I do have ten clones... So...i'm positive that's more mains than my whole 5 plant jungle grow
excellent.... i got 12 clones i wanna try stuff in the jungle room next. went with 9 of the black indica. i only got one cbdream tho. and i gave all the best ones away. i prolly shoulda kept more going. 2 of the white cookies. not sure what i was thinking there.
i topped 4 in the current grow, and the other was a clone that sorta had a smaller branch that could've been a main but no luck.
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You were thinking how much someone else would benefit from the gift.
The universe is known to reward that type of generosity with things that’ll surprise and delight you. I’d keep my eyes open for that. 
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the latin based technical horticultural term is blindassluckulus
to be honest the short answer is i balance the ph with cal-mag. nutes first, then cal-mag.
Hey..... I resemble that term.
I always add Cal/Mg first and then nutes. Does it really make a difference what gets added first?
DrDoob
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Don’t know about calmag but it definitely did when I was using silica, if I didnt do the silica first I got slimely things floating around.
Kismet
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Roger That! 
Kismet
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Have been transitioning over from coco to hempy buckets lately. Down to two coco girls mid flower. 4 hempy buckets and a solo hempy clone. Fungus gnats were harshing in on my grow this fall and killed some babies. Swear i still see one every couple of weeks even now with fans blowing like crazy. Man they annoyed me.
Hey..... I resemble that term.
I always add Cal/Mg first and then nutes. Does it really make a difference what gets added first?
cal-mag has a tendency to drop ph. i like to add it last as a result. if i've balanced the rest of the nutes to the amount of RO, i can use the cal-mag to get me to a reasonable ph.
as for whether it's best first or last, it all gets mixed in the same bucket.
Kismet
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Been running cal mag veg and heavier flower and have noticed when i get heavy handed on the ph down ooops like 4 or something hahaha
Kismet
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Good idea to add the cal mag last and check ph before down.
Ganjagrowergu
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I haven't once added a ca/mg supplement since switching to hempy. I can think of a few plants that may have needed it in the past, but pushed them through to maturity nonetheless. I used 1tsp/ga Maxibloom. Those plants also lacked nitrogen so the deficiencies could have just been compounding with that and a couple of long winded ph snafus.
I weaned my plants, and myself it seems, down to a 1/2tsp of Maxibloom and up to a 1/2tsp of Mega-Crop. I am ph'ing down to 5.5 with 3 capfulls of distilled white vinegar. I keep inspecting my plants, expecting something to show up and they look just fine. A few burnt tips on the more mature gals, but I figure that might be from the chlorine in my water or possibly just means they are getting plenty to eat.
Mega-Crop has my vote, and these lava rock hempys are legit. I will be sure to share root porn in 4-6 weeks.
Sorry about that ramble. Here is a peace offering
Devil's Pitchfork = Punto Rojo x Unknown Swami genetics x DDA
Trailer Trash Betty = AK-47 origins bred mostly for males even though I used one as a mother in this instance to no apparent ill effect.
I weaned my plants, and myself it seems, down to a 1/2tsp of Maxibloom and up to a 1/2tsp of Mega-Crop. I am ph'ing down to 5.5 with 3 capfulls of distilled white vinegar. I keep inspecting my plants, expecting something to show up and they look just fine. A few burnt tips on the more mature gals, but I figure that might be from the chlorine in my water or possibly just means they are getting plenty to eat.
Mega-Crop has my vote, and these lava rock hempys are legit. I will be sure to share root porn in 4-6 weeks.Sorry about that ramble. Here is a peace offering
Devil's Pitchfork = Punto Rojo x Unknown Swami genetics x DDA
Trailer Trash Betty = AK-47 origins bred mostly for males even though I used one as a mother in this instance to no apparent ill effect.
Ya know... I've been seeing lots of banter lately about CalMag and it's use with various feeding regimes.
I worry sometimes that folks following along can get very confused by all this banter and I feel the need to toss some clarifying words into the mix.
Generally most hydroponic growers (Hempy = passive, drain to waste hydroponics) will need to supplement CalMag.
In any garden, there are many variables that drive this. Water quality is number 1 on that list with nutrient line coming in a close 2nd, but the list is actually quite long including such esoteric things as lighting types (somehow, led lighting vs HID seems to matter?!?!).
In my garden, I get the rust spots without my 5ml/gal additons of CalMag. Obviously your mileage will vary.
I worry sometimes that folks following along can get very confused by all this banter and I feel the need to toss some clarifying words into the mix.
Generally most hydroponic growers (Hempy = passive, drain to waste hydroponics) will need to supplement CalMag.
In any garden, there are many variables that drive this. Water quality is number 1 on that list with nutrient line coming in a close 2nd, but the list is actually quite long including such esoteric things as lighting types (somehow, led lighting vs HID seems to matter?!?!).
In my garden, I get the rust spots without my 5ml/gal additons of CalMag. Obviously your mileage will vary.
led based lighting has a tendency to pull cal-mag out as well. have no idea why or how it does it. i know people who have switched to cob or quantum with regular soil grows, and they report having a greater need to supplement cal-mag.
to be clear, none were organic soil, there was little or no nutrients in the soil to start. living/organic media probably have less of an issue.
with hempy i've definitely needed to supplement cal-mag pretty much all the way through, but that's just my personal experience.
to be clear, none were organic soil, there was little or no nutrients in the soil to start. living/organic media probably have less of an issue.
with hempy i've definitely needed to supplement cal-mag pretty much all the way through, but that's just my personal experience.
I concur.
Isn't it just the craziest thing?!?! I've been watching it play out over the years. I think we're gonna need a real biologist to 'splain that one to us. Wacky!
Yeah, I'm not saying you're wrong about the LED lights pulling cal-mag from the soil but wouldn't mind a scientific explanation of how exactly that works.
it can. Adding the calcium and magnesium first makes it less likely that you'll end up with some precipitate in your reservoir (or nutrient mixing jug, I suppose). But getting precipitate is not a given (tends to depend on pH, ratios/quantities of the elements making up your nutrients and, one assumes, how they are chelated).
The good news, lol, is that you're doing it right - you're supposed to add it first. Unless you also add silicon, then add that before the Ca/Mg supplement(s).
I don't remember the specifics of what makes precipitates more likely. If one is unsure of whether they're creating any, pouring their "ready to use" mix through a coffee filter might allow them to spot precipitates, after the filter is dry. I don't know.
Again, silicon is always #1, but after that...
Moose_Hunter10 said:
heya friends,,
most interesting reading all this about cal/mag. might just be my issue,,
this wee one is a blueberry,, my last hope of keeping this strain going , i have been cloning it for three years or so
this was taken out of soil in a solo cup, soil mostly cleaned away and repotted in perlite, roots just reaching the reservoir i think,, eleven days ago.
i have been checking and changing moist of the water daily,, checking ph,, trying to keep it down below six.
i have been refilling daily but not onto the root mass, as i learned that is a great way to kill a plant,, water its root ball every day,, not good niv
so the plant is not dead,, but obviously not at all happy
same with this one,, this one about eight or nine days into the exact same as the blueberry,, this a lemon haze cross
poor thing,, i feel bad for it,,
not dead but every bit an introvert,, like dad
i thot the hole idea of ph'ing to the high fives was to allow the absorption of cal/mag already there,, sure has been what i learned in the school of 420mag.
so,, i see no signs of a return to health for these plants, a slow decay, and a lotto work.
and, i have two seeds that are my first ever grown in a rockwool cube, small one,, i had it so i used it,, and perlite,,
bad pic,, but sprout is there, in a small cube, and a mini hempy pot,, so cute
i know most dont recommend this method for starting hempies, but it was what i had and what i used, all an experiment of sorts,, no crucial seeds and these plants are outside my perpetual crew,,
tho the blueberry and lemon haze are part of my cycle. no pressure
so,, i guess i will treat this sprout like a regular hempy and kill it,, or perhaps i can learn some better technique from y'all
cheers friends,,
most interesting reading all this about cal/mag. might just be my issue,,
this wee one is a blueberry,, my last hope of keeping this strain going , i have been cloning it for three years or so
this was taken out of soil in a solo cup, soil mostly cleaned away and repotted in perlite, roots just reaching the reservoir i think,, eleven days ago.
i have been checking and changing moist of the water daily,, checking ph,, trying to keep it down below six.
i have been refilling daily but not onto the root mass, as i learned that is a great way to kill a plant,, water its root ball every day,, not good niv
so the plant is not dead,, but obviously not at all happy
same with this one,, this one about eight or nine days into the exact same as the blueberry,, this a lemon haze cross
poor thing,, i feel bad for it,,
not dead but every bit an introvert,, like dad
i thot the hole idea of ph'ing to the high fives was to allow the absorption of cal/mag already there,, sure has been what i learned in the school of 420mag.
so,, i see no signs of a return to health for these plants, a slow decay, and a lotto work.
and, i have two seeds that are my first ever grown in a rockwool cube, small one,, i had it so i used it,, and perlite,,
bad pic,, but sprout is there, in a small cube, and a mini hempy pot,, so cute
i know most dont recommend this method for starting hempies, but it was what i had and what i used, all an experiment of sorts,, no crucial seeds and these plants are outside my perpetual crew,,
tho the blueberry and lemon haze are part of my cycle. no pressure
so,, i guess i will treat this sprout like a regular hempy and kill it,, or perhaps i can learn some better technique from y'all
cheers friends,,