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Excellent musings TS!

Oh? I had second thoughts after posting them.

I appreciate getting your perspective on this

Sometimes, my perspective... is like trying to describe a tesseract. At the end, it seemed like I was 100% against Osmocote Plus. Which isn't precisely the case, actually (I even own some). I'm not really a fan, exactly, but feel that it does have its uses. And not just that of being able to sneak some food into my 78-year old mother's poor houseplants for them to access on the rare occasions when she waters them. "Water costs money!" - she's even worse than I am, lol. But I mostly like having the ability to give plants what they need, when they need it.

I'll be doing a couple more O+ plants soon - probably one each, soil(less) and passive hydroponics. Possibly a couple more, but probably not (have some GH to use up and some newer Fox Farms stuff). Will be gifting young plants soon, and I'll probably mix a couple of those with O+ so that the person receiving them can be lazy. He won't mind a time-release fertilizer, lol, since I've known him to use Jobe's fertilizer "spikes" :rolleyes: .
 
Hi there everyone, I've been hanging back and busy but watching. Good to see everyone seems to be enjoying the Hempy growing. I thought I would update just a bit. I started a second grow about 36days ago. Moved into 32oz Hempy
Cups and not putting into the 1.5gal Waste Paper Baskets for my Hempy Baskets as I call them. Transplanted two more of my little ones today and learned a valuable lesson. Must let the roots become a bit more formed all the way down so that moving them keeps the Hempy in place. Anyway group picture of my 2 Gold Leaf Golden Girls and 2 Super Lemon Haze I call the Lemon Sisters. The fifth is a Gorilla Grape. The Lemon Sisters are up front in the pink cups waiting to be transferred on Sunday I think. They have already had Topping and LST into 4 and 6 colas branches hopefully.
I have taken 4 clones from the SLH's, 2 each and plan to do the same with the GL and GG. I feel they are looking really healthy and have enjoyed their time under the T5 and now are under a DIY LED board I put together.
 
I started a second grow about 36days ago. Moved into 32oz Hempy
Cups and not putting into the 1.5gal
Waste Paper Baskets for my Hempy Baskets as I call them.

Nice. How many are you keeping in the cups? I don't go below two liters in container size for "no-transplant" grows any more, but I know one can stuff nine "budcicle" plants into a square foot, so it's probably possible to leave plants in cups. I'd think something with a square footprint might work better, since that allows the entire area to be used for media (cups, being round at the base - and tapering down to it - do not allow this).

Transplanted two more of my little ones today and learned a valuable lesson. Must let the roots become a bit more formed all the way down so that moving them keeps the Hempy in place.

Do you let them get as dry as possible before transplanting? That might help. Not a good idea for those growing in coco coir, I suppose, as coco seems to latch onto phosphorous (ions? cations?) when it dries out.

What is your mix? I see lots of perlite, but is it 100%? Or some percentage of coco coir, vermiculite, or...?
 
Okay, you cannot call me a skeptic any more. And I can no longer deny that when Sweet Sue says "DO THIS LIKE THIS" I need to at least try it. I have been trying to germinate some Dark Devil auto seeds now for a few weeks. I started with 5 and using my method (water, paper towel) I managed to get just one to grow. I wanted to grow three of this strain so needed to get two more to actually germinate. Well this is where Sweet Sue stepped in. She said.........Take a red solo cup, drill a 3/4" hole in the cup about 2" up from the bottom. Fill the cup with perlite (this is where I first rolled my eyes and said uh huh) and soak the perlite with very diluted nutrients. Fill it until it come out of the hole at the bottom. Then wait a bit for the perlite to wick up the water. I did this and the last step was to take a seed (no scarifying or anything) and plant it approximately 1/2" deep and you're done. She said in 2-3 days they would be up. That I would most likely have to help remove their helmets as the perlite doesn't offer much friction to pull off the shell.

Well if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes this morning I still wouldn't believe it. One is above ground/perlite and you can clearly see the second one using super seed strength and it's lifting like 5,000lbs of perlite up into the air trying to break through the surface. Thanks Sue, and thanks Hempy nation for this wonderful tip. So, does this work for any strain?


 
Just a quick update. Herculetta has thrown aside her perlite captors and is now up. And from what I can see no helmet on her either.


So now I had to sit here and wonder why. Why did this work when my regular germination technique did not? Here is what I've come up with, and please correct me if I am mistaken. I think taking the seeds and dropping them into the shot glass does help to soften the shell and triggers the seed to grow. However, when comparing the seed in the paper towels to the seeds in perlite two things seem pretty clear. The seeds in the perlite are in a moist environment and not in a wet one as in the paper towels. And in the perlite the seeds are definitely getting more oxygen. One thing I did was to add a little of the diluted nutrient mixture with a pipette to top off the reservoir (in the hole towards the bottom) at day two. Although it probably didn't need it.
 
I was leaning more towards exciting. But interesting is also fitting.
 
I generally have a pretty good success rate with the paper towel method. But for whatever reason the Dark Devil auto seeds just did not appreciate it. Prior to trying the hempy method I was 1 out of 6 successfully germinated. With the hempy.....2 for 2 success. So until it proves otherwise, or the baby plants are too hard to transplant into my medium this is now my go to method for germination.
 
Nice. How many are you keeping in the cups? I don't go below two liters in container size for "no-transplant" grows any more, but I know one can stuff nine "budcicle" plants into a square foot, so it's probably possible to leave plants in cups. I'd think something with a square footprint might work better, since that allows the entire area to be used for media (cups, being round at the base - and tapering down to it - do not allow this).

I hate to sound wishy washy on the numbers and plans, but in the moment I'm not sure. Part is taking some things a bit of a day at a time. I do sometimes make awesome big plans and as I gain experience I find they are a bit overboard. With that being said. I need to get my current flowering Rey out of my flower tent and she doesn't seem to be in a huge hurry EVER!

The end of this week I'm going to harvesting the three small clones from Rey. They are like you said kind of a Budcicle. Two are in small 20oz stadium cups that sit in a swiffer container to catch the water. The other aka "the Runt" is in a larger Waste basket like above, also in a swiffer refills container. Together removing them will open up quite a bit of room for at least two if not three of the oval waster paper baskets. I still need to transfer the SLh's into said baskets and tie them back down again. Since they are topped and somewhat manifold LST and approaching 6weeks I feel they are ready to flip and let stretch to see what they are capable of.

That action should open some room in the Veg tent to up plant the clones I took from them. I also need to take some clones off of the Gold Leaf girls and get them to sprout some roots first before transplanting. I like the idea of going straight to the final container, but I don't think I'm going to have room at this juncture. I will have to select which really healthy ones stay and the rest keep just a small budcicle grow of those going, or just kill them and let the other big ones dominate.

I like the idea of the square more efficient square or rectangular foot print. I haven't been able to find something that fits that description yet, without holes in the bottom that would defeat the Hempy idea of a reservoir. I have found some interesting PVC bags with in several sizes. ( 1 Gallon Grow Bags | Grow Bags | Growace.com ) Available in 1,2,3, & 5 gallon sizes. The holes look like they are not too low so there could be a reservoir action. As I'm finding out with my current baskets they need watering every day with 500mls, some of that could be the narrow bottoms. I think I'm going to order some 1 gallon and since they are so cheap maybe some 2 & 3 gallons and try them out. "What the Hell!" I think the PVC Bags have the potential for solving some of the space and reservoir issues. At the very least everyone will have an opportunity to share with the success or failure of the bags.

Do you let them get as dry as possible before transplanting? That might help. What is your mix? I see lots of perlite, but is it 100%? I'm using a 3/1 Perlite/Vermiculite mix.

I haven't tried the dry technique as I had success with Sues technique of transplanting, until these last two that hadn't developed enough root structure to hold the Hempy Mix together. (The first GL Gilda had tons of roots when I moved her) Thanks for the idea moving them dry. I think I will certainly try it with the yet to be moved SLH's.
 
BT, are they wilting every day, or are you watering like that because you think they'll wilt? With the exception of my Devil's Carnival and the solo cup hempies all of my plants have been happy with every other day, regardless of size.

I washed the soil from a Carnival clone I recieved from Jgrowlove and dropped her into the hempy universe. :battingeyelashes:



I love the way I can do this and they don't even skip a beat. Hehe! The perlite was soaked with 1/4-strength nutrients before planting.
 
@BTzGrow, I just wanted to note that I've transplanted teeny-tiny seedlings, just two days old, with no problems. It really doesn't matter how small the Roos are. They'll take to growing out to embrace the nutrient-laden perlite as soon as you plant them.

@beez0404, thanks for posting. One of the reasons it works is the humidity domes hold the moist atmosphere close. Just remember to get them transplanted before the tap root hits bottom. I don't let autos go any longer than two days before I move them.

To transplant tape over the hole on the cup and fill with water. Then just wiggle the seedling loose and plant into the finish pot, in perlite soaked with 1/4-strength nutrients. After that it's every other day watering.
 
Well this is where Sweet Sue stepped in. She said.........Take a red solo cup, drill a 3/4" hole in the cup about 2" up from the bottom. Fill the cup with perlite (this is where I first rolled my eyes and said uh huh) and soak the perlite with very diluted nutrients. Fill it until it come out of the hole at the bottom. Then wait a bit for the perlite to wick up the water. I did this and the last step was to take a seed (no scarifying or anything) and plant it approximately 1/2" deep and you're done. She said in 2-3 days they would be up. That I would most likely have to help remove their helmets as the perlite doesn't offer much friction to pull off the shell.

Tead is officially claiming 1 "proud papa" life point here. So fun to see an idea you've introduced to someone spread.
For the record, Tead likes to give anything young a daily dose of water rather than letting them ride the normal 2 or 3 days.


So, does this work for any strain?

Yes.


Oh? I had second thoughts after posting them.

Sometimes, my perspective... is like trying to describe a tesseract. At the end, it seemed like I was 100% against Osmocote Plus. Which isn't precisely the case, actually (I even own some). I'm not really a fan, exactly, but feel that it does have its uses. And not just that of being able to sneak some food into my 78-year old mother's poor houseplants for them to access on the rare occasions when she waters them. "Water costs money!" - she's even worse than I am, lol. But I mostly like having the ability to give plants what they need, when they need it.

I'll be doing a couple more O+ plants soon - probably one each, soil(less) and passive hydroponics. Possibly a couple more, but probably not (have some GH to use up and some newer Fox Farms stuff). Will be gifting young plants soon, and I'll probably mix a couple of those with O+ so that the person receiving them can be lazy. He won't mind a time-release fertilizer, lol, since I've known him to use Jobe's fertilizer "spikes" :rolleyes: .

I don't think any reasonable human will accuse you of Osmo-hate for your previous words. I think they were spot-on. The Osmo magic really plays out strong in the lazy gardener's garden and one can often see better results with other systems.... no doubt.
Some day I'm going to get around to an Osmo/Dynamite comparison grow... so lazy.
 
BT, are they wilting every day, or are you watering like that because you think they'll wilt? With the exception of my Devil's Carnival and the solo cup hempies all of my plants have been happy with every other day, regardless of size.
Sue, thank you for your wisdom on this subject. I guess I was just going with the knowing that my reservoir holds a 1/2 liter of fluid and each day I pour 1/2 liter in the top and get less than 100ml of runoff. I figure that some of the intake will adhere to the perlite on the way down, so obviously there is still some amount still left in the reservoir. I just didn't want my lovely little ones to get to dry and with my low cost of nutrient mixture per gallon, pouring to waste is costing me merely pennies each day and I know that my girls have lots to drink. Additionally, I'm running my light 24/7 and the temp is staying fairly close to 80degrees with a humidity of around 55%.

@BTzGrow, I just wanted to note that I've transplanted teeny-tiny seedlings, just two days old, with no problems. It really doesn't matter how small the Roos are. They'll take to growing out to embrace the nutrient-laden perlite as soon as you plant them.
Here again, you are helping me keep this process extremely easy. I do use the Root Riots so there is no problem there, it's just the concern with seeing all of the Perlite/Vermiculite mix falling away and thinking that I was damaging roots. Good to know that I'm not. As it is I didn't see any distress after the transplanting process in either cases. Thanks.
 
Is it "normal" for Hempy plants to get this big with such small buckets? I feed KISS maxibloom 1 tsp per gallon pH 6. 12/12 from seed. My first run of hempys ever. No more dirt and bottled nutes for me.






Their dad is a Columbian red point
 
Is it "normal" for Hempy plants to get this big with such small buckets? I feed KISS maxibloom 1 tsp per gallon pH 6. 12/12 from seed. My first run of hempys ever. No more dirt and bottled nutes for me.






Their dad is a Columbian red point
The sock plant is not Hempy, my bad. Added it without paying attention
 
Crikey! How tall are those? It would be nice to have a reference, but at this point I'm thinking they are pushing 2.5 - 3 Feet???
My tallest hempy is (was) just at three feet, I bent her top over this afternoon. I only have a 60" ceiling before I factor in lights and ventilation. Unbelievable considering they are 12/12 from seed.

Bending the tops makes me feel like an abusive zookeeper trying to contain these beasts.
 
I topped my youngest at three nodes. They showed lady parts yesterday or the day before


One was obviously done properly, I tucked those big main stems today.

The other is growing funny, but I gave it an adult maxibloom dose accidentally early on and I effed up my topping.
 
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