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First, one assumes that people water their plants... when those plants need to be watered, lol. If it works out to every three days, fine. If it's every two days, fine. As long as you don't wait too long to water a plant, or constantly water it too often. Personally, I (and, IMHO, cannabis plants) favor giving a plant an adequate amount of water when it needs it. But I've seen people mention giving not enough water, but doing so every single day... and they still seem to manage to harvest something. Cannabis in general is a pretty resilient species.

As to (what appears to be) "every two days was maybe a little too soon, and will the girls be able to get enough of the nutrients before I'm taking them away?" You're taking away nutrients from your plants, lol? Aren't you... adding nutrients back in? I don't think that plants are like people - if I'm eating a nice steak, and you attempt to take it away from me, it doesn't matter whether or not you've got a platter full of food to give me afterwards, because you'll still get at least a fork in the eye (and I might end up getting serious about it ;) ) for trying to grab my dead cow. But plants aren't like that. Hempy is just passive hydroponics, so you should be feeding with every watering (unless it's a "flush," and I won't go into that in this post). Assuming that you're watering to runoff, you're both adding in fresh nutrients and removing at least some portion of the waste products excreted by the roots and imbalanced nutrients caused by the plant uptaking more of some elements than others. It's comparable to changing the nutrient solution in a DWC reservoir, only not as "good." That's why a proper hempy-grown plant can outgrow a proper soil-grown one.

I'm just rambling. Take the above with a grain of salt and ask for corroborating (or dissenting, lol) opinions.

just my opinion. I think it is important for every plant to reach for water in order to grow the longest roots possible. So a good two to three day "dry out" ONCE the roots find the res is helpful as it promotes both vertical and horizontal root growth. I want as many roots as i can get so my girl can absorb more solution which is found mostly in the bottom of a hempy bucket. Whatever we want to call it i am a firm believer in waiting till my girls start to pray and my bucket feels light during the early veg stage before watering. Pre flower and flowering i am watering every day.
Old solution vs new, your plants take what they need and leave what they dont or cant take. Feed till you get a good pee and about 1/3 run off. I know my res hold 1.5 liters and most the time depending on where in the cycle i am, they will take the whole liter after 3 days and .5 after 2.
 
just my opinion. I think it is important for every plant to reach for water in order to grow the longest roots possible. So a good two to three day "dry out" ONCE the roots find the res is helpful as it promotes both vertical and horizontal root growth. I want as many roots as i can get so my girl can absorb more solution which is found mostly in the bottom of a hempy bucket. Whatever we want to call it i am a firm believer in waiting till my girls start to pray and my bucket feels light during the early veg stage before watering. Pre flower and flowering i am watering every day.
Old solution vs new, your plants take what they need and leave what they dont or cant take. Feed till you get a good pee and about 1/3 run off. I know my res hold 1.5 liters and most the time depending on where in the cycle i am, they will take the whole liter after 3 days and .5 after 2.

I didn't know this. Would this apply to a hempy using Osmocote + or a traditional nute mixture? I changed to a 12/12 light schedule a week ago.

I know I probably could not over water a hempy but should I move to a daily watering schedule? Would you think that a schedule that frequent would use up the Osmocote + ?
 
just my opinion. I think it is important for every plant to reach for water in order to grow the longest roots possible. So a good two to three day "dry out" ONCE the roots find the res is helpful as it promotes both vertical and horizontal root growth. I want as many roots as i can get so my girl can absorb more solution which is found mostly in the bottom of a hempy bucket. Whatever we want to call it i am a firm believer in waiting till my girls start to pray and my bucket feels light during the early veg stage before watering. Pre flower and flowering i am watering every day.

Basically the same reason I don't go in for placing "humidity domes" over cuttings, keeping the media constantly saturated with water, et cetera. Grow roots, not mold ;) .
 
just my opinion. I think it is important for every plant to reach for water in order to grow the longest roots possible. So a good two to three day "dry out" ONCE the roots find the res is helpful as it promotes both vertical and horizontal root growth. I want as many roots as i can get so my girl can absorb more solution which is found mostly in the bottom of a hempy bucket. Whatever we want to call it i am a firm believer in waiting till my girls start to pray and my bucket feels light during the early veg stage before watering. Pre flower and flowering i am watering every day.
Old solution vs new, your plants take what they need and leave what they dont or cant take. Feed till you get a good pee and about 1/3 run off. I know my res hold 1.5 liters and most the time depending on where in the cycle i am, they will take the whole liter after 3 days and .5 after 2.

Thank you for this Gauge. :hugs: I've been thinking about this lately, and I've noticed that I'm beginning to let them go light in veg, not exclusively in early veg. Mine seem to be responding positively to this.

I've also been giving thought to an occasional plain water, but I'm still working out how often that would be beneficial before it turns sour and creates nutrient deficiency. I'm getting up the courage to do a test plant with plain water every other time. I've tentatively started with my Devil's Carnival 1.1, and she looks no worse for wear, although it was only one cycle so far. Her next watering will be plain water. If I stay strong I'll continue the practice and we can see what develops.

My first hempy I watered with nutrients almost every day. She made it through my missteps and came out shining. I'm just looking at the lush garden I have going and in the back of my mind is the thought that cannabis does best in the potency department when you can keep them right on the edge. That might be better accomplished with nutrient feeding interspersed with plain watering, but I'm not entirely sure, and my experience in growing is only three years, not all of it as focused as it could have been.

Thoughts?

I'm headed out for my weekly walk with the girls. I'll check back later. :ciao:
 
I've also been giving thought to an occasional plain water, but I'm still working out how often that would be beneficial before it turns sour and creates nutrient deficiency.

I wouldn't do that in hempy (Osmocote Plus hempies, obviously, are different critters altogether), just like I wouldn't do so in a DWC hydroponics setup.

In soil... HtH does a plant growing outdoors in the ground get flushed, lol? Most people seem to think it's important. Some, however, have given the matter thought and still decided not to. I would guess that a lot of bud the latter produce is of the finest kind, lol. If you're supplying the plant what it needs, when it needs it - and no more - then why would you "flush" or switch to plain water? If the plant is still alive and still growing (or still FLOWERING) then it has to be using something, right? So I'd guess this thing is entirely situational in nature.

I did once come across some bud that was nearly fireproof, lol. IOW, you couldn't even keep a bowl lit that was being quickly passed back and forth amongst four people, let alone a joint that I was trying to smoke solo. Nasty, nasty, and did I mention nasty? I saw it sparking! And, of course, there was no "fine white ash" - it was dark gray, black, and... chunky. So, yes, some people seem to have issues :rolleyes3 .

Maybe a person is using a nutrient that doesn't allow them to adjust the various levels, perhaps a one-part where it's all or nothing in terms of which specific elements they're adding. Or maybe the follow the "keep adding more until you burn the sh!t out of your plants, then back it down one notch" strategy.

I will state (for the record, your honor ;) ) that when we visited, I thought your bud tasted just fine. No nasty and no fireworks. (Good buzz, too ;) .)

I've seen plenty of statements over the years that amounted to "I fed her, and she really took off!" They tell me that the respective plants were lacking nutrients. A plant shouldn't grow in spurts :icon_roll . Don't think of it like a person who eats one to three times per day, lol, think of it like a machine that gets constant use. A generator, maybe.

Those are my thoughts. You know what you're giving your plants - and you know what they then give you in return, lol. Let that be what helps you decide this question for YOU.

Er... I'm also not in favor of giving one's plants an extended dark period before harvest. I like to harvest immediately following a normal dark period. I just don't see any benefit, scientifically speaking. I know some disagree. It's difficult to have two successive grows that are IDENTICAL other than changing ONE variable, so it's hard to really determine these kinds of things beyond a shadow of a doubt. Even clones from the same mother are not likely to be 100% identical - and that's if they're taken at the same time, let alone if the cuttings were taken months apart. The genetics can be assumed to be the same, sure. But I think of it like when I used to race; that is to say, one tiny little difference off the line can mean a significant difference at the end of the ¼-mile. Additionally, one assumes that a grower will add to his/her knowledge base and experience more or less constantly. That's a BIG factor, IMHO. And, just like when I was racing, a person can do a thing and "feel like it helped" when in actuality it did no such thing. That seemed more likely to happen the more money the racer spent on the thing, LMFAO... If the person spent ten bucks and half an hour, and is asked if there was an improvement, their response might have been, "Eh... <SHRUGS>." But if they spent $1,400 and five days and were asked the same thing, it was not terribly uncommon to hear, "Well, I haven't been to a dyno or had it on the track yet - but <WHISTLES> I can sure feel the difference!" (The irony is that sometimes they "felt the difference" because it bogged, then accelerated, then sort of laid down, meaning they ended up slower - but they suddenly had a moment where they felt more acceleration (because they weren't accelerating like they had been).) That hobby could take over your life (and wallet!) even worse than growing cannabis can. But it was the most fun I'd ever had outside of a bedroom, lol. OtOH, cannabis isn't likely to see you end up 272 miles from home, in a parking lot, begging someone who knows how to both spot you a crank (plus a million other "little" things) and completely rebuild your engine for you after you pushed just a wee bit too hard and drove over parts of that engine. (And the phrase covering that is, "Welcome to the DotC club, ha ha ha!" (Driven over the Crank))

Cannabis - Cheaper than racing!

I'm headed out for my weekly walk with the girls.

Hey! Thanks for the humorous mental image of you going out and leading a bunch of cannabis plants around on leashes. I didn't expect to smile today. If I could draw, that would have provided the meat for a comic strip that I could have gotten into a cannabis publication for sure, lol.
 
I wouldn't do that in hempy (Osmocote Plus hempies, obviously, are different critters altogether), just like I wouldn't do so in a DWC hydroponics setup.

In soil... HtH does a plant growing outdoors in the ground get flushed, lol? Most people seem to think it's important. Some, however, have given the matter thought and still decided not to. I would guess that a lot of bud the latter produce is of the finest kind, lol. If you're supplying the plant what it needs, when it needs it - and no more - then why would you "flush" or switch to plain water? If the plant is still alive and still growing (or still FLOWERING) then it has to be using something, right? So I'd guess this thing is entirely situational in nature.

I did once come across some bud that was nearly fireproof, lol. IOW, you couldn't even keep a bowl lit that was being quickly passed back and forth amongst four people, let alone a joint that I was trying to smoke solo. Nasty, nasty, and did I mention nasty? I saw it sparking! And, of course, there was no "fine white ash" - it was dark gray, black, and... chunky. So, yes, some people seem to have issues :rolleyes3 .

Maybe a person is using a nutrient that doesn't allow them to adjust the various levels, perhaps a one-part where it's all or nothing in terms of which specific elements they're adding. Or maybe the follow the "keep adding more until you burn the sh!t out of your plants, then back it down one notch" strategy.

I will state (for the record, your honor ;) ) that when we visited, I thought your bud tasted just fine. No nasty and no fireworks. (Good buzz, too ;) .)

I've seen plenty of statements over the years that amounted to "I fed her, and she really took off!" They tell me that the respective plants were lacking nutrients. A plant shouldn't grow in spurts :icon_roll . Don't think of it like a person who eats one to three times per day, lol, think of it like a machine that gets constant use. A generator, maybe.

Those are my thoughts. You know what you're giving your plants - and you know what they then give you in return, lol. Let that be what helps you decide this question for YOU.

Er... I'm also not in favor of giving one's plants an extended dark period before harvest. I like to harvest immediately following a normal dark period. I just don't see any benefit, scientifically speaking. I know some disagree. It's difficult to have two successive grows that are IDENTICAL other than changing ONE variable, so it's hard to really determine these kinds of things beyond a shadow of a doubt. Even clones from the same mother are not likely to be 100% identical - and that's if they're taken at the same time, let alone if the cuttings were taken months apart. The genetics can be assumed to be the same, sure. But I think of it like when I used to race; that is to say, one tiny little difference off the line can mean a significant difference at the end of the ¼-mile. Additionally, one assumes that a grower will add to his/her knowledge base and experience more or less constantly. That's a BIG factor, IMHO. And, just like when I was racing, a person can do a thing and "feel like it helped" when in actuality it did no such thing. That seemed more likely to happen the more money the racer spent on the thing, LMFAO... If the person spent ten bucks and half an hour, and is asked if there was an improvement, their response might have been, "Eh... <SHRUGS>." But if they spent $1,400 and five days and were asked the same thing, it was not terribly uncommon to hear, "Well, I haven't been to a dyno or had it on the track yet - but <WHISTLES> I can sure feel the difference!" (The irony is that sometimes they "felt the difference" because it bogged, then accelerated, then sort of laid down, meaning they ended up slower - but they suddenly had a moment where they felt more acceleration (because they weren't accelerating like they had been).) That hobby could take over your life (and wallet!) even worse than growing cannabis can. But it was the most fun I'd ever had outside of a bedroom, lol. OtOH, cannabis isn't likely to see you end up 272 miles from home, in a parking lot, begging someone who knows how to both spot you a crank (plus a million other "little" things) and completely rebuild your engine for you after you pushed just a wee bit too hard and drove over parts of that engine. (And the phrase covering that is, "Welcome to the DotC club, ha ha ha!" (Driven over the Crank))

Cannabis - Cheaper than racing!



Hey! Thanks for the humorous mental image of you going out and leading a bunch of cannabis plants around on leashes. I didn't expect to smile today. If I could draw, that would have provided the meat for a comic strip that I could have gotten into a cannabis publication for sure, lol.

You make a compelling argument TS. I'll rethink the compulsion to starve my hempy girls. And how happy does it make me to know I managed to pull you to a smile. :battingeyelashes: :Love:
 
Hey! Thanks for the humorous mental image of you going out and leading a bunch of cannabis plants around on leashes. I didn't expect to smile today. If I could draw, that would have provided the meat for a comic strip that I could have gotten into a cannabis publication for sure, lol.

I can draw. It's Sue taking Carnival for a stroll. :)
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I didn't know this. Would this apply to a hempy using Osmocote + or a traditional nute mixture? I changed to a 12/12 light schedule a week ago.

I know I probably could not over water a hempy but should I move to a daily watering schedule? Would you think that a schedule that frequent would use up the Osmocote + ?

I use RX Green Solutions. A two part synthetic nute. I dont know Chit about osmo+. Daily during flower is maintenance. I fill until i see the water in the hole. Every third i make it pee.
 
I use RX Green Solutions. A two part synthetic nute. I dont know Chit about osmo+. Daily during flower is maintenance. I fill until i see the water in the hole. Every third i make it pee.

Thanks for the help. I run Foxfarm trio for soil and have the Grow Big in hydro so I can give the hempies anything they might need if I were to see any deficiencies. I took the hempies to the sink this morning to flood everything well. Based on weight of the pots I'll keep the largest (cut from a one gallon vinegar jug) on a 2 day schedule and I'll top off the smaller ones each day.

I gave them all the smell test at the drain this morning and noted nothing out of the ordinary. They seem to be doing ok through the stretch here.

Flip + 8 days

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Thanks for the help. I run Foxfarm trio for soil and have the Grow Big in hydro so I can give the hempies anything they might need if I were to see any deficiencies. I took the hempies to the sink this morning to flood everything well. Based on weight of the pots I'll keep the largest (cut from a one gallon vinegar jug) on a 2 day schedule and I'll top off the smaller ones each day.

I gave them all the smell test at the drain this morning and noted nothing out of the ordinary. They seem to be doing ok through the stretch here.

Flip + 8 days

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What are those little pots??
 
hey guys the hempire over here is looking really good every1s girls seem to be doing great just wanted to throw this up this is one of my devils carnival i have going and i started the cal-mag the other day and 2day i noticed the leave has some wierd burning like shit going on do u think it cud be from the first watering i did where i ph to high and set it at 7.0 or is it maybe the cal-mag am i maybe using to much even tho im doing less then it says to use?? here she is both pics r the same girl jus different lighting to help u see the issue at hand better or i guess it would it be the issue at leaf haha

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