Hypo Hippy's first indoor grow

[Tiger Balm]

A paper bag to control the pollen would be better - it would breathe.
Here is LabRat's Technique - a paper bag with a window in it. Be sure and tape the window very securely, you can see in my pic the pollen is about to escape. Lean the branch over so the pollen falls in the bag, not down the stem. The window is to see when pollen has been produced so it doesn't sit around and spoil.

Tiger Balm's First Grow - Soil, AMS free, Mandala Satori, and AMS Medijuana I have this linked to page 37 where you can see a picture.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

Man...I would love to employ your technique, but my grow-partner already cuts the dudes down much to my chagrin. Oh well, maybe next time. I really wanted to pass on some of Donald's genes and beautiful growth habit, but not this time. Thanks for the techniques my man.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

Ok folks, here is an update on where we are today. Watered and fed the plants with molasses and FF nutes. We LST'd Lucille again after letting her grow in pretty much an upright fashion for a while. Bent her down until the top is pretty much right below the other tallest side branch. I think it will work out pretty nice. Gladys is looking good except for the chlorosis she has had ever since she was broken damn near in two the day we transplanted the seedlings. I think it is vascular and not nutrient related...the yellowing improves as the leaves mature and is totally gone as soon as the leaf gets fully unfurled. Maybe you guys have seen this before.

Here is Lucille before here top got pulled down. She is really starting to put on a bunch of pistils and bud sites.

Here she is after the ropes were applied. She should be upturned and straighten out by this time tomorrow.

Here is Gladys. She is looking good except for the ever-present leaf curl and chlorosis. She looks and seems healthy otherwise. Lots of future bud sites. This was our first attempt at FIM'ing. I like it.

Another shot of Gladys. You can see what I mean about the chlorosis which almost makes her look variegated.

The new, un-crowded grow room You can see the four 150W cfls (2700K) bulbs in the background. We rotate the plants throughout the day.to maximize the additional light.

OUT!!!

 

[Woodsman]

Your LST is great.

The new growth is always more pale than the older foliage, but I think you are saying that yours are having a different issue?

 

[Hypo Hippy]

Yeah Wood,
This is the only plant that does this and it started looking funny after it recovered from the breakage. The plant doesn't appear to be suffering any, but it looks almost like a variegated cultivar. Kinda of strangely beautiful.

 

[Retired One]

Looking nice. Keep it up and the new avatar will be epic.

 

[TorturedSoul]

Hey - this is the plant with the eagle-claw leaves, the one that had a broken stem? Maybe the transport mechanism of the plant was damaged enough that it can uptake but not move excess nutrients downwards. Hmm...

 

[Hypo Hippy]

TS..that has been my hypothesis since the get-go. I actually have a degree in Horticulture and am fairly versed in botany and plant function (although I never worked in the field after college). I am almost certain it is a transport problem. I am talking about the variagation/chlorosis. The leaf curling was happening in three plants...all of them exhibiting the same phenoes as far as leaf size and shape. Zoom in on Gladys' leaves (on the photos in my photo journal) and you will see the chlorosis. The good news is that it doesn't seem to be hurting the plant any.

Southern.....yeah man that is certainly our goal. A nice fat classic white widow cola frosty with crystalline trichs would be SWEET!

 

[Hypo Hippy]

A.M. update fellas/ladies.....the girls are looking good this morning. A little worrisome this morning. We had severe thunderstorms starting at about 4 am and still going on now. Couple of power failures has got me a little nervous. Our high-dollar Lumatek ballast (a replacement for the first one that shit the bed three days into our grow) is plugged to a surge protector which should help, but doesn't prevent a hot-start for quick outages. I wish it had a feature that wouldn't cut back on until either manually cut on or after a cool-down period.

Lucille, the plant that we LSTd and pulled her head down yesterday has already turned six inches (toward the light) since yesterday afternoon. It is incredible how fast they can turn. For some reason, Lucille always wilts some after watering. Is that a common side effect? I have heard some guys say they have seen it, but it is kinda weird to me.

 

[Bandit420]

Hi Hypo! Glad to hear the ladies are doing good!
Sometimes my plants will wilt for a couple hours after water but it's nothing to worry about. I think it's just a little cold shock from cool water washing over the roots. Kinda like that feeling you get when you stick your toes in a cool pool.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

OB.....thanks for dropping in. We keep our water (usually about 5-6 gallons in the grow room to try to keep it at or near the same temp as the room. Kinda funky, but it is what it is. I am not too worried about it, but it is perplexing. She will usually straighten her act out after about a day. I can't imagine making a soil mix any more porous than our mix. We even added an additional 25% by volume additional perlite and two inches of pea gravel at the bottom of the 5 gal buckets. Strange. You may still be right about the cold shock or shock from the nutes or something. Scratching head.......

 

[Bandit420]

Do you use FF Tiger Bloom in your nutes? Sometimes if I get aggressive with that stuff it can cause a little wilt. I've burned a few too many plants now I and rarely go over 2 tsp per gallon. My usual feeding is 2 full shot glasses of big bloom, 1 tsp of Tiger bloom and 1 tsp of grow big per gallon.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

OB...we don't use Tiger Bloom (cause we couldn't get it here and bought a Happy Frog product that the guy at a nursery in New Orleans convinced me was a suitable alternative..it is 0-5-0 bat guano) Our typical nute regimen at this point of flowering is 1 Tbs of Happy Frog, 1/2 tsp of Open Sesame, 2 Tbs of Big Bloom, two drops of Superthrive, and a Tbs of molasses per gallon. If the plants look a little needy for nitrogen, we will add 1 Tbs of organic fertilizer that is 8-0-0 and is derived from sugarbeet molasses or 1 Tbs of Grow Big.

 

[Dee House]

OB...we don't use Tiger Bloom (cause we couldn't get it here and bought a Happy Frog product that the guy at a nursery in New Orleans convinced me was a suitable alternative..it is 0-5-0 bat guano) Our typical nute regimen at this point of flowering is 1 Tbs of Happy Frog, 1/2 tsp of Open Sesame, 2 Tbs of Big Bloom, two drops of Superthrive, and a Tbs of molasses per gallon. If the plants look a little needy for nitrogen, we will add 1 Tbs of organic fertilizer that is 8-0-0 and is derived from sugarbeet molasses or 1 Tbs of Grow Big.

how often do u water or feed

 

[Hypo Hippy]

Water every 3-4 days as we feel is needed......feed every other watering, molasses everytime.

 

[Tiger Balm]

hydro - there is an attachment that prevents a hot start - i can't find an example right now, but i have seen something in the hydro catalogues. like worms way

 

[TorturedSoul]

There are always battery backup devices.

 

[3lions]

Ooooh battery back ups. Good reminder. We have power trips and surges etc alll the time out here in Spain and I really need to go out and invest in a battery back up for the light.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

Thanks for the helpful hints guys...I will look around and see what's out there. Losing the first ballast made me a little gunshy. Thankfully we had other options, but I can't help but feel like our plants would be even bigger and more robust had they spent the entire time under the MH vegging.

 

[Dee House]

Water every 3-4 days as we feel is needed......feed every other watering, molasses everytime.

i hear ya on that lol..thats basically the way i do it .