Amazing photo's by the way Doc...definitely you are a capomaestro of High brix growing!
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Hey Ice!
I'm also curious about the tests and there will be some cuts of my lemon paki growing in hydro I can get some shots of. It will be a sight to behold for sure.
I do believe that the terpene profile is different with high brix. It smells different, tastes and feels different. I can only speculate what the
various active ingredients work out to be. Like I've said before, perhaps the flowers are better suited for our nllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeds growing in other ways? We'll learn something for sure.
I did test a small bud and a couple leaves off my hydro frend's best plant and brix was 15, which is very good. His healthiest plants had the highest brix, as do mine.
HappyGrowmore
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What line of nutrients is your friend running in hydro?
I have done a lot of reading in your current and past journals about high brix and was wondering what reduction formula your using for the sprays and drenches since everything high brix seems to be geared towards 1000sqft ?
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His base nutes are GH. Along with that are products from Floranova, Canna, Botanicare and one or two others. I'm not really sure. He looks at things completely different than me. I look at plants and thing specific elements, while he looks at plants and sees products that need to be added or subtracted.
For example, I might see a magnesium deficiency. But he'll see a Cal/Mag deficiency, meaning the product, not the element. I'll see a situation with nute burn from too much nitrogen, and he'll see that he needs to cut back on "grow" by 1/3 for the next week. It's hard to explain, but basically he has zero education and mad experience so he's learned to grow like a wizard with products and has very little understanding past how to use the products.....but good lord does he know how to use those products!
I use 1oz amaze and 1/2 oz PGR per quart of water. The Brixblaster mixes at 1 oz per quart.
Indoor container gardening is definitely different than outdoors on the farm, the main difference being you must feed more often indoors, because things leech out the bottom of the pot!
Hey Doc.
My current cycle is in your Promix+humus+worm+6-5-3+azomite+rock-n-chicken Mix.
I am some where around day 30 bloom so I need to start thinking about the next cycle.
I do plan to recycle the soil, but I will need to start from scratch again so I can have 1 batch of soil cooking while the other is still in cycle.
I need about 2 bails of Promix per cycle.
Once I harvest the current cycle I can un-pot the soil, get a soil sample, order amendments, and let it cook.
The amendments for the used soil should work with the next round of used soil as well. But after that I would think I need to get a new soil sample and a new batch of amendments.
My concern is if amendments come in 80 pound batches and I will be using at most 2-4 pounds of it that could add up to a lot of waste.
Your thoughts?
Here are the specs on my current mix:
5gal Promi XP
1gal humus
2.5 pounds worm cast
1/2 cup 6-5-3 CaC03,Soft Rock Phosphate(granulated),Gypsum(granulated)
1/4 cup Azomite
1/2 cup Chick Magic
Chick Magic
5% nitrogen
3% phosphate
2% soluble potash
0% sulfur
Natures Own
Bloomit,amaze,PGR
My current cycle is in your Promix+humus+worm+6-5-3+azomite+rock-n-chicken Mix.
I am some where around day 30 bloom so I need to start thinking about the next cycle.
I do plan to recycle the soil, but I will need to start from scratch again so I can have 1 batch of soil cooking while the other is still in cycle.
I need about 2 bails of Promix per cycle.
Once I harvest the current cycle I can un-pot the soil, get a soil sample, order amendments, and let it cook.
The amendments for the used soil should work with the next round of used soil as well. But after that I would think I need to get a new soil sample and a new batch of amendments.
My concern is if amendments come in 80 pound batches and I will be using at most 2-4 pounds of it that could add up to a lot of waste.
Your thoughts?
Here are the specs on my current mix:
5gal Promi XP
1gal humus
2.5 pounds worm cast
1/2 cup 6-5-3 CaC03,Soft Rock Phosphate(granulated),Gypsum(granulated)
1/4 cup Azomite
1/2 cup Chick Magic
Chick Magic
5% nitrogen
3% phosphate
2% soluble potash
0% sulfur
Natures Own
Bloomit,amaze,PGR
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Yes, there is a lot left over from the 83 pounds of amendment! After this current run, I'll evaluate whether I think the mix is working properly and I'll start providing it in kit form. This will save a person:
1.)the cost of testing soil
2.)the cost of ordering large amounts of amendment
3.)the ability to try out high brix without wasting money on stuff they won't use if they don't like it
However, the kit will not work with the mix you have now. It needs virgin promix. I haven't done the "second run" soil test yet, but the recycled amendments package will no doubt be much different than the initial mix.
Using these products indoors in containers is quite different than outdoors.
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OK, so I'm planning to grow some Colombian and Willie Nelson indoors again. I'm hoping that defoliation will help keep the plants smaller, so I'm practicing a bit to see how it all works, etc.
Everything else is going just great! Plants are starting to change color, fan leaves are dropping off, resin is forming, buds are swelling.....quality of product looks off the hook.
Everything else is going just great! Plants are starting to change color, fan leaves are dropping off, resin is forming, buds are swelling.....quality of product looks off the hook.
Now those are some frosty plants, beautiful Doc!!! Good luck with the defoliation!!!
i couldnt agree more, nice and frosty
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I'm quite proud of these plants! I feel like I've arrived at the destination, and now I need to unload all the furniture and start the BBQ. Prior to this run, I felt like I was still on the journey, and hadn't arrived to where i wanted to be. Now, I know I'm just a few tweaks away from really getting it right.
So, the next piece of the learning curve to becoming a master-cultivator is to improve my skills with pruning, canopy management, etc.
One of these days, I'll actually be good at this!
shizznizzle
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Doc super super impressed it took me a minute to get caught up....but dang!! I am just finishing up my first grow in about two or three weeks and have learned so much from you. Wow......
Hi brix for me very soon!!
Shizz
Hi brix for me very soon!!
Shizz
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Doc super super impressed it took me a minute to get caught up....but dang!! I am just finishing up my first grow in about two or three weeks and have learned so much from you. Wow......
Hi brix for me very soon!!
Shizz
Shizz....growing like this is cheating. It's too easy, the plants are way too healthy and the finished product will make you famous. It's not fair! I feel bad for all the people using salt ferts and expensive nutrient lines. It's just not fair!
So, in the interest of fairness, you should consider deducting how much cheaper high brix growing is compared to say, House and Garden or Advanced, and donate the difference to a charity for out or work stoner/growers....or maybe not.
Strickly420
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With these photos you should have noooo Problem making back that $300 worth of testing when you sell your soil. I hope to try highbrix soil in the next few grows. Your nug porn is exquisite lol
Positive Vibes,
Strickly420
Positive Vibes,
Strickly420
HappyGrowmore
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Beautiful picks Doc.
I had a lenthy conversation today with the soil broadcast guy and in my soil report i dont have pgr, or amaze in the recomendations. I was told that i didnt need PGR because its already in BrixBlaster. So my question is, are you still using both and if so is the PGR just for deficiencies or is it that you just dont need all the extra stuff in BxBlaster ? Should i go ahead and order them also because our crop is just a little different?
I had a lenthy conversation today with the soil broadcast guy and in my soil report i dont have pgr, or amaze in the recomendations. I was told that i didnt need PGR because its already in BrixBlaster. So my question is, are you still using both and if so is the PGR just for deficiencies or is it that you just dont need all the extra stuff in BxBlaster ? Should i go ahead and order them also because our crop is just a little different?
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What soil did you get tested? Did it pass?
Use exactly what they tell you to use, exactly the way they tell you to use it!
HappyGrowmore
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Sorry about that , i also had promix hp tested. Talked to the soil broadcast guy again today, and he told me that brixblaster and Qualify was created with everything (amaze, pgr,and a variety of other things) you would need as a home gardener to simplify the process and still receive the highest quality product.
Have you used Way ahead at all? The fact that it can help free up nutrients for the plants sounds interesting.
HappyGrowmore
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I have a few questions about this comment. When you water, do you completely saturate your soil then let the excess drain off into your hydro table or is it like me where i water just enough so my saucers begin to fill but my plants suck up the extra within the hour?
Also, could the leeching be reduced by not saturating the soil or are things going to naturally leech out the bottom do to the fact that not all the minerals have been broken down yet by the bacteria and fungas , and gravity does its part? (Random thought) if gravity is the cause, then would the "LESS" "More Often" be a better aproach to keeping the soil mineralized and the soil activity up?
CoryDavid88
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been following for some time now. not a brix person myself. even asked my local grow shop about it and he tried handing me a bottle. 
so i dont have the support to be brix. my question is dirt related. i bought new bag of dirt and then 30 hrs later it was covered in white mold. some say its healthy for dirt to break down. i dont see anyway this is healthy below my canopy.any thoughts. thanks Doc and all your plants ive seen look wonderful. you know what to do with the soil for sure...Keep it up
so i dont have the support to be brix. my question is dirt related. i bought new bag of dirt and then 30 hrs later it was covered in white mold. some say its healthy for dirt to break down. i dont see anyway this is healthy below my canopy.any thoughts. thanks Doc and all your plants ive seen look wonderful. you know what to do with the soil for sure...Keep it up- Thread starter
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You're asking the same question I ask myself? I've used different watering techniques and different mediums. I don't know the best way to water during the bloom phase yet.....should I keep 'em moist with little runoff? Should I let 'em dry out and soak 'em? I honestly don't know, for the reasons you listed above and others. Experimentation is the key!
I can say this: Without a doubt the best way to water in veg is to let them dry out, then soak them. That builds roots. As far as during bloom, however, I really don't know yet.
The grow shop won't know much about this. The people you want to talk to are those who have market gardens, where they grow small crops of vegetables for 5-star restaurants and such. Those are the people who do High Brix, because they simply must produce the best quality produce possible.been following for some time now. not a brix person myself. even asked my local grow shop about it and he tried handing me a bottle.
The white mold you see is fungus, and it's a very good sign. It means your soil is alive! Mineralize the soil and grow some really nice plants!
CoryDavid88
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Ok im gonna keep doing what ive been doing so far. I love the brix method only waiting for your packaged deal. Ive read all your journals you have had since january. True icon to the growing world. thank you for inspiration. when you get going ever need an employee im always willing to relocate. thanks for easing my mind. time to water
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