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I was wondering if I could get a consensus on how large the Perlite grain size should be. I have some left over from when I mixed it in the soil for the last grow but I have 2 Autos I want to try the Hempy method on. What I have is small grain like what is shown above in the green two liter bottle image. I also have seen Gauge's pics and his is much bigger sized stone. What would you all recommend for a 2Fast 2Vast auto and a Berry Bomb auto in Hempy? Thanks guys, I got a little excited when I finally had some room in my veg tent and put 4 auto seeds in a soak and now they are in paper towels waiting for taproots to show. I am using 10 quart pots which I think is about 2.5 gallons and maturity is 60 days for the 2F2V and 8-10 weeks for the Berry Bomb as claimed by the breeder. Thanks and wish me well as I go into grow number 3 and try hempy and autos for the first time. The hempy growing was just to good to not try as I have a really shot back and carrying 2.5 gallon buckets of Perlite versus 7 gallon soil bags is a no brainer if I can make it work. The auto's I just wanted to see what I can do with as it would be a lot easier for me to do more plants that are small than 2-3 bigger 5 foot monsters. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

Ha ha ha ha muhahaha! Welcome to the amazing world of Hempy Auto's Dude hit me up on my page anytime you want to talk Hempy!
 
Flip + 26 Days All Blue Dreams

For those playing at home everything is running smoothly as long as I'm giving them water on a timely basis. All hempies are grown with Osmocote + nutrients at 6 grams regardless of container size. Best thing about hempy is that they are easy peasy and look at those leaves shining. Buds are small but filling and are proportionate to container size.

There is one soil grow in a 1 gallon pot used as a comparison to the larger hempy pot.

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These are all small perlite. I wish I had some of the coarse stuff.
 
Nice looking plants Magic Jim! I can only get the smaller size here in town and since I am waiting on beans to crack(1 is open and 3 are being stubborn) I think I will give it a try with the smaller size. I will look into a good place to order some of the coarse stone. Gauge I will definitely be sending you a msg to get some good tips.
 
Hi folks, I have joined this thread and did a quick read of every post. I'm jumping in with no prior hempy experience.


Four days ago, I took a 6 day old clone out of the cloner bucket with a nice set of roots.

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Ace Guawi clone in 1.5 gallon (6" PVC) hempy with 19 grams osmocote+. I plan to water every 3 days and foliar spray about once every 10 days.

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Prior to this, I grew 4 plants to maturity using bagged soil and organic bottled nutes, then I switched to a simpler method in soil.

For 2 years after that I grew in Clackamos Coot style living soil using plain water. My soil became exhausted about the time I did a multi-state move.

This spring, I resumed growing using Doc Bud's Hi-Brix soil and nutrients. This has been a really good system for me. My perpetual grow is pumping out one or two 2.5 oz plants a month.

All my experience has been growing in a basement. Growing in living soil, I have no experience with nutrient deficiencies. I don't want to learn about such things now. This is a big motivation for using osmocote+. I want the grow medium. or a simple, repeatable schedule, to provide all the nutrients.


When I started this grow with Hi-Brix soil I didn't plan for space to cook soil. My basement was relatively warm (65 degrees during the spring and summer,) but the temperatures are starting to drop. I can't squeeze anything larger than a 14 gallon soil tote into my flower area and I don't have warm space to cook or store a full 30 gallon batch of soil, let alone enough batches of soil to last through winter. I heat the grow area in winter, and I can store some pre-heated RO water in the grow areas, but I'm not prepared to heat more of the basement. The overnight low on September 29 was 41F, so the first frost isn't far away, and basement temperatures outside my grow area will be about 55 degrees.

My plan for now is to run hempy with slow release (osmocote+) and/or bottled nutes during the chill of winter, store my used soil in as warm a spot as I can find, and cook the soil in my garage next spring when the temperatures warm.


I'll be using 3 gallon buckets and #3 perlite for future hempys, I just happened to have #2 perlite and this 1.5 gallon 6" PVC pipe ready to be used as a hempy.


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What have I learned in 4 days?


Placing a clone directly into a 12" tall hempy was a big shock to the little girl. She dried out by the next morning.

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I watered her a second time on day 2, she bounced back and looks OK now (Day 4)

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I also learned I need to more thoroughly rinse my perlite before use. I've added water 4 times now, each time peeing out over a quart of water, the waste water is still cloudy with perlite dust.



Some thoughts about watering technique and waste water (runoff.)​

Since I had an issue drying out, my watering technique has been to plug the hempy hole with tape, fill my hempy until the surface perlite begins to float, let sit for 5 minutes or so, then unplug the hempy hole and let it pee.


I am guessing that the next 2 waterings (2-3 days apart) I should follow the same technique, giving the roots time to reach the hempy reservoir at the bottom.


After that, I was planning to dump water in the top until I see a strong stream of water leave the hempy hole. This is going to create more runoff than I am used too. Previously in soil, each plant in veg has been watered only as needed, I re-use the bottom soak water for the girls in early veg, so I have had only about a pint of runoff water from whichever girl in late veg needs water on any given day. I just let the water sit and evaporate. I have been collecting the flower area runoff in a large tray of perlite (a SWICK) which gets reabsorbed into the fabric pots and keeps the soil moist. - In short, I have been ignoring my runoff water.


If I veg all my plants in their final pots and get a quart of runoff each, at full capacity that will be 10 quarts of runoff in veg and 6 quarts of runoff in flower every 3 days, so I imagine I will have to collect the runoff water and transport it to a drain.


Thanks for reading, all criticisms gladly accepted. I'm trying the "fake it 'til you make it" approach to hempy.
 
Radogast....I think you'll probably enjoy hempy with Osmocote +. At least you chose a large container. I too had to keep the plants watered top side at first and I used a weak kelp mix just to keep the little ones green. Yes...you'll probably have to deal with the run off water and the powder eventually runs off too.

Welcome aboard. :high-five:
 
Okay, so the amazonians dropped off my remaining suppiles today and I am ready with two seeds sprouted. How long or much shoiuld I soak the rock wool cubes and at what PH. I sort of need to get one seed planted tonight if possible as it decided to really go crazy with taproot growth and I need to get it planted soon. Thank you all for any quick replies as I don't want to lose my Berry Bomb auto.
 
Hi folks, I have joined this thread and did a quick read of every post. I'm jumping in with no prior hempy experience.


Four days ago, I took a 6 day old clone out of the cloner bucket with a nice set of roots.

20170930_132716-1.jpg



Ace Guawi clone in 1.5 gallon (6" PVC) hempy with 19 grams osmocote+. I plan to water every 3 days and foliar spray about once every 10 days.

20170930_150718-1.jpg



Prior to this, I grew 4 plants to maturity using bagged soil and organic bottled nutes, then I switched to a simpler method in soil.

For 2 years after that I grew in Clackamos Coot style living soil using plain water. My soil became exhausted about the time I did a multi-state move.

This spring, I resumed growing using Doc Bud's Hi-Brix soil and nutrients. This has been a really good system for me. My perpetual grow is pumping out one or two 2.5 oz plants a month.

All my experience has been growing in a basement. Growing in living soil, I have no experience with nutrient deficiencies. I don't want to learn about such things now. This is a big motivation for using osmocote+. I want the grow medium. or a simple, repeatable schedule, to provide all the nutrients.


When I started this grow with Hi-Brix soil I didn't plan for space to cook soil. My basement was relatively warm (65 degrees during the spring and summer,) but the temperatures are starting to drop. I can't squeeze anything larger than a 14 gallon soil tote into my flower area and I don't have warm space to cook or store a full 30 gallon batch of soil, let alone enough batches of soil to last through winter. I heat the grow area in winter, and I can store some pre-heated RO water in the grow areas, but I'm not prepared to heat more of the basement. The overnight low on September 29 was 41F, so the first frost isn't far away, and basement temperatures outside my grow area will be about 55 degrees.

My plan for now is to run hempy with slow release (osmocote+) and/or bottled nutes during the chill of winter, store my used soil in as warm a spot as I can find, and cook the soil in my garage next spring when the temperatures warm.


I'll be using 3 gallon buckets and #3 perlite for future hempys, I just happened to have #2 perlite and this 1.5 gallon 6" PVC pipe ready to be used as a hempy.


- - -

What have I learned in 4 days?


Placing a clone directly into a 12" tall hempy was a big shock to the little girl. She dried out by the next morning.

20171001_124231-1.jpg



I watered her a second time on day 2, she bounced back and looks OK now (Day 4)

20171002_110359-1.jpg




I also learned I need to more thoroughly rinse my perlite before use. I've added water 4 times now, each time peeing out over a quart of water, the waste water is still cloudy with perlite dust.



Some thoughts about watering technique and waste water (runoff.)​

Since I had an issue drying out, my watering technique has been to plug the hempy hole with tape, fill my hempy until the surface perlite begins to float, let sit for 5 minutes or so, then unplug the hempy hole and let it pee.


I am guessing that the next 2 waterings (2-3 days apart) I should follow the same technique, giving the roots time to reach the hempy reservoir at the bottom.


After that, I was planning to dump water in the top until I see a strong stream of water leave the hempy hole. This is going to create more runoff than I am used too. Previously in soil, each plant in veg has been watered only as needed, I re-use the bottom soak water for the girls in early veg, so I have had only about a pint of runoff water from whichever girl in late veg needs water on any given day. I just let the water sit and evaporate. I have been collecting the flower area runoff in a large tray of perlite (a SWICK) which gets reabsorbed into the fabric pots and keeps the soil moist. - In short, I have been ignoring my runoff water.


If I veg all my plants in their final pots and get a quart of runoff each, at full capacity that will be 10 quarts of runoff in veg and 6 quarts of runoff in flower every 3 days, so I imagine I will have to collect the runoff water and transport it to a drain.


Thanks for reading, all criticisms gladly accepted. I'm trying the "fake it 'til you make it" approach to hempy.


Well your "faking it" is pretty good my friend. :high-five: And a hearty welcome to the thread. :hugs::hugs::hugs:

Anything higher than 8" begins to wick less efficiently. By the time you hit a foot high the perlite isn't getting anything. When your clones are new they lack the root system to get into the lower 8" of a tall pot, as in the PVC. You're going to be very pleased once she hits the reservoir. :laughtwo: Your response to the challenge was exactly what I was going to suggest, and I'd keep it up for a week. You'll notice when she hits the reservoir.

For anyone planning a transplant, this is how you do that process too. You plug the hole, fill with water and remove the plant. You gotta love the simplicity.

I have the oil pan from the automotive dept. of the local Dollar Tree. Cost me a buck and it's what I set the hempy pots into when I water. The stream is below the top edge, so no concern about splashing all over. I empty it between each plant. A bucket will suffice. You don't ever want to do more with it than flush it down the drain.

I pour in on the opposite side of the hole. Sometimes, like Tead, I plug the hole and let it all sit there for a few seconds before I let it drain.

I've learned how much water each type of pot needs to get the runoff I'm looking for, one that clears the reservoir and leaves behind fresh. My vinegar bottles take a quart, the medium sized pots take 1/2 gallon, the larger pots take 3/4 gallon. I mix for each plant, unless I have a batch getting the same mix, and this way I know how much to mix up. I hate tossing so much, but that's because I still have that soil mentality that says use it all.

I water on a schedule. Vinegar pots get every two days. Medium pots get every three. Large pots get every four, sometimes three if they go through a big spurt and I can see they're in need of extra. Occasionally I have one that demands daily waterings. Most of those demanding chemovars have produced around two ounces. With hempy you don't want them to dry out, like you do in soil. Put her on a schedule and stick to it, and she'll treat you well at harvest.

I have a Carnival nearing harvest. My signs are pistils changing and pulling back,

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trichomes are going cloudy,

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and she stopped taking water. Today it was 3/4 gallon in and 1/2 gallon out. Obviously done growing.

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Without the system I set up where I know exactly how much water I'm offering I wouldn't have noticed how much runoff there was and might have missed that sign. Next time I can cut back on the volume of water I offer her.
 
I have seen a few people start in solo's and then cut the bottoms off and then place them into a final pot. I am going to do that in the future because it would really give me a better run at the res in my 2.5 gallon buckets i have. In the past i just started in the buckets with root plug.
Hope this is what you were looking for.
Yep more or less! I started in a solo cup with both ladies normal drainage. I was a little concerned about going straight to the 3 gallon, and wanted to build more root mass to start. Both are in hempy now. One in a gal and the other in a much smaller hempy. Curious to see if there is any difference in growth from container size.

I also found if you also poke drainage holes half an inch to inch up from the bottom round the sides it's very easy to "connect the dots" cut off bottom And slit down the side the place into your new hole and slide the solo right out :)

Thanks for the response.

Time to get hempy with it!
 
Okay, so the amazonians dropped off my remaining suppiles today and I am ready with two seeds sprouted. How long or much shoiuld I soak the rock wool cubes and at what PH. I sort of need to get one seed planted tonight if possible as it decided to really go crazy with taproot growth and I need to get it planted soon. Thank you all for any quick replies as I don't want to lose my Berry Bomb auto.

Sorry, missed this. You've probably already planted. I'd go an hour on the Rockwool. That's what I used to always do. I don't know that pH matters here. No nutrients being fed.
 
I use H2O2 when I'm starting seeds but not in the actual hempy itself. I do, however, use an enzyme at points throughout my grows. Z7, AN Sensizym, Hygrozyme, PondZyme... Whatever may be laying around the lab at the time.
Were you thinking to use it as an oxygenator or as a preventative for the root ickies?

I've never had root ickies with any of my hempies.
 
Sorry, missed this. You've probably already planted. I'd go an hour on the Rockwool. That's what I used to always do. I don't know that pH matters here. No nutrients being fed.

Thanks for getting back to me. I soaked them for about 3 hours in 6.0 PH RO water. Placed on of my auto seeds in it and it's now in it's 3 gallon hempy bucket. I will try to keep it moist until it shows itself and then try to be patient as it gets to the reservoir. Thanks again.
 
I've never had root ickies with any of my hempies.
Okay yes I had the same question miss sue. I am noticing what I'm identifying as a p deficiency on both my hempy plants even though they look to be growing well and flourishing. The bottomost node is homley looking :/ and I am ashamed to admit I don't Ph I was in coco perlite mix to begin and now a 40 to 60 coco to perlite mix above res but using Ph perfect by an after cal mag-ing my distilled to 150. :breath: did you catch that? Help!
 
Ok everyone... starting to get a few issues in my Hempy plants
All the leaf issues look similar

Osmo+ nutes
pH RO water at 6.2, usually add calimag
Checked one runoff this am was 6.8ph and 890ppm

Late flower girl
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Younger girls around 35 days
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Any ideas???? Was thinking magnesium or potassium issues

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Ok everyone... starting to get a few issues in my Hempy plants
All the leaf issues look similar

Osmo+ nutes
pH RO water at 6.2, usually add calimag
Checked one runoff this am was 6.8ph and 890ppm

Late flower girl
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Younger girls around 35 days
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Any ideas???? Was thinking magnesium or potassium issues

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It could be that the pH is locking out any magnesium at that level. Most of deficiencies I see in my own grow and in others can probably be attributed to improper pH. For hempy I'd recommend getting that adjustment lower. Best to get that in a range of 5.8 to 6.3. Always adjust pH after adding anything. Sounds as if you might be adjusting the RO water then adding the cal-mag.

I usually don't let those older lower leaves determine if I have a problem. In my world I splash a lot and it can damage a leaf or two even if it's only water.

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It could be that the pH is locking out any magnesium at that level. Most of deficiencies I see in my own grow and in others can probably be attributed to improper pH. For hempy I'd recommend getting that adjustment lower. Best to get that in a range of 5.8 to 6.3. Always adjust pH after adding anything. Sounds as if you might be adjusting the RO water then adding the cal-mag.

I usually don't let those older lower leaves determine if I have a problem. In my world I splash a lot and it can damage a leaf or two even if it's only water.

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Thanks Jim

Ya I'm thinking water/pH also...they say ya can't over nute with Osmo+ and dosent seem like a nute caused issue

Just set up 5gal of ro water, added calimag, Gunn try to drop it to 5.8-5.9ph and kinda flush the reasivor in those buckets and see how they look in a few days
 
Thanks Jim

Ya I'm thinking water/pH also...they say ya can't over nute with Osmo+ and dosent seem like a nute caused issue

Just set up 5gal of ro water, added calimag, Gunn try to drop it to 5.8-5.9ph and kinda flush the reasivor in those buckets and see how they look in a few days

Maybe stop adding the Calimagic for awhile. Preventative nutrient use seems like it can also cause problems.

I had 4 plants in a row need epsom salts in mid flower (soil) and then never again for the next 20 harvests. If I had added epsom salts to the next few grows, I think I would have thrown them out of balance.
 
What's the consensus for watering schedule for hempy? I'm watering moderately every day but I think the roots have reached the res. Should I switch to every other day?
 
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