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Right, in a normal SIP the soil has a chance to breathe as that water table shrinks down allowing more air into the soil and lowering the PWT by the height of your reservoir, at least for those plants that drain their reservoirs regularly.
That doesn't mean all of the soil is aerated as I'm learning in my small pots, but at least the amount subjected to excess water breathes a bit.
But with an auto fill, all the reservoir is doing is raising the permanently over wet section of soil in the pot and not allowing the breathing to take place within it. So, the reservoir isn't needed for the reserve of water since that's stored elsewhere on the property, and you lose the breathing function that helps restore the O2.
Meaning that maybe it would be best to just keep a minimal amount in the pot reservoir to provide an area for the roots to find water, but keep the excess out of the pot, giving you the best of both worlds; unlimited water but also maximum air in the soil.
In a bottle grow that likely doesn't matter, but in an organic one where we're depending on microbes that need to breathe, different rules apply.
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An auto water system that could adjust down would be interesting. These won't easily. I'd have to cut the cup that creates pressure that shuts off the feed. I'm not sure it would work. I could line the bottom with stones and start the foot higher I suppose.
I'm looking forward to seeing your new design!
And Grand Daddy Black!Ahem! Chopped Liver tried to help.
And others! I could turn my system off for a day, on for a day and have a different wet/dry cycle going. Hmmm, maybe in the future.
Lol. I should have said new to me. And it's not even that since it's what I used for my first few rounds. It's the one shown in the video on page two of the SIP Club thread.
I was under the impression that, because of the aerated chamber, the more water the better so I built the wicking footer with a 16 oz container.
This round of going with a 3" net pot, or around 4 oz of soil, to see what difference that will make.
All that's old is new again.
I know that there are toilet bowl style floaters that are adjustable to turn on or off equipment. They are small too so would work in a 5 gal SIP bucket. Then you could adjust the float so that it is just off of the bottom of the bucket at the refill point and then to just at your overflow hole at the turn off point. I think they have enough play in them for that.
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What do you think about my not watering the first ones after first planting and having a clean run, then next run watering for the week and this happening? I'm convinced to a point that I want to give it a go again unwatered as it was first 5 plants.Lol. I should have said new to me. And it's not even that since it's what I used for my first few rounds. It's the one shown in the video on page two of the SIP Club thread.
I was under the impression that, because of the aerated chamber, the more water the better so I built the wicking footer with a 16 oz container.
This round of going with a 3" net pot, or around 4 oz of soil, to see what difference that will make.
All that's old is new again.
I have one in my water barrel and I really like it! Good idea if there's ones with real short floats so they can swing down to open and have room. It'd be tight but the right one could do it!
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GENERAL LOOK AT OVERNIGHT DEVELOPEMENT
Hey all, an overall look at the plant in focus yesterday tells me she's still going in the wrong direction but slowly. Since flowering all the small leaves on colas have been light green and now crunchy around the edges. The middle's may be looking greener! Tomorrow might be more of a teller! I'll think positive thoughts until then! She bulked overnight! A good sign for sure!
The rest of the tent:
Tall Apple Betty has no affliction at all! She bulked overnight.
Banana Pudding is starting a slight tip browning at cola level. Good color otherwise. Bulked "
Mango Mousse is having the issue same as short Betty. Keeping a close eye on her! Not as bad but plentiful leaf eating happening. I hope I caught this one earlier than Betty! I think I did! Slow on bulking but on the way!
Hey all, an overall look at the plant in focus yesterday tells me she's still going in the wrong direction but slowly. Since flowering all the small leaves on colas have been light green and now crunchy around the edges. The middle's may be looking greener! Tomorrow might be more of a teller! I'll think positive thoughts until then! She bulked overnight! A good sign for sure!
The rest of the tent:
Tall Apple Betty has no affliction at all! She bulked overnight.
Banana Pudding is starting a slight tip browning at cola level. Good color otherwise. Bulked "
Mango Mousse is having the issue same as short Betty. Keeping a close eye on her! Not as bad but plentiful leaf eating happening. I hope I caught this one earlier than Betty! I think I did! Slow on bulking but on the way!
Let me do some research, I think I might have it book marked
I knew I had it though looking back at them Iām not sure they would work and some of them are out of stock.
However if your handy with a soldering iron and that type of stuff it would be easy to build your own. A fishing bobber, and actuator arm and a couple of switches at your set points and you are off and running
Here is the link: Auberins
However if your handy with a soldering iron and that type of stuff it would be easy to build your own. A fishing bobber, and actuator arm and a couple of switches at your set points and you are off and running
Here is the link: Auberins
I think this is all the bleeding edge type stuff of using these containers. Dialing it in as it were. The basic concept is solid but there are for sure nuances depending on different variables like nute selection, soil mix and wicking ability, height of container, type and relative size of the soil wick, the watering process to start them off, etc.
Trying to dulicate your previous success next round would certainly be a good data point. See if that variable holds true.
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Thank you for your feedback! It's nice to see you documentanting your journey through the growing processSUMMER PLANTING, MORE DESSERT PLEASE! UPDATE
Hi all! Today was the day for @Herbies Seeds second planting... outdoors! One Apple Betty went in!
I turned last years soil over well and amended it with about a half cup of @DYNOMYCO and 3 cups of @GeoFlora Nutrients Veg. Stuck her in nice and deep and watered well!
Sprinkled some mico on all the roots.
I got her in and you can see the light spots near the edges of my spikes before I covered them with soil. She's munch on that later!
If anyone wants the recipe.
One more to go in. Still too small so maybe next week. She likes the outdoors! Runtz Muffin.
Peace..
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It was so care free I think I have to do it.
Thanks, I'll be checking in on her all summer with my amends and whatnots here in this journal. Looks like a good summer to come! Last year @Bill284 's BettyThank you for your feedback! It's nice to see you documentanting your journey through the growing process
thrilled me so much I had to try one outdoors! If I get half what he did, 5 pounds ,I'll be thrilled out of my mind!
Good morning Stone.It was so care free I think I have to do it.
Thanks, I'll be checking in on her all summer with my amends and whatnots here in this journal. Looks like a good summer to come! Last year @Bill284 's Betty
SNS DC. If you want a big harvest bring the big guns.
The stuff saved my bacon.
Good luck Buddy.
I'm rooten for ya.
Stay safe
Bill284
Good morning Stone looks like a nice day today. 
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SNS DC will be the next read! Thanks I was wondering what SNS product I wanted to use this year. Last year I waited too long and went with Safers for mites. It was ok but the continuum was bent a little I think! Thanks Bill!Good morning Stone.
SNS DC. If you want a big harvest bring the big guns.
The stuff saved my bacon.
Good luck Buddy.
I'm rooten for ya.
Stay safe
Bill284
Warm and sunny here! Good day for anything!Good morning Stone looks like a nice day today.
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PROGRESS REPORT UPDATE
Hidey ho all, I peeked in for a second before I have to run out. The damage may be reversing! Before the change all the small leaves around the tops of all the colas were yellow, then they went to burning edges and tips. Today what's left of them have turned a nice green replacing yellow! A very good signal we're on the right track! Buds are still swelling too! We may have put her back on track in time for a nice and near full happy ending! That's the story I'
m sticking to
. WhenI get back I'll try to get another brix reading.
Hidey ho all, I peeked in for a second before I have to run out. The damage may be reversing! Before the change all the small leaves around the tops of all the colas were yellow, then they went to burning edges and tips. Today what's left of them have turned a nice green replacing yellow! A very good signal we're on the right track! Buds are still swelling too! We may have put her back on track in time for a nice and near full happy ending! That's the story I'
m sticking to
. WhenI get back I'll try to get another brix reading.
Otter, I don't know the SNS products your are referring to so I am in no way trying to made a comment on them, but do give Beauveria Bassiana a look too. You might decide to use both. I have used it very effectively outdoors in a regular foliar treatment, say weekly. I have posted a Youtube video explainer in my thread, of how it can be used. I was thrilled to bits to see this vlogger guy recommending it, and he dusts his seeds with it! I will be doing that going forward. BB is a fungus that attacks arthropods and feeds on them. I've been impressed by it. Apart from a few grass hoppers and the odd solitary locust, I didn't see pests.
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I saw it in your garden and was thrilled to watch it! Jeromy from Build a Soil is a trusted person to me! I ordered a bag for the outside grow 2 minutes ago! Thanks for finding it and saying so!Otter, I don't know the SNS products your are referring to so I am in no way trying to made a comment on them, but do give Beauveria Bassiana a look too. You might decide to use both. I have used it very effectively outdoors in a regular foliar treatment, say weekly. I have posted a Youtube video explainer in my thread, of how it can be used. I was thrilled to bits to see this vlogger guy recommending it, and he dusts his seeds with it! I will be doing that going forward. BB is a fungus that attacks arthropods and feeds on them. I've been impressed by it. Apart from a few grass hoppers and the odd solitary locust, I didn't see pests.
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@InTheShed I thought of you and aphids when I read this! Have you seen it? Found it here while I was down the hole. I'm thinking of using it outside this summer. I got some at Build a soil. Here's the Vid @Carmen Ray has up if you're interested. I'm hoping for preventitive mite help.
"Beauveria bassiana is a naturally occurring entomopathogenic fungus that is not only effective for fungi insect control, but also pet safe indoor insecticide. This fungus is widely used as an agricultural pest control insecticide, specifically for the treatment of aphids and other soft-bodied insects in greenhouse, field, and nursery crops. This environmentally safe technique provides an alternative to chemical insecticides used in agricultural pest control, and is also a safe option for pet owners with indoor plants who want to use pet safe indoor insecticide. "
"Beauveria bassiana is a naturally occurring entomopathogenic fungus that is not only effective for fungi insect control, but also pet safe indoor insecticide. This fungus is widely used as an agricultural pest control insecticide, specifically for the treatment of aphids and other soft-bodied insects in greenhouse, field, and nursery crops. This environmentally safe technique provides an alternative to chemical insecticides used in agricultural pest control, and is also a safe option for pet owners with indoor plants who want to use pet safe indoor insecticide. "