 power until the plants get much older and larger, which then I will flip to flowering as well as turn the lights on full blast

The plants themselves in this tent are doing very well, and recovering nicely from the topping I gave them about a week ago. I probably will give them about 2 more weeks and then flip to flowering and start the spraying with the CS. I have a watering getting ready for their feeding in a day or two which consists of r/o water, earth juice bloom and veg, some tandj biominerals and meta k.

Other than that I may be transplanting some of the plants into larger containers however a few will have to remain in the smaller ones as I wont' have room for 9 plants in larger pots in there right now.

The flowering tent: Budmaster COB's Day 22 from the flip


The flowering tent is coming along very nicely and all the plants look extremely happy lately I will also be feeding the same mix mentioned above to the girls in about 2 days as I am really trying to space their feedings out and let those roots stretch a lot in this early flowering stage. Other than that not much else to report on in this tent currently.

I am debating whether to use the Emerson Panel in this tent right now, or wait until this grow is finished. I really want to run this grow without the emerson, just so I can see how the COB's do by themselves, as I haven't run them on a full grow yet. I'm also anxious to run the Emerson though so we will see. I think I may hold off for now though just because I wouldn't have good results of the COB run with the Emerson light influencing the plants in any way. I may add the emerson to the seed project tent for now though, or at least once the plants hit flowering stage as It would be a good test of it and since I have run the GODs on a full cycle already, I don't mind using it with them we will see

 

[drcannabi]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Wow!

I see what you mean with the footprint of the COB. Very nice. Your girls are wanting for nothing. You are a very good grower. I'm excited about what's happening with LED, COB, and even traditional lighting is starting to dial in their spectrum. I noticed with my new BM GOD 8 panel that it is much more intense and has a wider footprint. This is just the eye test but I got nailed by the new light looking at it from an angle I have no problems with on the GOD 1200. The plants under this light are very happy.

Thanks again for what you do for this community!

 

[millertm]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Nice looking flowers. That was a quick turn from last harvest. Nice way to keep it going.

Cheers

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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Wow!

I see what you mean with the footprint of the COB. Very nice. Your girls are wanting for nothing. You are a very good grower. I'm excited about what's happening with LED, COB, and even traditional lighting is starting to dial in their spectrum. I noticed with my new BM GOD 8 panel that it is much more intense and has a wider footprint. This is just the eye test but I got nailed by the new light looking at it from an angle I have no problems with on the GOD 1200. The plants under this light are very happy.

Thanks again for what you do for this community!

Yeah the COB seems to slightly be a wider angle where the GODs are very intense yet focused I like both of the panels, and really would have to do a side by side to see any difference, if there is one. When I did the PAR readings for the GOD4 and COB4, they were virtually the same, with the GOD having slightly less spread and more intensity, and the COB being the opposite, slightly less intensity with better spread. But both very close

I can't wait to see how this COB tent turns out, after using them a full grow. Already at day 22 the plants are looking amazing so I can only imagine what they will look like a month and some from now

Thanks for the compliments Drcannabi! I still have a ton to learn, but each grow my plants grow, and so do I

 

[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Nice looking flowers. That was a quick turn from last harvest. Nice way to keep it going.

Cheers

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Thanks Millertm! It helps to have 2 tents going, where one can always be dedicated to veg, and the other to flowering. Since the flowering and veg cycles I run are each a little over 2 months, I can keep it going perpetual for the most part cuts the harvest time down by having 2 tents as I get about 4 harvests a year

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Phillips has their 315 watt for $405 complete setup with hangers, timer, hood, ect.

Now I've been fighting a cold and got this.

Anybody know what temp works best and why?

Cheers

Sent from my SPH-L720T using 420

360F will work best here, as it will vaporize the terpenes, and trichomes without burning up the actual herb, thus reducing the carbon monoxide, and other pollutants present within the plant matter. The fibers will toast, but not burn.

If you can find it, it would be better to get one that is limited to 280F, that will vaporize all the necessary essential oils, terpenes, and trichomes, without burning ANY of the fibrous material.

Both of these will reduce the "HACK" that is accompanied by burning herbs.

 

[millertm]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

360F will work best here, as it will vaporize the terpenes, and trichomes without burning up the actual herb, thus reducing the carbon monoxide, and other pollutants present within the plant matter. The fibers will toast, but not burn.

If you can find it, it would be better to get one that is limited to 280F, that will vaporize all the necessary essential oils, terpenes, and trichomes, without burning ANY of the fibrous material.

Both of these will reduce the "HACK" that is accompanied by burning herbs.

Thanks, 360 is just tast, 2nd setting works best, 420 is clean up, but flavor is shot at that temp. Thanks for taking the time to explain so well. I got a grinder at same store (local, go there all the time) and there are no more "G" pens. He had no idea how or why my pen had a G.

Cheers

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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Thanks, 360 is just tast, 2nd setting works best, 420 is clean up, but flavor is shot at that temp. Thanks for taking the time to explain so well. I got a grinder at same store (local, go there all the time) and there are no more "G" pens. He had no idea how or why my pen had a G.

Cheers

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I have a different brand vape, but also has adjustable settings. I usually start out around 300f, once I am not getting more vapor I usually crank it up to around 325 and hit it a few more times, then usually will finish around 350F. I usually don't go higher than that or I get that popcorn taste and smell.

 

[millertm]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

420 or my top setting does that too, but then I know I did not leave any behind.

Cheers

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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

So the thought of today is...


I was at work today and researching different drying, curing and processing methods for commercial scale grows, and was researching clean room practices to ensure no contaminiation, and prevention methods of molds, fungi and bacteria. What I found out that many of the "serious" contaminates that can be found on cannabis buds and edibles are present in soil normally. This even includes E coli, listeria and other bad contaminates. I also found information that cannabis is very good at "sucking up" heavy metals such as mercury, lead, silver, gold...etc....

So my thought was... for my personal garden. My quest has been to grow the best bud I can, without using any harmful pesticides or anything and the goal is to raise a healthy soil microlife. Now after knowing that most of these "bad contaminates" are found in normal soil, would hydroponics actually be a healthier alternative? Not only would you be ridding the soil which can host many of these bad things, but also using products like azomite which contains Lead, Thorium, Uranium, Iodine, mercury, arsenic, and probably other trace elements that aren't that great for us. So it seems that they can be uptaken by the plant, so should I no longer use Azomite? Should I consider switching to a hydro system since then nutrients and trace minerals are already bonded for immediate uptake, and not containing the other harmful ones?

Just a thought but definitely would love to hear others opinions on this. I know with all the high brix stuff that a lot of us have experimented with, its all about mineralizing the soil as well as creating a happy soil biota, so do the good aerobic bacterias rid the bad ones? Is there any cause for concern? I know a couple years ago I thought about the use of Bat guano and the possible contaminates that could be in it, since bats carry a lot of bad diseases, and couldn't really find an answer.

Anyhow its not a switch I probably will be doing anytime soon, but I may seek another product instead of azomite since I read the analysis and I don't like seeing radioactive materials in it, as well as lead, arsenic and mercury.

Another thought to add to this was I was making compost teas using my premixed soil. Could this be a bad idea being that again many of these pathogens are normal to soil, could spraying them on the buds and leaves just be asking for trouble? I usually don't do this mid to late flowering, but it still makes me think. Maybe I will have to start budwashing again, with H2O2 to make sure that the buds are ok.

I also read that you could put your buds in the oven at 300F for 5 minutes which should kill many mold spores and other bacterias, not all, but a good sum of them, without effecting the thc. Might be a good practice to consider using maybe UV-C light, a budwash with H2O2? Not that I have ever had any problems with my personal buds but just as an extra precaution? I know when I lived in a non legal state and I smoked a lot of black market herbs, I constantly was getting throat infections, and bronchitus, at least 2-3 times a year. Once I moved to cali and didn't have to smoke black market bud anymore, I rarely ever get those issues. Could there be a link?

 

[millertm]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Good thought topic. Since most despenary smoke found is all hydro or DWC for yeild. I've found soil carries more flavor then non-soil. Now the question is if you are going soil free for environmental reasons but you lose flavor or tast changes on you product. Will you stay environmentally clean or go back to flavor. Yields drove their choice.

Cheers

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[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

Good thought topic. Since most despenary smoke found is all hydro or DWC for yeild. I've found soil carries more flavor then non-soil. Now the question is if you are going soil free for environmental reasons but you lose flavor or tast changes on you product. Will you stay environmentally clean or go back to flavor. Yields drove their choice.

Cheers

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Yea that's the debate I am having. Hydro buds taste good and all, but for me the high just doesn't last like some good organic soil grown buds which seem to last much longer. Also the taste of organic soil grown is much better and complex in my opinion. So I'm wondering if the trade off is worth it.

Soft rock phosphate I just read is also contains a lot of lead and polonium, which both aren't good for us. The florida mined soft rock phosphate is much worse than other sources, but still makes me wonder.

Maybe I will use glacial rock dust instead or maybe zeolite if they analysis are better, and it looks like I wont be ordering soft rock phosphate from any florida mines... I wonder though how many of these "organic" things we use are actually not good for us when compared to mineral salts that I could use instead. Hmmmmm, more research I guess

 

[jandre2k3]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

For this and many other reasons, I decided to grow hydro this decade around. I can keep things sterile, and with the exception of a bad bug year, I've loved every minute of it. Although the initial DIY for hydro can be a little bit more "out of pocket," after initial setup, you're not having to buy new soil every go-round, because you have to re-compost last season's. You simply have naturally derived nutrients, in liquid form, the full set of "base 3-part" nutrients cost me about $35USD. I'm using Cutting Edge Solutions for over a year, now, and I really like how gentle it is as compared to other "salt" based nutrients. I have taken brand new clones, and put them directly into "General Purpose" strength nutrients, and root growth was not hurt at all. The entire line is chelated so as to be easily absorbed, and is very gentle to plants in general, even though it is a very strong mix of nutes. I have more problems with dropping my lights too soon, than nute burn, now.

Anyway, I just feel that hydro allows me to be more compact, and a HELLUVALOT cleaner in y grow space.






My 2 cents... maybe 3

 

[Icemud]

Re: Icemud LED Grow Featuring The All New Budmaster COB Technology - White Full Spect

For this and many other reasons, I decided to grow hydro this decade around. I can keep things sterile, and with the exception of a bad bug year, I've loved every minute of it. Although the initial DIY for hydro can be a little bit more "out of pocket," after initial setup, you're not having to buy new soil every go-round, because you have to re-compost last season's. You simply have naturally derived nutrients, in liquid form, the full set of "base 3-part" nutrients cost me about $35USD. I'm using Cutting Edge Solutions for over a year, now, and I really like how gentle it is as compared to other "salt" based nutrients. I have taken brand new clones, and put them directly into "General Purpose" strength nutrients, and root growth was not hurt at all. The entire line is chelated so as to be easily absorbed, and is very gentle to plants in general, even though it is a very strong mix of nutes. I have more problems with dropping my lights too soon, than nute burn, now.

Anyway, I just feel that hydro allows me to be more compact, and a HELLUVALOT cleaner in y grow space.






My 2 cents... maybe 3

Thanks for sharing Jandre! I definitely can see how hydro could be much cleaner, no dirt, no guanos, dust..etc... just a simple 3-5 part solution depending on what line of nutrients, a ppm and ph meter and its go time I'm definitely going to consider it for future, as it would be fun to learn and I would be a 100% noob with hydro, I know nothing other than it uses water and no soil...LOL I would love to do flood trays and rockwool cubes, but for my odd shaped tent I don't know how it really would work. I've also looked at deep water culture and it looks really easy as far as the setup.