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[MrSauga]

Hi everyone,
@farside05 provided some great insight regarding the MC and Calmag. I had the same issues and was using Calmag to try and clear it up. What we theorized was that, in my case, my K levels were so high in flower that it was locking the Ca out. I was adding a product from AN called Sweet Candy with a K of 16. With the amount of MC I was adding, I had a ratio of about 1:3 N to K, which apparently is a no-no.
Now, I still don't understand it all and it's going to take some testing to see the results, but I am no longer using Calmag, dropped the SC, and increased the MC and things seem to working well like that.

The thread starts somewhere here if you are interested. Silly stuff in between but you can pick your way back and forth to get the details.
Sauga's Ride On The Pineapple Express

 

[Buck5050]

Foto dump friday. Day 28 in the tent.

 

[bluter]

looks fantastic buck

 

[Tead]

Do you think we should be in the hydro section guys? It never occurred to me, to be honest. It’d be a simple matter to get it moved.

I've always felt that there should be a 'passive hydro' sub-group under the main hydro one. Hempy could fit well there.

must say, when i went lookin for hempy threads, that was the first place i looked,, hydro forum,, and,, well, no subsection for hempy,, made me sad

might i add as well how even with subsections and sub sub sections, it is still extremely difficult to nail down specific information on topics at the best of times. from lighting to hempies to ph to life itself

everything so scattered,, i have the darndest times,, and get extremely sad,,

Well said.

 

[SweetSue]

from lighting to hempies to ph to life itself

everything so scattered,, i have the darndest times,, and get extremely sad,,

nivek..... that's why we encourage asking questions. It's nearly impossible to keep it all organized. Believe me, I've tried.

 

[SweetSue]

Hi everyone,
@farside05 provided some great insight regarding the MC and Calmag. I had the same issues and was using Calmag to try and clear it up. What we theorized was that, in my case, my K levels were so high in flower that it was locking the Ca out. I was adding a product from AN called Sweet Candy with a K of 16. With the amount of MC I was adding, I had a ratio of about 1:3 N to K, which apparently is a no-no.
Now, I still don't understand it all and it's going to take some testing to see the results, but I am no longer using Calmag, dropped the SC, and increased the MC and things seem to working well like that.

The thread starts somewhere here if you are interested. Silly stuff in between but you can pick your way back and forth to get the details.
Sauga's Ride On The Pineapple Express

Thank you for that. Good food for thought.

Buck....it looks like this grow is working well for you. Your exciting photos are a highlight of the week.

 

[Barney86]

Hi everyone, this is a busy thread eh I've got some hybrid hempys on just now too. I'll get some pics up later today. My first attempt at the hempys and it's going well. I'm cheating though and got air stones in the res bit and the middle of the pot. Great way to grow though, Its kicking the fabric pots arse all over the place.

 

[Tead]

I'm cheating though and got air stones in the res bit and the middle of the pot.

I did some experimentation with airstones in the pot. In the end, I was unable to differentiate the airstone plants from the regular ones so I moved on to other pastures.
No problems or anything tho. Kinda hard to clean the roots outta the airstone after the grow.
I wish you more productive results, and a hardy 'Welcome along!'.

 

[Barney86]

I did some experimentation with airstones in the pot. In the end, I was unable to differentiate the airstone plants from the regular ones so I moved on to other pastures.
No problems or anything tho. Kinda hard to clean the roots outta the airstone after the grow.
I wish you more productive results, and a hardy 'Welcome along!'.

Thanks buddy. Must say folks round here are well friendly. Been on most of the forums at some point and they tend to be full of aggressive know it alls but been here a week now and not a bad word to say.
Not gonna start a journal for a few weeks till I start my next run but I'll get my current stuff up in here till then. Seems like the right place and hopefully meet some like minded people.

 

[ZebSoames]

Thanks buddy. Must say folks round here are well friendly. Been on most of the forums at some point and they tend to be full of aggressive know it alls but been here a week now and not a bad word to say.
Not gonna start a journal for a few weeks till I start my next run but I'll get my current stuff up in here till then. Seems like the right place and hopefully meet some like minded people.

This place is great.

I'll read other forums but 420mag is the only place I will post.

 

[nivek]

nivek..... that's why we encourage asking questions. It's nearly impossible to keep it all organized. Believe me, I've tried.

cheers Sue,, i hear ya,, not a new issue, indeed.

dealing with this is near the biggest stress issue in my life right now,, besides finishing this darn painting.

i have no problem asking q's but also have no problem,even prefer, finding the pertinent info myself as well. main reason being is when i want to know something, i wanna know it now damn it

ok,, this then,, has had me wondering

the ph for hempies

seems to me hempy is so called, i read this, 'passive hydro', or similar,, and ph for this kinda hydro is about 5.6 - 6, give or take ,,

then i read that a lotto folks don't even worry about ph in hempies, and that is one of the benefits of hempy,, no need to worry about ph so much

well,, who has water , besides the osmosis folks i guess,, who has water out the taps at ph 5.6 - 6 ??

i don't, and mine varies as well, some.

so how can i not be concerned about ph??

 

[TorturedSoul]

must say, when i went lookin for hempy threads, that was the first place i looked,, hydro forum,, and,, well, no subsection for hempy,, made me sad

It would be nice to see a passive hydroponic sub-forum (IMHO). Hempy, wicking from bottom reservoir, et cetera can have some additional challenges.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

cheers Sue,, i hear ya,, not a new issue, indeed.

dealing with this is near the biggest stress issue in my life right now,, besides finishing this darn painting.

i have no problem asking q's but also have no problem,even prefer, finding the pertinent info myself as well. main reason being is when i want to know something, i wanna know it now damn it

ok,, this then,, has had me wondering

the ph for hempies

seems to me hempy is so called, i read this, 'passive hydro', or similar,, and ph for this kinda hydro is about 5.6 - 6, give or take ,,

then i read that a lotto folks don't even worry about ph in hempies, and that is one of the benefits of hempy,, no need to worry about ph so much

well,, who has water , besides the osmosis folks i guess,, who has water out the taps at ph 5.6 - 6 ??

i don't, and mine varies as well, some.

so how can i not be concerned about ph??

I pH everything, but that's me

Some don't and good for them

Tap water, with full nutes, can still be pretty high in pH, my RO usually, after full nutes, lands around 5.6-5.9 so is usually spot on

So pick a direction and go for it, no right or wrong answer

 

[SweetSue]

cheers Sue,, i hear ya,, not a new issue, indeed.

dealing with this is near the biggest stress issue in my life right now,, besides finishing this darn painting.

i have no problem asking q's but also have no problem,even prefer, finding the pertinent info myself as well. main reason being is when i want to know something, i wanna know it now damn it

ok,, this then,, has had me wondering

the ph for hempies

seems to me hempy is so called, i read this, 'passive hydro', or similar,, and ph for this kinda hydro is about 5.6 - 6, give or take ,,

then i read that a lotto folks don't even worry about ph in hempies, and that is one of the benefits of hempy,, no need to worry about ph so much

well,, who has water , besides the osmosis folks i guess,, who has water out the taps at ph 5.6 - 6 ??

i don't, and mine varies as well, some.

so how can i not be concerned about ph??

One of the things that attracted me to hempy was the possibility of setting aside pH adjusting. I'll be honest and admit that I use RX Green Technologies, which recommends you avoid pH adjusting, but I'm shifting to Mega Crop 2.0 and I won't be making any adjustments from the beginning, to see if this holds true. I'll report back on any changes or concerns.

I've found it to be more important to pay attention to cal/mg issues with LEDs and hempy than the pH adjusting.

Brix and I are using RO water, which does give us close to the range hempy appreciates, and I don't doubt that's playing into my success. I lack the space here at the moment to try one with unadjusted tap water, or I would. I'm pretty sure @DrDoob isnt adjusting for pH either and I believe he's using tap water.

 

[SweetSue]

I'm not suggesting anyone stop pH adjusting. I'm only suggesting it may be worth it to try one without and see what happens. You may be plesantly surprised.

 

[Ganjagrowergu]

I attempted to avoid chasing ph. It didnt work with Maxibloom, ended up with sickly under-fed girls. I adjusted ph and within a couple days vigor was restored.

I'm running 50/50 Maxibloom and Mega-Crop right now. I still ph down to 5.5, girls are so happy that I think I will let others take the risks. Since I made the full transition to this nutrient blend in my tent, all of my plants are healthy. Never before have I had this many different cultivars reacting well to one size fits all feedings.

 

[bluter]

the water here is bad enough that RO is recommended for every grow style, very few try it without the RO. cal-mag and ph adjusting is simply standard as a result.

my RO ph will rapidly rise to ph neutral (7) if left on it's own and exposed to air. it pulls stuff from the air, changing the ph as it does. my RO typically hits a ph of 7 within 3 - 4 hrs after filter if uncovered. takes a little longer if the water is in a capped bottle. i use water cooler style bottles and cap them to slow the process. my RO ppm also rises from about 5 ppm to 7 ppm at the same time the ph comes up.

 

[SweetSue]

the water here is bad enough that RO is recommended for every grow style, very few try it without the RO. cal-mag and ph adjusting is simply standard as a result.

my RO ph will rapidly rise to ph neutral (7) if left on it's own and exposed to air. it pulls stuff from the air, changing the ph as it does. my RO typically hits a ph of 7 within 3 - 4 hrs after filter if uncovered. takes a little longer if the water is in a capped bottle. i use water cooler style bottles and cap them to slow the process. my RO ppm also rises from about 5 ppm to 7 ppm at the same time the ph comes up.

Interesting... I haven’t checked drift, to be honest. Hmmm.... considering what I have to risk.... I’ll give it a go without checking for a time. If it’s a problem it’ll show itself as such before long, and then I’ll know how it effects my garden. Thankfully, I have some cushion of stocks in the jars.

The local water’s undrinkable for me, so RO is the logical choice. When I shift to my apartment I may have to go back to distilling water.

 

[bluter]

i should mention i try to find a balance with the RO, nutes, and cal-mag to hit a target ph and ppm. i use very little buffer. when i have stuff dialed in i don't use any at all, and my ph is right in the 5.7 - 5.8 range. it isn't always doable tho.

 

[Buck5050]

The tube update. Went out to water today and found a interesting development. The tubed clones have been in flower for 8 days and in the tubes for 15.