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Gee64 said:
When 02 gets low, from wet soil or compaction, or possibly saran wrap, all soil nutrients stop becoming available, so whatever the plant is using the most of at the time will show deficiency 1st. It's all in the timing.
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Which is almost always going to be K since it’s so intertwined in the plants transpiration. Actually kind of sounds like K is the best possible show for this situation, if you have to deal with it. At least you get a metabolic bump when K stress occurs.
 
Keffka said:
Did you stop the calmag at the same time you removed the covers? I would lean into the covers being the issue, but I would keep the calcium antagonism in my mind. I don’t think you would see such quick results if it was the calmag though. Did you use a nutrient cycling microbe product? That could cause a quick turnaround from the calmag.
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Yes I stopped cal/mag. Nute cycling product?
Azimuth said:
I wonder if that has less to do with wetness and more to do with oxygen? The plastic cover doesn't breathe real well but the bark mulch should be great!
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I think so too.
 
NEW SCHEDULE UPDATE

Good day folks! New thing to try today. It'll be a day off of top watering to let them have a dryish moment. Just a day. They had a day of Real Growers Recharge, one with plain water, and one with myco. Today will be a dry day. Tomorrow I'll start the cycle again. 1.6 ltr at a time.

I kept the rez turned on the whole time and am continuing that.
 
StoneOtter said:
Nute cycling product
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Yep a product like this one that you used:

StoneOtter said:
Real Growers Recharge,
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So it’s a little bit more difficult now. Most signs point to Oxygen but applying the recharge also can break up antagonisms and lockouts pretty much on contact. I’d stick to your current course of action since you’re seeing results. Just remember, Recharge has molasses in it, so you’re pumping extra carbs in your microbes aren’t working for. Don’t let them get lazy on you
 
Gee64 said:
Recharge? do you mix it like a tea?
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It’s similar without the work. It’s marketed as an “instant compost tea” just add into your water. Here’s its ingredients, you’ll notice plenty of organic acids as well
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Keffka said:
Yep a product like this one that you used:




So it’s a little bit more difficult now. Most signs point to Oxygen but applying the recharge also can break up antagonisms and lockouts pretty much on contact. I’d stick to your current course of action since you’re seeing results. Just remember, Recharge has molasses in it, so you’re pumping extra carbs in your microbes aren’t working for. Don’t let them get lazy on you
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Good point with molasses! Figuring moderation is tough enough in human life, for me anyway, same with these! I'll keep from using it more than one more time then I'll quit it.Thje plant most affected will be done in a few weeks. I wanted to get some microbes back to aerobic life fast. It worked. It was so wet under there I was surprised it didn't stink! Might play with shutting the water off for a day here and there to see about that brix #.
 
StoneOtter said:
Good point with molasses! Figuring moderation is tough enough in human life, for me anyway, same with these! I'll keep from using it more than one more time then I'll quit it.Thje plant most affected will be done in a few weeks. I wanted to get some microbes back to aerobic life fast. It worked. It was so wet under there I was surprised it didn't stink! Might play with shutting the water off for a day here and there to see about that brix #.
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Don’t get me wrong, it works great. Its something I would recommend to anyone who can’t brew up their own teas or people like myself who just refuse to brew teas 🤣

I have a packet of it I keep in case of emergencies but I haven’t needed it yet. You nailed it anyway, moderation and balance.
 
I should add in that I will brew a tea if there’s an issue. I’m not completely against teas, I just use them as rescue/emergency tools since that’s how I became acquainted with them in the first place.

I prefer to have everything taken care of before I ever even germinate but sometimes stuff happens and you’re forced to remedy a situation.
 
I used a tsp in the 1.6 ltr!
 
Keffka said:
Don’t get me wrong, it works great. Its something I would recommend to anyone who can’t brew up their own teas or people like myself who just refuse to brew teas 🤣

I have a packet of it I keep in case of emergencies but I haven’t needed it yet. You nailed it anyway, moderation and balance.
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It's myco, microbes, kelp, and chelators. The molasses is to keep the microbes alive while in solution and allow them to multiply. If you brew it with air stones until it goes foamy, usually about 18 hours, the excess molasses gets eaten and the microbe population increases drastically.

Does it have brewing instructions?
 
Keffka said:
I should add in that I will brew a tea if there’s an issue. I’m not completely against teas, I just use them as rescue/emergency tools since that’s how I became acquainted with them in the first place.

I prefer to have everything taken care of before I ever even germinate but sometimes stuff happens and you’re forced to remedy a situation.
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I got lazy. When The Rev wrote in his second book that he didn't use much tea I bought into recharge.
 
Gee64 said:
It's myco, microbes, kelp, and chelators. The molasses is to keep the microbes alive while in solution and allow them to multiply. If you brew it with air stones until it goes foamy, usually about 18 hours, the excess molasses gets eaten and the microbe population increases drastically.

Does it have brewing instructions?
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I don’t see why you couldn’t. The package I linked is different than the one I have but it’s basically a tea in a bag. Although brewing it sort of defeats the premium you pay and you’d be much better off financially just pulling the ingredients together for your own brew
 
Whoops! That plain water day I mentioned was wrong! I used a new to me thing. Neptune Harvest Fish and kelp fert.
 
smokesbetter said:
Nice your on the mend ands got it pretty much figured out as to what happened .
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Hehe, "pretty much" think so. I do think so but time will tell Smokes! I've had such a good run! This is a real good learning experience for me! The Rev soil hasn't had big issues until I asked it to work under water :thedoubletake: :thumb:.
 
StoneOtter said:
Hehe, "pretty much" think so. I do think so but time will tell Smokes! I've had such a good run! This is a real good learning experience for me! The Rev soil hasn't had big issues until I asked it to work under water :thedoubletake: :thumb:.
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He does make a fairly big deal about the container and oxygen exchange in the 3rd edition if I remember correctly, and for all the reasons @Gee64 stated. By the time I read it though, it was stuff Gee had told me years ago. I’ve suspected a few times Gee is more than he lets on but have learned a lot regardless 😂
 
Keffka said:
He does make a fairly big deal about the container and oxygen exchange in the 3rd edition if I remember correctly, and for all the reasons @Gee64 stated. By the time I read it though, it was stuff Gee had told me years ago. I’ve suspected a few times Gee is more than he lets on but have learned a lot regardless 😂
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I paid Keff to say that.
 
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