Hempy Headquarters

Reports from afar...

Ouch.

So, hempies... Instead of measuring up from the bottom when deciding where to make the hole, one should be measuring down from the top?

Mixing in a quantity of vermiculite might help (significantly) with the wicking issue - but it could (in practical terms) make the compaction issue worse, and might add a bit of an "alkaline pH burden" to the equation.

Aerating won't help extend the wicking distance. OtOH, if one decides to make the hole at a higher level (which would help, in a manner of speaking), it could end up causing lower levels of oxygen down there - and aerating would help with that.

I wish I could remember why I ultimately stopped using vermiculite, way back when. There must(???) have been a reason, since I've still got ~1.8 or more cubic feet of the stuff. I know why I don't reach for it NOW, lol; the "ventilated" (seems to have some small holes in it, throughout) has been sitting on my basement floor for ~10 years, so it has been more or less constantly exposed to nasty water/etc. the entire time. I suppose I could throw some in the oven, spin the hate-dial all the way up, and bake it for an hour. Er, sorry, lost my train of thought.

No more than a foot... That seems to be in line with what Sue has told us about wicking in hempies, IIRC. Makes the two-liter bottles seem better and better, lol. Now I'm wondering about volume to height. After all, kiddie pools aren't all that tall :p. 21.7 ft.³ hempy, anyone? (Don't look at me, I couldn't afford the materials.)

Here's a thought: Take one of those 2' tall pots, empty it out... then take a piece of PVC pipe or whatever you have available that's of suitable length, stand it up in the container (off to the side), fill the pipe with vermiculite (I suppose you could use coco coir in place of vermiculite, but my gut - which isn't any smarter than the rest of me, BtW - tells me vermiculite would be more appropriate for this), then fill the rest of the container with perlite as per normal, wet everything down and, finally, remove the PVC pipe (perhaps using something in the pipe that you hold at a stationary height while you raise the length of pipe so that much of the vermiculite doesn't just come along for the ride).

Would that give you a built-in "water-wick," I wonder? Shouldn't really exasperate the compaction issue, since the vermiculite wouldn't be mixed all through the perlite.

I have a feeling this one will remain as a thought-experiment. After all, it'd be modifying a failed experiment in an attempt to succeed... when an alternate method obviously works. That'd probably only have an appeal if you really like the form factor of those 2' tall containers.
 
NP Beez! :high-five:

Adding 1ml of Grow Big to 1 gallon will raise the K about 8.5 ppm, but your N is already too high. And we already addressed the Ca by increasing your CalMag by 2ml.

To raise the K with your current lineup, you could check out something like Dyna-Gro ProteKt, with 3.7% K, and which also provides 7.8% silica.

Better would be something that already has K, Ca, and other nutrients in more correct ratios. I’m trying something new right now (got a free 230g sample from their website), and will report back soon. PM me if ya want the link (not sure it’s kosher to post it).
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Felipe, what're you using? I'm just curious. I'm trying out Mega Crop, using my own free sample.
 
Feeding the baby







 
Flood & drain mini-hempy, lol, I love it!

I'm tape-shy these days (made the mistake of once using Gorilla tape - I think a welder would have created a more temporary joining :rolleyes: ). I assume I could do the same thing by sticking the "holed" cup into one that was still intact, then lifting it back out after watering the seedling?
 
Flood & drain mini-hempy, lol, I love it!

I'm tape-shy these days (made the mistake of once using Gorilla tape - I think a welder would have created a more temporary joining :rolleyes: ). I assume I could do the same thing by sticking the "holed" cup into one that was still intact, then lifting it back out after watering the seedling?

You know what TS? That never even occurred to me. :rofl:
 
Felipe, what're you using? I'm just curious. I'm trying out MegaCrop, using my own free sample.

Hi Sue!:high-five:

I’m currently just putting 2.5g (1/2 tsp) of MaxiCrop in my 2 gal bucket while it’s filling. Check to make sure it’s all dissolved and pH still around 5.9, done.

So far, no signs of deficiencies with ~113 ppm total (only 33 ppm N). With hempy, if ya see a few pale leaves, you can immediately bump up the dose and fertigate away.
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You know what TS? That never even occurred to me. :rofl:

Lol. It shouldn't have occurred to me, because I only own five Solo cups. But I really hate tape (just ask the guy I paint with :rolleyes: ).
 
Hi Sue!:high-five:

I’m currently just putting 2.5g (1/2 tsp) of MaxiCrop in my 2 gal bucket while it’s filling. Check to make sure it’s all dissolved and pH still around 5.9, done.

So far, no signs of deficiencies with ~113 ppm total (only 33 ppm N). With hempy, if ya see a few pale leaves, you can immediately bump up the dose and fertigate away.
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That’s pretty much how Mega Crop works. Are you running it at half strength? Mega Crop is a starting mix of 2 gr to the gallon working up to 6 in flower.
 
.......oops...... :passitleft:
 
Did you knock your bong over, lol? Hate it when that happens. Always seems to end up in my lap seconds before I (intended to) head out the door.
 
Are you running it at half strength? Mega Crop is a starting mix of 2 gr to the gallon working up to 6 in flower.

Yes indeed, I’m trying half-strength. I recently read a paper that gave the total amount of N used by tomatoes during the entire season. It worked out to 160mg/kg per square foot. Well, that’s only 160 ppm of N used for an entire season. Hmmmm...

Now I’m wondering how low can I go with feeding cannabis
(always experimenting! :ganjamon:). I figure, with hempy, you are adding fresh nutrients every couple days or so, so how much does the plant really use during that period?


Now, you do want to keep the N-P-K-Ca-Mg ratios reasonable so that there won’t be any “limiting by the minimum”. The MegaCrop ratios are pretty ideal IMO.

As I said, so far (after only 10 days though), I am not seeing any issues, including non-hempy plants in containers around the property (still basically drain-to-waste in most cases, since the potting mix is either old and depleted, or is a gritty mix for woody plants).
Cheers! :passitleft:
 
We do seem to overfeed our precious cannabis plants mercilessly - even when they're growing in environments when they're not limited by nutrient amount, but things like light-energy, CO₂, and temperature.

You'd almost think someone was making bank off of us doing so. . . .
 
The world's a funny place, and these halls are a constant source of joyful humor for me.
I'll let you all in on a little slice of the humor I've been laughing about.....
I've been bouncing off the wall here forever. Sue too. We've bounced many ideas off each other and walked many paths together. We've seen each other bang our head on pointless ideas... and we've seen what does and doesn't work in each other's worlds.
After painting the backdrop, you might begin to see my source of humor.

This is a river of knowledge that flowed from Tead's world into Sue's....
No more than a foot... That seems to be in line with what Sue has told us about wicking in hempies

And this is a river that flowed from Sue's world to Tead's....
I would use just a cotton strip rather than your fancy wicking ideas.

I would imagine Sue would agree.... it's just fun to see the ideas spread around.
There are many things here that make me smile. Seeing ideas weave their way thru the crowds can be fun if you can follow them.


You'd almost think someone was making bank off of us doing so. . . .

The fine folks that make Osmo collect my pennies. They seem to require many fewer pennies than the other options.....
 
Mega Crop is a starting mix of 2 gr to the gallon working up to 6 in flower.

Hmmmm.. 6 tsp/gal provides nearly 160 ppm N (158.4)...

That’s interesting, on the heels of the tomato study I referenced above. But for every watering?

Here ya go..
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The fine folks that make Osmo collect my pennies. They seem to require many fewer pennies than the other options.....

Well, to refer to the folks that brought us Roundup, and many other questionable compounds, as fine may be considered by some to be quite generous. However, Osmo+ itself appears to be a fine product, and you make an excellent point about cost.

Tead, I know you have done extensive testing to determine that 3.3 to 3.4g/L of growth media (perlite, etc) appears to be the optimal dose for cannabis. The best off-the-shelf price around here is $22 for a 8 lb bag. At 12.7g of Osmo+ per gallon of perlite, the cost comes to about $0.02/gallon (of media, not water!).

Then, just pH-adjust your water as needed. Truly lazy!
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You touch upon a piece of hempy philosophy there.
Do plants grow better when fed with every watering, or should one stick to a feeding a week?
I have no such options in my current Osmo world, but when I used liquid I fed with every watering.

I'm not sure, off the top of my head, what the currently accepted numbers are. I'll leave that to heads more stable than mine, lol.

I'll always consider hempy to be (passive) hydroponics and, therefore, will always suggest a constant-feed kind of strategy. If this was DWC we were discussing, no one would be asking if we should run nothing but water in our reservoirs for one week out of the month. I assume.

Way back when I was a child and just occasionally helping with the food garden and some houseplants, I happened to read on some fertilizer container that we could give a big dose of nutrients once in a while - or a more reasonable amount with every watering. Even then, the latter struck me as being more... "natural," in that plants growing outdoors, on their own, would (I think?) exist on what was in the ground the entire time. Some cannabis growers do (or attempt to do) grows where they have everything mixed up and in place beforehand. Nutrients are constantly there.

Some of us eat three times per day, some eat six small meals per day, some are lucky to eat once per... Regardless, we are used to consuming a portion of our daily nutrients as an activity, so to speak. We (hopefully ;) ) fill our bellies at intervals and then live off of that until the next opportunity to eat presents itself.

As far as I know, plants are not like us in that regard; they feed more or less constantly throughout the day when the lights are on or the sun is shining.

I remember some years ago, as a new member here, occasionally reading threads and seeing comments like "I fed the plants <whatever> and they really perked up. Like they were doing it right, I guess, and happy that they saw this visual response. But, to me, this indicated that the plants were in need of nutrients before they were fed. I'd argue that, if you feed your plants and they perk up, you're not so much doing something right, now, lol... you were doing something wrong before.

Outside of that whole "flushing" thing (assuming you believe in that as a matter of course or in response to some over-feeding incident), I believe that plants should have sufficient nutrients available for their needs, constantly. We should never see them suddenly give us clues that they're healthier than before (they should have been that way all along).

My opinions, of course.

We'd probably "perk up," too, after eating... if someone only allowed us a meal every two or three days.
 
As I mentioned, as an Osmo grower, I'm gonna lean your way... but I've seen many beautiful grows that went the other.
This is one where the science is out of reach for me. I can see or imagine many things, but in the end, the deciding factor during liquid grows in the past was the replication of the natural environmental conditions regarding the availability of the nutes.
 
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