How To Make Concentrated Cannabis Oil

C Sprite said:
Hi cajun...

I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's trip to the ICU. I'm hoping that she is doing better by now. My prayers are with you both. Stay strong and keep using the oil. I know that you must be sick with worry, but now is not the time to neglect yourself. It is almost always harder on the caregiver than the one who is sick, so you need to keep your reserves up.

Hello to the Master of the Sacred Oil (420 Motoco)...

Thanks for reviewing booster doses for me. It would be nice if my pain level was 0-2 after walking/exercise, but that is not the case, at least not so far. However, I have noticed that my pain level does get down to zero when I am laying down. It didn't use to be that way...it was usually 4-5, even with taking my pain meds. I think that I will have to get better CBD flowers if I'm going to get better pain control. I used Cannatonic this last time as that was all I could find.

Since I will start growing very soon, I need to find some good CBD seeds or clones. I've checked what seeds I have, and found one from RQS called "Painkiller XL". It is supposed to be high in CBDs. Do you or anyone else know anything about that particular strain? I already have a couple of Blue Dream clones on order that will be ready for me next week. Should I try germinating 1 or 2 seeds of the Painkiller XL and then if successful, try growing them alongside the Blue Dream in my new hydro system? My tent is only 2' x 4', so I'm thinking that I probably shouldn't grow more than 3 (maybe 4) plants at a time. Then I also wonder about growing 2 different strains at the same time in the same reservoir as a newbie. All advice is welcome.
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Hi C Sprite (our most promising upcoming 'oilhead', lol). All CBD strains grown correctly are great. I use strictly 'Harlequin' now. It took two years to get it grown correctly ( a 12 week flower). Your exactly correct, you need a CBD strain grown correctly. Read different strain reviews. I read a lot on Harlequin, but only one review made a mention; 'the magic happens with a 12 week flower'. How come I don't change strains? Mixed with Blue Dream (70-30 sativa dominant) harvested a tad past peak THC blends blends perfectly with full term Harlequin. Harlequin (75/25 Sativa dominant) not grown full term makes the daytime oil 'racy'. Harlequin grown full term (max CBDs) mixed with Blue Dream is an unbelievable daytime oil that keeps you very alert, positive attitude and your feel absolutely calm and the worst pain I've seen is down to 0 once it is fully seated in your system (3-5 days). Remember when you do get your oil ( flowers grown correctly), make sure you allow this time to push out the old to get a 'true' read on oil. All in the grow. Elite growers that know how to grow their strains for the concentrate saves 'thousands' of lives' because it all starts with the flowers. Grow the hard ones that you don't see on the market in HIGH grade form. A high CBD strain and as close to pure Indica you can find. The high THC strains are a dime a dozen, but Blue Dreams is one of those that is a true cut above most. Not just my opinion but many friends that use this blend. By now your pain level should be down to 0. Also make sure you take a little booster while your pain is happening during physical exertion, remember, not to much to soon. Its been awhile. Baby steps. Your doing great! Just remember you didn't get their overnight and also keep in mind, your mending. Hope this helps. Also I grew Harlequin and Blue Dream together, just harvested the Blue Dream one week earlier than the Harlequin.
 
Hi Folks,

I wanted to post a few pictures before I processed these to oil. A worthy mention; it took over two years to get elite growers to grow my daytime oil blend. Blue Dream at peak THC (no problem there), Harlequin took two years for them to take it full term (a 12 week flower). And Indica to be at least 95% dominant. Basically I have them grow the above strains mentioned and Master Kush for Indica. On the norm I would get the highest Sativa dominant, highest Indica dominant and for me Harlequin (because its available and blends excellent with the 70/30 cut of Blue Dream. When strains are grown consistently like I get now, the blends I use for the concentrate are amazing for what they do. I'm showing these pictures and giving this intell simply because people who do not have time to experiment due to health issues that need addressing now can have a good idea what to look for. These are not in your area? Still research these strains so you can get something similar. Peak THC Sativa dominant, full term CBD strain and full term Indica promotes the fastest results/heals. The hardest part for people is to get an concentrate with the proper blends. If for example your in stage 4 cancer but still have to maintain a job. You cannot go to work on a heavy dominant Indica (you can, not recommended) and causes one to dwell on their illness and become heavily depressed. It is important to understand how the daytime blend and the nighttime blend works on everything as a whole. Properly done you have the correct amount of Sativa and what it does with the correct amount of Indica and what it does. Of course a high CBD strain and what it does. For example if I am using the 70/30 cut of Blue Dream for daytime oil and blend it with full term Harlequin (75% sativa dominant) and it is not grown full term then it turns the daytime into a race horse. But because the Harlequin is grown full term it gives the blend of Blue Dream and Harlequin where your mind is alert (active) but your body with high CBD's are relaxed. Hands down the best blend for daytime oil. Of course there are plenty of strains and I have used many many different ones. But all my local friends beg for this daytime blend (long time friends who have major aliments). It is so important to have a good potent blend to heal with and this daytime blend is exceptional and covers from A-Z on aliments. For serious issues such as cancer, just more is required. A final thought; when you do get quality flowers like these less oil is needed for whatever your needs are.
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An ounce of Harlequin, Harlequin flowers & lastly Blue Dream in the mixing pitcher. Awesome medicinal flowers and a superb daytime blend. Cannot afford it? Get together with friends and share the cost. Bigger volume, bigger discounts. Find elite growers, they might be next door? In a group the combo's are endless what you can achieve. More brains, more sources. Elite growers can get bored after years of the same o same o, they LOVE helping out the ill. Elite growers have no idea how many lives they can save growing medicinal. Learn the oil and how it works. Understand how the strains work when converted into an oil concentrate. No good growers, no good meds. In healing it all starts with the flowers.
 
cajuncelt said:
Book time bro... just saying.
Time for the next step.
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Already on it, been reading my arse off learning all the scientific/medical terminology. Is that what you mean? If you mean put a book together I wish I could find the time but it is almost all 'caretaking'. Same with Mo. Don't know how we ended up with the hardest thing to do, its not for everyone, but somehow we keep chugging along. Piss ass broke and need money but just cannot stop helping the ill. Probably need to see a shrink? lol. Life might be calling soon, do you have an extra 'shopping' cart? Seriously. Oh and guess what? We don't spell your name wrong, its spellcheck, lol. Cajunbro :)

Funny you would say that but I was thinking the same thing about you. All the scientific/medical knowledge you have, all the parts of the puzzle are there now. Everyday you must be thinking of another part of the puzzle. Two minds are better than one compadre. Hint hint.

I hope your wife is doing better Brother. We should chat soon, catch up. Mo and I think of you guys often Brother.
 
Just a quick question in relation to grow length as I'm currently in the growing phase of making the medicine. I have the following strains growing:

Sativa dominant (S 70 / I 30):
Sleestack Skunk (8-9 weeks flowering)
Amnesia (9-12 weeks flowering)

Indica dominant (I 70-80 / S 20-30)
Vanilla Kush (9-10 weeks flowering)
Money Maker (8-9 weeks flowering)

Plus my CBD strains (which are mainly indica):
CBD Blue Shark (8-9 weeks flowering)
CDB Critical Cure (8-9 weeks flowering)

Is my goal just to grow these to their full term? I have a small microscope to see the trichomes change colour and am trying to harvest when 50% are amber.

Is our harvesting regime the same as the recreational users on this site (colour change of trichomes)? Just want to make sure that I harvest all of this beautiful medicine at the most medical time.

Thanks for all of your help and info.
 
Hello everyone. I am so sorry that I have been absent for some time now. Everything is fine, I have just beem super busy. Congrats Motoco on your MOTY win. You and MO truely deserve that. Cajun, I am so very sorry to hear about your wife. Sending all my postivie thoughts your way for a speedy and full recovery for her. I am not completely caught up on this or any other thread so I am sorry if I left someone out. Happy Sunday to you all and hope you all are safe.
Take care
:peace:
fsc
 
SAMtheAPman said:
Just a quick question in relation to grow length as I'm currently in the growing phase of making the medicine. I have the following strains growing:

Sativa dominant (S 70 / I 30):
Sleestack Skunk (8-9 weeks flowering)
Amnesia (9-12 weeks flowering)

Indica dominant (I 70-80 / S 20-30)
Vanilla Kush (9-10 weeks flowering)
Money Maker (8-9 weeks flowering)

Plus my CBD strains (which are mainly indica):
CBD Blue Shark (8-9 weeks flowering)
CDB Critical Cure (8-9 weeks flowering)

Is my goal just to grow these to their full term? I have a small microscope to see the trichomes change colour and am trying to harvest when 50% are amber.

Is our harvesting regime the same as the recreational users on this site (colour change of trichomes)? Just want to make sure that I harvest all of this beautiful medicine at the most medical time.

Thanks for all of your help and info.
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Hi Sam,

Great question Brother. Harvesting times are different than for the recreational users. Simply because everything is grown for 'peak' THC in most cases.

Your strain selection is very good except perhaps the Indica and we will get to that in a minute. Your Sativa's are perfect at a 70/30 sativa dominant.

I don't know each characteristics of your strains but no matter. Here is a simple breakdown.
Daytime oil; Sativa dominant strains; harvest at 'peak' THC. Purpose: Main healing agent.
CBD strains; Grown full term to maximize CBD's. To be blended with your daytime strain. Because your CBD strains are Indica dominant you might want to make an adjustment on your daytime blend. 3-1 ratio sativa/CBD. 3 ounces to one ounce of CBD. Some adjustments still might be needed but we can cross that bridge then.
I don't see an Indica dominant that is 90-100% for sleep but if you grow your CBD full term as mentioned it can double as a nighttime.

Hope this answered your questions, if not ask away.

Motoco
 
Thank you fsc and cajunbro! Much appreciated to be sure! Nice to see you both back around. I miss your activity but understand 'life' is a priority. Much love to you two!
 
Going in to hospital Tuesday. Cancers not done with me yet. Round 4?
I've a new & massive in large colon. This might be the one that gets ol Cajun.
Keep up the fight everyone.
 
420 Motoco said:
Daytime oil; Sativa dominant strains; harvest at 'peak' THC. Purpose: Main healing agent.
CBD strains; Grown full term to maximize CBD's.
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Thanks Motoco. How will I know when the sativas have reached "peak THC"? Is this to do with the trichomes changing colour? I read that the magic happens in your Harlequin at 12 weeks. Should I try this for the Amnesia, as it can also have a flowering time this long?

Growing the CDB strains to full term is easy enough - just follow the number of weeks for flowering listed in my previous post?

And then the indicas - should I push these a little past their flowering time to induce more of a "couch lock" effect and hopefully help with sleep more?

Only the CBD strains were "selected" for medicine. Originally I had just seen Rick Simpson's information of using a pound of high quality bud - so I was just trying to grow a pound. But since finding this thread I was made aware of the different oil to use during the day and night and just got lucky that I have planted both sativas and indicas.
 
Your welcome. It varies from strain to strain when harvesting peak THC. On the norm it is the earliest week. Keep in mind any setbacks in the grow during flowering adds a week. Some strains do not give a normal read like others as far as 'trichomes colors go. You also can get a false read and harvest too early (see the trichomes start turning milky, only to go clear again). I would recommend if you haven't already, get a good grow book ( I really liked 'Growing Elite Marijuana') as it gave a more up to date modern approach as well as some old school ideas. Indoor Hydro, outdoor and everything in between. Lots of links he updates, seed banks. Lots of pictures when things go south. I am still reading it after using it for 3 years (now I'm starting to relate on the job training with reading). I have learned quite a bit but it takes 'time in' as a hands on grower to get a read on the 'ladies'. There are 'elite' growers in the grow forums by just looking at pictures they can tell you what is going on. Most go in the wrong direction before going in the right direction. I consider myself lucky to have grown this good so far (only thing that saved my butt was at the first sign of trouble I double flushed with clean water, added new water/nuits via ebb & flow). The CBD strain I use is Harlequin which is a Sativa dominant 75/25 and Sativas have a longer flower time. Scourer your strains on different review forums and see if you can pick up an indicator. Your Amnesia strain should be harvested at nine weeks if all goes well. Remember Peak THC on you Sativa dominant strain. Only thing you want to focus on with your Sativa dominant strain is the highest THC possible 20+%. Again to clarify; my CBD strain Harlequin a Sativa dominant went to 12 weeks to maximize max CBD's. Take your Indica dominant CBD strains to full term also, which is 9 weeks full term. Your Indica dominant strains will be 10 weeks on the Vanilla Kush, Money Maker 9 weeks. If the Indica was a 95% dominant for example you could harvest earlier because it is already couch-lock. Again you want your Indica grown full term because it is only 80% dominant so you want full term for max couch-lock. Otherwise your wheels keep running at night. Your luck could of been on purpose, lol. Glad you found us here. If I missed anything, please ask. Its important to get as much right out of the gate. Keep in mind I am not a 'pro' grower. I am well versed in blending oils and using the concentrate (at least in my mind, lol).

Best,
Motoco

SAMtheAPman said:
Thanks Motoco. How will I know when the sativas have reached "peak THC"? Is this to do with the trichomes changing colour? I read that the magic happens in your Harlequin at 12 weeks. Should I try this for the Amnesia, as it can also have a flowering time this long?

Growing the CDB strains to full term is easy enough - just follow the number of weeks for flowering listed in my previous post?

And then the indicas - should I push these a little past their flowering time to induce more of a "couch lock" effect and hopefully help with sleep more?

Only the CBD strains were "selected" for medicine. Originally I had just seen Rick Simpson's information of using a pound of high quality bud - so I was just trying to grow a pound. But since finding this thread I was made aware of the different oil to use during the day and night and just got lucky that I have planted both sativas and indicas.
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cajuncelt said:
Going in to hospital Tuesday. Cancers not done with me yet. Round 4?
I've a new & massive in large colon. This might be the one that gets ol Cajun.
Keep up the fight everyone.
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This news is not what I wanted to hear. We are still fighting on this end. You keep up the fight as well. Strongest possile vibes sent your way.
Love ya
fsc
 
420 Motoco said:
Thank you fsc and cajunbro! Much appreciated to be sure! Nice to see you both back around. I miss your activity but understand 'life' is a priority. Much love to you two!
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Sorry I have not been on much. I just am so very busy right now. And, I am also studing up on organic growing. So making a lot of changes there. It takes a lot of research and note taking. I should get one of those books you mentioned in an earlier post. I love books. There are so much easier than getting info from the net. But I don't think I can get on at my local library. haha I will be putting my first 2 CBD plants into flower soon. Yay!!!
 
Thanks for all of that detailed information Motoco. Ive started reading up more about correct harvest times and how to determine maturity. Because this is my first grow I can't just "know" like many of the experienced growers. Looks like I will have to rely on a combination of weeks in flower and trichome colour. Seems to be a relatively good way to work it out.

I'm sure I'll be back for some more questions once the grow is finished.... Thanks again :thumb:
 
SAMtheAPman said:
Thanks for all of that detailed information Motoco. Ive started reading up more about correct harvest times and how to determine maturity. Because this is my first grow I can't just "know" like many of the experienced growers. Looks like I will have to rely on a combination of weeks in flower and trichome colour. Seems to be a relatively good way to work it out.

I'm sure I'll be back for some more questions once the grow is finished.... Thanks again :thumb:
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I wish we could just know, lol. It will be fun. You got it, combination of weeks of flower and the trichomes. MJ has some of the prettiest flowers in the world in my opinion. I'm thinking of starting a MJ photo gallery in the house, flashback to the 60's :thumb:

Best of luck Sam!
 
fghtsmallcell said:
Sorry I have not been on much. I just am so very busy right now. And, I am also studing up on organic growing. So making a lot of changes there. It takes a lot of research and note taking. I should get one of those books you mentioned in an earlier post. I love books. There are so much easier than getting info from the net. But I don't think I can get on at my local library. haha I will be putting my first 2 CBD plants into flower soon. Yay!!!
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Hi fsc, how great is daytime oil? lol Mrs BusyBee. The book I mentioned is an ebook, would rather have a hardback but wanted to mention also he has the recipes for making your own nuits also. fsc made a funny! Local library, you might be surprised, lol. Could you imagine the gossip? LMAO Good luck on the CBD strains, which one's did you get? Say hi to Red from Mo and I. How are you doing fsc? Update please.
Grow the CBD's full term for max CBDs but make sure its blended with a stout Sativa dominant, can't wait for you guys to try it. You are a grinder fsc, never give up and you kick ass!
 
SAMtheAPman said:
Thanks for all of that detailed information Motoco. Ive started reading up more about correct harvest times and how to determine maturity. Because this is my first grow I can't just "know" like many of the experienced growers. Looks like I will have to rely on a combination of weeks in flower and trichome colour. Seems to be a relatively good way to work it out.

I'm sure I'll be back for some more questions once the grow is finished.... Thanks again :thumb:
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As a new grower, I'm sure you feel a little overwhelmed right now. :Namaste:
You will learn to read your ladies with experience. Try to learn form others' mistakes as much as possible, but just plan to learn from any you make. These forums are a great resource, but don't let yourself get worried about doing anything 'wrong'. Let your ladies tell you if they are happy. They will. :)

My one piece of advice to any new grower is this:
Know why you do everything you do to your plants.



And Motoco... that's why I love hydro/E&F. If you see a problem, a flush and res change will usually show signs of improvement within 24 hours. :MoreNutes:
 
Hiker said:
As a new grower, I'm sure you feel a little overwhelmed right now. :Namaste:
You will learn to read your ladies with experience. Try to learn form others' mistakes as much as possible, but just plan to learn from any you make. These forums are a great resource, but don't let yourself get worried about doing anything 'wrong'. Let your ladies tell you if they are happy. They will. :)

My one piece of advice to any new grower is this:
Know why you do everything you do to your plants.



And Motoco... that's why I love hydro/E&F. If you see a problem, a flush and res change will usually show signs of improvement within 24 hours. :MoreNutes:
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Roger that Hiker. Some E&F's are getting bigger buckets now also. Last grow of Sour Diesel I had to left the buckets up 4 times as the roots looked like a frisbee and going up the fill/drain line :). I have to get in the grow forums. My Gavita Pro's grow lights are bankrupting my arse. All the growers I know in the area are 'anti' LED whether they just keep going how they have been or they haven't checked out the advancements/improvements? Got a licence for 99 gals but only have room for 36 in the room I have now. Great advice to Sam.
 
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